Wow, Arian race?? Tall, blonde, blue eyed? Blonde hair and blue eyes are
caused by "resesive" gens.. Hardly superior.. And The arian agenda in the
30's and 40's was championed by a short, brown-haired, brown eyed Austian
who was 1/8 jewish.
Wow.. facts can be interesting..
actually greek and heretical
arf meow arf - nsa fodder - not just jenine
al qaeda terrorism nuclear bomb iran taliban big brother
if you meet buddha on the usenet killfile him
No offense but, you know, repeating a racist hate mongering being's words in
order to make a point you feel like saying just does them a favor by getting
it in front of another group of people who might read it, based on who it's
from. By repeating their tripe, you tend to lend credence to it, whether
that's what you meant to do or not. The Newsline is plenty enough for
anyone who actually wants to read such sickening tripe.
If you must do things like that, at least remove the manure, and
hopefully also mark it as OT (off topic) since it is by a long shot, and add
an x-no archive tag as I've done. You are now perpetually tied to that
racist crap via Google's newsgroup records and your words, along with the
racists, are there for the world to see for, most likely, as long as Google
shall live.
Where does " "resesive" gens " come from? Is that something you found on
their site? If you followed any of those links I feel for you.
Regards,
Pop`
Wonder what happens when someone tells this loser that Iraqis are Aryan.
That last is not true. Hitler was not 1/8 Jewish. As far as historians can
trace, Hitler had no Jewish ancestors. IIRC, the claims that he was part
Jewish come from the fact that his grandmother became pregnant while working
as a maid for a Jewish family. However, no one in the family fathered her
child.
> Wow.. facts can be interesting..
--
nimue
"Let your freak-flag fly, and if someone doesn't get you, move on."
Drew Barrymore
> If you must do things like that, at least remove the manure, and
> hopefully also mark it as OT (off topic) since it is by a long shot, and add
> an x-no archive tag as I've done. You are now perpetually tied to that
> racist crap via Google's newsgroup records and your words, along with the
> racists, are there for the world to see for, most likely, as long as Google
> shall live.
I don't think that no-archive tag is working as you suspect.
While you did include a few keywords, your post was still added to archive:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.vb.general.discussion/msg/09d418fc874fe9cc?hl=en&
LFS
"Pop`" <nod...@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
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>> And The arian
> > agenda in the 30's and 40's was championed by a short, brown-haired,
> > brown eyed Austian who was 1/8 jewish.
>
> That last is not true. Hitler was not 1/8 Jewish. As far as historians
can
> trace, Hitler had no Jewish ancestors. IIRC, the claims that he was part
> Jewish come from the fact that his grandmother became pregnant while
working
> as a maid for a Jewish family. However, no one in the family fathered her
> child.
>
[SNIP]
The irony is that Judaism is a major world religion and not a race! I wonder
how many of Hitler's "Jews" were Atheists, Agnostics, Baha'is, Catholics,
Protestants, etc. only sharing a familial tie or crude Semitic resemblance?
It is mind-boggling how ignorant a people can be when so collectively angry
that they need a shared "enemy" just to cooperate with eachother, or so
desperate to raise money for a "cause" that they'll consider anything...
With fascists, I think the issue is neither religion nor race, but minority
exploitation. If Mussolini's take on fascism is anything to go by (complete
suppression of individualism for the benefit of society), fascism is centred
around the idea more recently expressed as "the good of the many outweigh
the good of the few" in absence of classifying good into "rights", "needs",
"wants", "whims", etc. This seems to result in the wealthiest minority being
the first to be targeted for robbery and mass murder.
Only this kind of economy is not sustainable because the fascists
effectively butcher and cook the magic goose after stealing the last golden
egg and so they must pillage the next wealthiest minority - and on and on it
goes until viable minority groups are thin on the ground and the fascists
are forced by their own economic mechanism of robbery, to invade another
country to keep the dollars rolling in. Never mind the crap about the glory
of battling it out for the father/mother/holy land. War and persecution boil
down to crude robber baron economics, regardless of the "cause" cited as
justification.
In the case of Hitler I believe that his physical attributes alone would
have made him a "Jew" in the eye's of his fellow Nazis had he not been
"great leader" & that had Hitler not been "great leader" I believe he too
would have been stripped of assets and shipped off to a death camp. It is
well known that this was the nature of Nazi law. If memory serves; in the
event that a familial relationship could not be established with a target
minority, physical characteristics of the individual were examined in minute
detail for evidence of that target minority. It takes a lot of money to
build a vast cutting edge army.
This has been said so often before that what you are about to read from me
is but cheap cliché...
The lesson of fascism and fundamentalism is simple; Beliefs centred on
personal integrity are fine, but "causes" cited for the purpose of
re-engineering society not in it's own image but in the image dictated or
otherwise suggested by an individual entity (person, organisation, or
corporation) not being the whole of that society, are always fraught with
danger:
1. to the sanctity of human life & rights as upheld by any legitimate
community
2. to individual lives and livelihoods through no fault of their own
3. to the personal integrity of individuals - what some would call the soul.
...Cliché or no, communities cannot afford to forget that more than 60
million human beings including 6 million "Jews", and 5 million people from
other minority groups were murdered during WWII at the hands of persons
acting for a "cause" over and above their own personal integrity.
Never sacrifice your personal integrity for a cause,
no matter how "good" or "great" it claims to be...
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actually they are sort of both
they are tribe somewhat maintaining its own culture
and a degree of genetic isolation within larger populations
not isolated enough to be a subspecies
but neither are they are completely integreated
chinese in asian countries outside of china
also maintain some cultural and genetic isolation within larger population
> how many of Hitler's "Jews" were Atheists, Agnostics, Baha'is, Catholics,
> Protestants, etc. only sharing a familial tie or crude Semitic resemblance?
religions like christianity or buddhism ceased to be tribal religions
(just like english or spanish ceased to be language of one culture)
so they are no longer markers of anything but themsleves
> It is mind-boggling how ignorant a people can be when so collectively angry
> that they need a shared "enemy" just to cooperate with eachother, or so
> desperate to raise money for a "cause" that they'll consider anything...
it is quite common for politicians to create an enemy to scare people
and then present themselves as saviors from these enemies
in the usa think injuns red scare commies narcoterrorists homos
illegal aliens (which are always only mexicans) islamists terrorists
etc
> With fascists, I think the issue is neither religion nor race, but minority
> exploitation. If Mussolini's take on fascism is anything to go by (complete
it has been done by many many politicians in many many countries
> Only this kind of economy is not sustainable because the fascists
> effectively butcher and cook the magic goose after stealing the last golden
> egg and so they must pillage the next wealthiest minority - and on and on it
its not done for economic reasons - the gain is miniscule
its done to control population
scare the shit out of them
panic them
then open a gate for them to stampede throughout
too panic stricken to look or think or realize its into an abattoir
think usa 2004 elections
shrubs entire campaign was that if a democrat was elected
terrorists would run rampant in the usa killing thousands
and he was aided by timely threat from al qaeda in october
two years later nothing significant has changed
except the panic in the popilation subsided
and today people wouldnt elect him to dog catcher
friends of george have gotten incredibly rich in the last six years
not by robbing moslems or mexicans
but by having control they have been able to funnel most business profits
into their own pockets instead sharing them with a larger population
thats been more worried about being bombed
than whether their children have health care
> In the case of Hitler I believe that his physical attributes alone would
> have made him a "Jew" in the eye's of his fellow Nazis had he not been
> "great leader" & that had Hitler not been "great leader" I believe he too
actually people who start these campaigns
are always sure to include clear definite markers to discriminate on
in germany they used clearly documented genealogies
(reagardless of whether the genealogies had anything to do with reality)
that way the general populaton does not worry about being a target
and they can clearly identify who is the target
if its obvious who is looks jewish
you would not need yellow stars as a marker
currently in the usa we are supposed to be panicing over -illegal aliens-
so how do you identify one?
americans are so heterogenous theres no clear physical marker
what politicians have siezed upon is langugage
many parts of the countries until recently were english only
so now if someone speaks spanish they must be mexican and they must be illegal
so listen to people talk about illegal aliens and how dangerous they are
and you will hear this goes in lockstep with complaints about using spanish
> The lesson of fascism and fundamentalism is simple; Beliefs centred on
> personal integrity are fine, but "causes" cited for the purpose of
actually its not about -fundamentalism- christian or moslem
atheists as atheists piled impressive body counts in the cultural revolution
what happens is a politician frequently needs
to convince people to act against their own rational best self interests
so they look for an emotional trigger
to get people in an emotional state where they are no longer rational
and they can be convinced to act against their own best interests
(panicing people into a directed stampede is one form of this)
for example study wars fought by nations
a truly defensive war can be in rational best self interest
because even if the individual dies their genes and cultures can survive
but since soldiers stopped getting booty
theres little profit in the risk to individual soldiers in offensive war
so instead young men have to be fed some line of bullshit
to get them to do something stupid like join the army
and die miserably for the profit of neither themselves nor their families
but for the profit of people already rich and safe from danger
so thats when manipulating emotional triggers becomes important
many states devote considerable resources embedding triggers in chldren
telling them about the motherland the fatherland the workers of the world
mom and apple pie the collective unconsciousness etc
saluting flags or drilling on playgrounds or wearing red kercheifs etc
then when the time comes pull the trigger
get the young men hot and angry and turn off self-preservation
and the young women bouncing their breasts promising mating opportunities
and you can get an army ready to die for nothing for themselves
just the power and profit of small economic elite
examine past wars and their propaganda
and also examine the lasting impact of the wars
most wars solve nothing and are forgotten within a generation
even though each war is presented as the final armageddon
between civilization (our side) and the forces of hell itself (their side)
> ...Cliché or no, communities cannot afford to forget that more than 60
> million human beings including 6 million "Jews", and 5 million people from
> other minority groups were murdered during WWII at the hands of persons
> acting for a "cause" over and above their own personal integrity.
germans were able to apply industrial revolution techniques
to a time honored tradition
so the numbers were unusually high
(as were those of the ussr with its own industrialized pogroms)
but otherwise the concept is older than carthage
axes are more labor intensive so the rwandan massacre was smaller
but that was due to technique not intent
People can be ethnically Jewish without being religious. People can be
religiously Jewish without being ethnically Jewish. My sorta-girlfriend
when I was 13 was tallish, blonde, blue-eyed and Jewish. And gorgeous.
And I was too much of a dork to make the first move. Pardon whilst I go
kick myself in the head for a while.
Fact is you guys are just like the KKK pussies I dealt with in bama'.
Bunch of cowardly little circle jerkers, sititng around telling
stories of things you wish you had the balls to do, hiding behind rags
made of your womens skirts.. Bunch of pussies, why don't you just go
away.
Yes, it will be there for a short period of time; you have to read the
policies on it to understand it all. Check a week from now and it'll be
gone; so, the posting is only temporary at Google and it won't hit the
archives themselves.
Not all archivers honor the no-archive tag though; so it only catches the
big boys as a rule. It's no guarantee, but it's a good way to let others
know that there isn't anything relevant to the subject at hand, esp when
added to the OT in the subject, and it helps prevent bloating of the
archives with unnecessary posts.
If you look up the tag at Wikipedia, you'll see talk about the history of
the tag and what it was for, but times have changed.
Mostly, it's just considered good netiquette and it helps keep the better
archives from being stuffed with so much "junk".
Regards,
Pop`
I have not cross posted it. Nor have I multi-posted it. You must mean
someone else.
How to Post to more than one group:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting
Pop`
My point was that your tag did NOT show as a tag, but as a keyword:
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Not being grouped with the other X- tags, it may not be honored,
but a check in a week from now will help to clarify if that works...
LFS
>
> I have not cross posted it.
You just killed all potential for future help from me.
I suspect I'm not the only one. Probably not even the only MVP.
Bob
--
Ummm...maybe he just didn't clue in that he was cross-posting it? Or got
confused between cross-posting and multi-posting? Don't be so harsh, Bob.
Rob
Kindly cite the post on this group where I crossposted? I feel pretty
sure you cannot, but if I'm wrong, I'll certainly fess up to it.
I know for a fact I did not crosspost what you referred to: You must have
lost track of who was talking to whom.
Also I'd like to know your problem with cross posting: Would you rather
see things multi-posted? I think not.
Unless you have a citation for the crosspost you claim I made, I have
nothing further to discuss with you as this comes off as a closed-mind and
childish on your end; I don't perpetuate OT silliness.
As for the childishly stated loss of your help, what did you think I'd do,
wail and whine? You need to learn that NO person in indispensible, on top
of a few interpersonal skills you're missing, IMO.
After your little tantrum here I'd look at whatever you said with a wary
eye anyway unless verification came along with it.
Regards,
Pop`
Aha, I see where you're coming from. I know it used to work, but I agree
I'll be checking on it too, just for grins. At one time, not sure it's
still so, Google would even honor it if it was the first line in the body of
a mail. I haven't read their policies et al in quite awhile.
Regards,
Pop`
--
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MS MVP, Visual Basic
http://vbnet.mvps.org/
Please respond to the newsgroups so all can benefit.
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Regards,
Pop`
Randy Birch wrote:
> The original post was sent to multiple groups. You replied to all,
> hence contributed to the cross-posting.
>
>
> "Pop`" <nod...@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:93%Ci.6168$kI5.3928@trnddc08...
> Bob O`Bob wrote:
>> Pop` wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have not cross posted it.
>>
>>
>> You just killed all potential for future help from me.
>>
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--Mike
"Nenad Milicevic - The Aryan Serb" <nenad_t...@shiftmail.com> wrote in
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In addition, I reported it from a "safe" account to the proper authorities
as I've come across it in another group, or one extremely similar, which I
also reported to the authorities.
Did you? You're apparently more of the JHD persuasion and could care less
about the health of your newsgroups: You bit right onto part of the intent
of that post, which was to initiate conversations about it and thus add
useless fodder to the group. It's a rather common tactic, in fact.
Because of that, and since I now understand where you are coming from and a
couple other things I've discerned from your childishness and attitude, I
have nothing further to say to you on this subject or anything similar.
You're trying to draw me into your silliness and it won't work; sorry.
>>> You just killed all potential for future help from me.
So you devolve again to another childish threat/promise of not helping me.
Again, you have a few things to learn about whether or not you're
indispensible; you are not. No one is, for that matter. That's one of the
most dangerous things a person can think about themselves and I hope you
work at overcoming it.
Pop`
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> Hell, my best friend is Jewish, he's whiter than I am, and I'm Irish!! Now
> what am I supposed to do??
>
> --Mike
Blow him.
--
Why does a Jew pick his nose? It's cheaper than using a tissue and they
are tastier than motza balls.
Open up your first reply (to the OP).
Take a look at number of newsgroups you posted to (header info).
After that, Larry reduced the groups to just this one.
After a few comments by others, Kevin rightly made a comment to take this to
email (but he used the OP, so back came all the cross-posts). Crabman responded,
and you've taken it that a missile was tossed in your direction instead.
Bob at least cut it back to just this newsgroup again
Pity the OP's absence is conspicuous, or it would have gone in his direction
Let's cool it, and find some other VB topic to discuss
Argusy
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