OT: But true... in't it...

[Henning]

Hi,

Beeing one of those oooold ones?

http://www.jeremymorgan.com/blog/programming/the-programmers-before-us-were-better/

/Henning

[Mayayana]

| Beeing one of those oooold ones?
|
|
http://www.jeremymorgan.com/blog/programming/the-programmers-before-us-were-better/
|

That's how you know you're old -- when you start
enjoying that kind of article. :)

I think it's known as "founders neurosis" -- which is
related to the tendency to assume that original thought
is possible, not dependent on anything that's come before,
and that oneself has performed such original thought.

I've even heard of old feminists who complain that young
women don't appreciate the work that's been done for them.
Poor Gloria Steinem was out there making a fool of herself,
wearing a miniskirt at age 50 and calling it a feminist act,
so that later generations of post-feminists might find it easier
to deny aging. Do those young women appreciate Ms Steinem's
efforts? Noooooo.

To put it another way, a hundred years ago you might
have churned your own butter, grown your own wheat,
and grown your own peaches. When you made a peach pie
in August (the only time you could) it was probably quite
a feat. But that doesn't mean that today's dessert chefs
are spoiled and lacking skill. They just have different skills.
Try finding a 1-hour recipe for Death-By-Chocolate in 1890. :)

[Auric__]

Mayayana wrote:

>| Beeing one of those oooold ones?
>|
>|
> http://www.jeremymorgan.com/blog/programming/the-programmers-before-us-
> were-better/
>
> That's how you know you're old -- when you start
> enjoying that kind of article. :)

Who you calling "old"? Get off my lawn! :-)

--
The wind blew and the snow fell as the storm raged on.

[DaveO]

"Henning" <comput...@coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:kkjc39$uvc$1...@dont-email.me...

What? You mean programmers today no longer spend ages fine tuning different
versions of the same routine to find the fastest in order to squeeze out the
last dreg of performance from the mighty 6MHz Z80B, sorry I meant the
"absurdly powerful core i7".

It could be argued that having limited resources forces better programming,
could today's programmers fit a word processor on a single floppy (a 360k
not a 1.44M) - not a chance in hell!

Kids today, don't know they're born...

DaveO.

[Jeff Johnson]

"Henning" <comput...@coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:kkjc39$uvc$1...@dont-email.me...

> Beeing one of those oooold ones?
>
> http://www.jeremymorgan.com/blog/programming/the-programmers-before-us-were-better/

I found that to be a very well-written article (minus the
spelling/punctuation mistakes). It's not at all a get-off-my-lawn kind of
thing (not pointing a finger at you, Auric; I would have said that
regardless of your reply), but rather a "people are getting lazier" kind of
thing, and I agree.

[DanS]

On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:10:33 -0400, Mayayana wrote:

> | Beeing one of those oooold ones?
> |
> |
> http://www.jeremymorgan.com/blog/programming/the-programmers-before-us-
were-better/
> |
>
> That's how you know you're old -- when you start
> enjoying that kind of article. :)
>
> I think it's known as "founders neurosis" -- which is
> related to the tendency to assume that original thought is possible, not
> dependent on anything that's come before,
> and that oneself has performed such original thought.
>
> I've even heard of old feminists who complain that young
> women don't appreciate the work that's been done for them.
> Poor Gloria Steinem was out there making a fool of herself,
> wearing a miniskirt at age 50 and calling it a feminist act,
> so that later generations of post-feminists might find it easier to deny
> aging. Do those young women appreciate Ms Steinem's efforts? Noooooo.

One day in the middle of winter, I came home from work to maybe a foot of
wet heavy snow. There's a couple next door, a younger couple in their mid/
late 20's. The guy had taken off to go to work, an oddball early
afternoon start, and the snow had all fallen since then. The girl, after
returning home from work, had decided to use the giant snow blower her
husband usually runs to clean out her own driveway.

She had just started, as I was finishing off my own driveway/sidewalk,
and I noticed she was somewhat struggling.

Of course, my first instinct was to just tell her to go back in the
house, and I'll do it for her. (We don't have the longest driveways.) I
thought better of myself however, and just gave her a quick snow-blowing
lesson and I left her to finish the job herself.

I told her, straight out, that typically I would have just done this for
you....(what guy doesn't like to help a "damsel in distress")....but I
thought it was important for you to do this yourself, at least once, so
you *do* actually know what it takes to get this particular job done.

(Not that it's intense physical labor, them having this enormous
snowblower, but it's still a job that needs to be done, it still takes
time, it's still done outside in the cold, etc.)

I'd help out now, but it was important, to me anyway, that she have the
full experience herself, so she does have a full understanding of what
others do for her without question. I just wish I felt this way 25 years
ago.