Annexcafe User2User newsgroup
~BD~
news:jde5l0GT...@GAMERA.annex.com...
"Reckon he finally figured it out?"
******
That is what 'Grybeard' posted after I had been bannished from Annexcafe.
*Is* www.Annexcafe.com a safe place for folk to go to get help with their
computer problems?
--
Dave
~BD~
"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.non...@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:gu9dp9$4c3$1...@news.motzarella.org...
> ~BD~ wrote:
>
>> Using linux will not stop you visiting www.dogagent.com in the first
>> instance to explore. Someone reading here may have access to IE as
>> well as linux or OSX and be willing to take a looksee and report what
>> they find.
>
> Using Linux with Firefox and Opera, found:
> one of world's worst web sites. :-/
>
> Once past the splash page to:
> http://www.dogagent.com/nindex.html
> I found a page with 991 HTML errors. Not a record, though. And all the
> VBScript has no effect.
>
> Note that the splash page has some very annoying JavaScript code that
> wants to take over my browser, by using new windows with no toolbars or
> menu bars:
>
> function openWIN()
> {window.open("nindex.html","_blank","status=no,toolbar=no,menubar=no");
>
> Site Rating: 0 | | | | 5 | | | | 10
> ^
> ^
> --
> -bts
> -Friends don't let friends drive Windows
Thanks for taking a look, BTS
It seems you were not too impressed! Why then, I wonder, would Mr Gregory
Gooden, the owner of www.annex.com , select the owner of Dogagent (a certain
Dave Higham - who recently responded to me in 'microsoft.public.test here' -
I'll copy his Header from that post at the end of this message) to act as
his back-up facility in case of an Annex server failure?
Something does not ring true - of that I am quite certain!
***************
From: "Dave H" <spam...@pepedog.com>
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"BoaterDave" <Boate...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7FA72FD5-4A8C-4577...@microsoft.com...
> So - Why doesn't it show in Outlook Express 6 newsgroup -
> msnews.microsoft.com 'microsoft.public.test.here' group?
>
> I'm always curious. Can anyone advise? Thanks.
Because you suck
*********
I cannot help but find it intriguing that he should be in any way interested
in my search for bad guys.
He certainly doesn't seem to like me!
--
Dave
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>> Using linux will not stop you visiting www.dogagent.com
>>
>> Site Rating: 0 | | | | 5 | | | | 10
>> ^
>
> Thanks for taking a look, BTS
>
> It seems you were not too impressed! Why then, I wonder, would Mr
> Gregory Gooden, the owner of www.annex.com , select the owner of
> Dogagent (a certain Dave Higham - who recently responded to me in
> 'microsoft.public.test here' - I'll copy his Header from that post at
> the end of this message) to act as his back-up facility in case of an
> Annex server failure?
Examining the annex.com web site might indicate that its owner is also
lacking clues about how to write a site that gets much above that "0"
rating. It is, first thing I notice, very slow to respond (even on my
high-speed cable). Superfluous JavaScript. Last millennium style code.
The web hosting plans are about twice as expensive as the norm - for a
good deal less service than the norm. For example, my web site host's
Basic plan offers 40 times the monthly transfer rate and 15 times the
storage, for half the price of annex.com's Basic plan. :-/
> Something does not ring true - of that I am quite certain!
Well, maybe Mr Higham has some knowledge of how web servers operate.
This is, of course, a WAG.
~BD~
"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.non...@example.invalid> wrote in message
WAG? Google gives me 16,300,000 results! Please clarify. TIA
FYI - This URL gives some extra background
http://www.pqlr.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=293&p=8365#p8365
Some 'interpretation' is required I'm afraid. Btw, Annexcafe has over 300
newsgroups, all funded by a business losing money and run by a recovering
alchoholic! Hmmm!
******
Annexcafe is at risk, and it is up to us to pitch in and help get us past a
rocky period. I had hoped to be able to handle the situation without
worrying everyone, but with Gregory having to be away for so long to be with
his very ill mother and her deteriorating condition, time has begun to run
out, and I need as much help as I can get.
The situation is this. Gregory's paying business, Annex Technologies, Inc,
which supports Annexcafe is losing money, approximately $2,000 a month.
Obviously, Gregory can't continue to cover this loss. Nor could we at the
Cafe. Gregory is working to cut back on expenses, and trying desperately for
us not to be one of his cutbacks. The real solution is for him to be able to
increase his customer base for Annex, and that is where we come in. WE CAN
HELP. We have an incredible pool of talent here at Annexcafe. What I am
hoping we can do is work together to design a blockbuster ad campaign for
Annex Technologies that will boost them into the black, let us all rest more
comfortably and give Gregory the time he needs to be with his mother.
Obviously, we will not spam, but I'm asking we all pool resources in support
of this project, not just to save ourselves, but to thank Gregory and show
him how appreciative we are of his years of generosity toward us. Part of
the delay was that with Gregory gone mid-effort, I didn't completely
understand what Annex Tech offered that others didn't offer for less money,
but Gregory and I had a long discussion last Thursday, and he really does
have something unique to offer. If we work as a team, I think we can help
him sell it. Toward that goal, I am opening the newsgroup Annexcafe.Team.
The purpose of this group will be to brainstorm, to share advertising ideas,
to post graphics and web ads, whatever YOU think will help promote Annex. We
can then take these ads and plans to our individual communities, both
virtual and IRL and see what we can do.
Annex Technologies is in the webhosting business. They're shifting to
hosting with Control Panel, for plans starting at $9.95 a month. Clients can
pay on a month-to-month basis (or for 6 months or a year at a discount), and
no contracts are required, so if a client wants to try out the service,
they're only committed for one month. One of the company's main selling
points is service. They are large enough to have several servers, thus the
crash of one server does not mean the client's resources go offline, but not
so large that customer service is outsourced or designated to call centers.
The support staff for Annex.com knows the individual clients and possesses a
history of any problems the client has been having, and issues are often
answered by Gregory himself.
Annex is particularly good for people or small businesses that want webpages
that load quickly without ads, but have little experience working with html
or are not wonderful with computers, particularly if they want webpages with
complicated functions, such as separate message boards, mailboxes (with spam
and antiviral filters), blogs, webnews, and photo galleries. Accessing these
features is quite easy, but critically, Annex staff will quite literally
guide a client, step by step, through the creation of anything that client
might be finding difficulty with. One feature I found really cool was the
ability for Annex to have an online store created for a client, up and
running, within a week's time.
Oh, one other cool feature is the "Rescue Service" (think firetrucks and
ambulances). Since most webhosting services come down to a guy with a
server, Annex offers a service where, if you have notification that your
current webhost is about to be shut down, taking your site with it, Gregory
will download all the information from your site, and upload it to the Annex
server.
The current site that best represents them is http://*****.com. If there are
any links there to development services, those are being phased out. He's
also planning to make some other updates to the website.
Gregory's got an admitted weakness in the advertising department (though we
adore him!). Considering I'm a total tech dummy, I think it'd be great to
appeal to people who are quite confused by the whole business of setting up
a webpage, and particularly selling stuff online. I have some rudimentary
html skills, but things like setting up customized photo galleries, message
boards, or certainly secure webpages for online sales is far beyond my
capabilities, and I'm hoping to reach my fellow dum dums. Even the term "web
hosting" for many people I've talked to, including those who'd like to set
up websites with galleries of their vacations and grandchildren and such but
don't know how to go about doing it, is a bit too technical. While I'd love
contributions of art/ads, etc, in the same sense we have for our honored
artists but with a product oriented direction, what I want to *decidedly*
avoid, as I mentioned above, is creating spam. We're rabid about anti-spam
here at the Cafe, and it certainly wouldn't be fair, even with good intent,
to inflict on other servers what we don't allow ourselves.
So you have the description, you have the board, and naturally, we
appreciate any and all help!
Ishie (Aka ........ shewhocannotbenamed)
Also: The addy for contributions is:
Annex Technologies
15315 Magnolia
Suite 203
*somewhereinCA*, CA 91403
Alternately, people can go to the main webpage
http://www.*thatLIBERALgroup*.com/main.cfm
and scroll down to the "Support Annex"
Paypal Donate button in the lower right hand corner.
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> This is, of course, a WAG.
>
> WAG? Google gives me 16,300,000 results! Please clarify. TIA
Heehee. You can find most 'acronyms' at this site, including:
http://www.acronymfinder.com/WAG.html
It's not first on the list... (hint: guess)
See also: SWAG
> FYI - This URL gives some extra background
> http://www.pqlr.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=293&p=8365#p8365
..a thread begun in August 2006. <g>
> Some 'interpretation' is required I'm afraid. Btw, Annexcafe has over 300
> newsgroups, all funded by a business losing money and run by a recovering
> alchoholic! Hmmm!
Well, I guest that answers two questions. One: why the hosting is
expensive, and Two: why the annex.com code is so old-style.
~BD~
> In alt.computer.security, ~BD~ wrote:
>
>> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>>> This is, of course, a WAG.
>> WAG? Google gives me 16,300,000 results! Please clarify. TIA
>
> Heehee. You can find most 'acronyms' at this site, including:
> http://www.acronymfinder.com/WAG.html
>
> It's not first on the list... (hint: guess)
> See also: SWAG
>
>> FYI - This URL gives some extra background
>> http://www.pqlr.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=293&p=8365#p8365
>
> ..a thread begun in August 2006. <g>
>
>> Some 'interpretation' is required I'm afraid. Btw, Annexcafe has over 300
>> newsgroups, all funded by a business losing money and run by a recovering
>> alchoholic! Hmmm!
>
Thanks for your response once again, BTS
I enjoy your sense of humour! ;)
IMO there are some *very* clever folk responding to queries on U2U
Should you have the time, why not register with Annexcafe, go to U2U and
ask any technical question you can think of which might stretch to
'average' adviser.
I'll wager that you get a great selection of replies!
Btw, did you come across the Webrings?
You could start here http://webrings.annexcafe.com/?Stats&id=95
The info. doesn't quite tie in with the activity in the group AFAICT.
Cheers
--
Dave
~BD~
Thanks for your response once again, BTS
I enjoy your sense of humour! ;)
IMO there are some *very* clever folk responding to queries on U2U
Should you have the time, why not register with Annexcafe, go to U2U and
ask any technical question you can think of which might stretch an
'average' adviser.
I'll wager that you'll get a great selection of replies!
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
> Thanks for your response once again, BTS
> I enjoy your sense of humour! ;)
Thenk yew.
> Should you have the time, why not register with Annexcafe,
Time is short. Life goes on. Finding time here in retirement for such
extra-curricular activities is difficult. I think I'll have another nap.
> Btw, did you come across the Webrings?
No, I had not. Odd stats there... about an 20:1 ratio of bots to humans,
and virtually all of the humans use Internet Explorer.
~BD~
> In alt.computer.security, ~BD~ wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your response once again, BTS
>> I enjoy your sense of humour! ;)
>
> Thenk yew.
YW :)
>> Should you have the time, why not register with Annexcafe,
>
> Time is short. Life goes on. Finding time here in retirement for such
> extra-curricular activities is difficult. I think I'll have another nap.
I do understand the time demands - one wonders how one ever had the time
to actually earn a living! Perhaps when you awaken? <g>
>> Btw, did you come across the Webrings?
>
> No, I had not. Odd stats there... about an 20:1 ratio of bots to humans,
> and virtually all of the humans use Internet Explorer.
I know nothing about server stats. Perhaps you'd review these and
comment thereafter:-
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Conn
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602
CoyoteV
258
Katherine
211
TrolLisaTroll
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cks
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dave
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Lana
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Kuno
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Herbert
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Gisele2
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty
> I know nothing about server stats. Perhaps you'd review these and
> comment thereafter:-
To tell you the troot, Dave, I'm not really interested in what goes on
at annexcafe... sorry.
~BD~
> In alt.computer.security, ~BD~ wrote:
>
>> I know nothing about server stats. Perhaps you'd review these and
>> comment thereafter:-
>
> To tell you the troot, Dave, I'm not really interested in what goes on
> at annexcafe... sorry.
>
Interesting response, BTS - the stats I posted were *not* from AnnexCafe.
Maybe someone more knowledgeable will comment.
--
Dave
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
What? You equate my lack of interest as a lack of knowledge? <lol!>
BoaterDave
<a.nony.m...@example.invalid> wrote:
> In alt.computer.security, ~BD~ wrote:
> > Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> >> In alt.computer.security, ~BD~ wrote:
> >>> I know nothing about server stats. Perhaps you'd review these and
> >>> comment thereafter:-
>
> >> To tell you the troot, Dave, I'm not really interested in what goes
> >> on at annexcafe... sorry.
>
> > Interesting response, BTS - the stats I posted were *not* from
> > AnnexCafe.
>
> > Maybe someone more knowledgeable will comment.
>
> What? You equate my lack of interest as a lack of knowledge? <lol!>
>
> --
> -bts
> -Friends don't let friends drive Windows
:))) But .......................
I had a look at the most frequent 'user' in these statistics -
amigo5432 - (via Google) and discovered that this poster is on a
*Russian* site:-
See:- http://forum.arena.ru/index.php?showtopic=82377&mode=threaded&pid=684890
Now *I* find things like this intriguing - why would someone posting
on a Russian URL be the most prolific poster on the Dogagent.com
server? Hmmm!
The next most frequent poster is CoyoteV - a member of staff at
Annexcafe (and moderator of Scorched Earth)
Significant in any way? Probably not ........ but I bet we don't get a
satisfactory explanation from Dave Higham, the owner of Dogagent!
--
Dave (BD)
~BD~
"G. Morgan" <usenet...@gawab.com> wrote in message
news:47b14101f9ca8c80a...@mypost.invalid...
> ~BD~ wrote:
>
>>Some 'interpretation' is required I'm afraid. Btw, Annexcafe has over 300
>>newsgroups, all funded by a business losing money and run by a recovering
>>alchoholic! Hmmm!
>
>
>
Not at all. I have never suggested that Gregory Gooden himself is evil
........... but he *might* be!
> Why are you "investigating" these people?
'Cause I can! Honest folk give straight-forward answers - others lie!
> What do you mean by getting rid of "evil" on the "web"?
Like ....... stopping kids when I see them scrawling graffiti on walls or
riding motorbikes along canal towpaths (illegal)!
HTH
--
Dave
Tim Jackson
> "G. Morgan" <usenet...@gawab.com> wrote in message
> news:47b14101f9ca8c80a...@mypost.invalid...
>
>> What do you mean by getting rid of "evil" on the "web"?
>
> Like ....... stopping kids when I see them scrawling graffiti on walls or
> riding motorbikes along canal towpaths (illegal)!
>
Ah, poor kids. Somehow it seems a bit mean for an ex fighter jock to be
stopping kids seeking a bit of a thrill in today's so-restrictive and
boring world.
What we need is more activities for kids to exercise their creativity
and let off steam, not more vigilantes trying to cage them. Don't
punish them, take them paintballing. :)
Tim
~BD~
Well .... I have been known to let one or two steer my narrowboat! ;)
It's good to know that you still have that attitude when you have
advised that vandals shredded your pond liner with a broken wine glass!
--
Dave
~BD~
> "Grybeard" <grybe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:jde5l0GT...@GAMERA.annex.com...
>
> "Reckon he finally figured it out?"
>
> ******
>
> *Is* www.Annexcafe.com a safe place for folk to go to get help with their
> computer problems?
>
> --
> Dave
scolded by the User2User group moderator, 'Roy C'
--
Oldus Fartus
>> *Is* www.Annexcafe.com a safe place for folk to go to get help with their
>> computer problems?
>>
>
"I certainly accept that Annexcafe follows its own understanding
of what "best practices" are, and I'm certainly not going to fault them
for their choices -- on the contrary, I commend them for providing such
a warm, polite, hospitable, and welcoming environment, in which
civilized folks may tactfully and diplomatically air their problems and
concerns."
They can't be too bad, after all they banned you.
--
Cheers
Oldus Fartus
~BD~
Some readers may not know this about Annexcafe .......
The most simple way to describe this site is to say that we are a
"Clean, Well Lit Online Community".
Here, you will find a wide variety of interactive features such as:
Interactive Chat rooms supporting a variety of ways to connect to them.
Public Message areas covering a wide range of topics.
Useful Internet related files and utilities.
Special Interest Groups (forums) with specialized content developed by
experts in their fields.
And all of these features are publically available to you at no charge!
Why do we do this for free? The answer is simple, if not long-winded (grin):
I will start with a statement of WHY Annexcafe exists.
Back in 1985 (seems like a century ago), I discovered a magical world
called "bbs'ing". My brother had given me a commodore 64 that was
sitting in his closet. He had found no use for it. One of my friends
from Rocky Horror (oh gawsh, remember THOSE days maybe?) said, "You
should get ONLINE with it!". Up until that point, I had been using it to
do accounting for one of those silly MLM type businesses I was trying.
A 300 Baud modem later, I was enrapt with the online world with some
local bbs'es (Bulletin board systems) and some national ones that had
online games. To try to understand how fast 300 baud is, consider the
fact that a MODEM DIALUP to the internet is 56,000 baud. A DSL LINE (the
cheapest at 128k) is 128,000 baud. Those were the days..
So I really got into BBS'ing and by 1987 I had my own 4 line bbs. That
meant that 4 people at a time could dial up into my bulletin board and
chat with each other, or post messages for others to read and reply to
(or they could play TradeWars).
In 1992, after I had moved to Los Angeles, Annex really began. We
migrated to an 8 line system, which grew to 16 lines, 32 lines, 48
lines, 52 lines and ultimately 240 lines. People from all over the world
were meeting up, chatting and learning new things about people through
my set of computers.
It was my last, best destiny. I loved making a living by actually making
a difference in the world. People met, changed their mind about
preconceived notions, divorced, married, had babies. A "VIRTUAL TOWN".
THEN CAME THE INTERNET.
It changed everything. We adapted by first offering dialup access to the
internet through our bbs. Then we were one of the first people in
California to offer web site development and hosting. This is back
BEFORE earthlink existed.. Before AOL was on the internet.. Before
compuserve/prodigy went away..
The business had changed and we had to get with it.. So we developed
websites and hosted websites.
Then came MSN.
For those who remember, the original MSN was specialty software that
ONLY worked with Windows95. That had a grand vision about what the
internet could offer. I agreed with their vision. They never gave that
platform enough of a chance, imo.. I worked for Microsoft (as a
contractor) from late 1995 to early 1998. MSN evolved from proprietary
software to WEB-BASED technology and I managed several MSN Community
sites (The Internet Community, The Forum Manager's Community, and the
Law and Courtroom Community). In addition, we set up servers on OUR side
that acted as a resource for other FM's (Forum Managers).
Then they (MSN) gave up on the managed communities idea, and a LOT of
communities were left in the cold. My business was hopping, and I felt
(and still do) that I owed something back to the internet community in
general.
So we put up a chat server. We put up the newsgroups. And we gave a home
to all the abandoned online communities that MSN purged. That was the
birth of the Annexcafe, and we've been adding new groups and chats
since! We have an awesome crowd of people and you'll find that we're a
really big family here.
JOIN US!
We hope you enjoy our community as it grows and develops, and want this
to be YOUR home on the net. Send us feedback if there is anything that
we can do to make that happen.
http://www.annexcafe.com/about.cfm
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The last I heard, *Ishie* was paying for the site! Well, that was
before her brother stepped in a stopped that ...... and Annexcafe went
to it's members with it's begging bowl again!
Were you aware that her home burned to the ground? Read about it here:
http://sgumd.blogspot.co.uk/search?updated-max=2012-01-10T00:26:00-04:00&max-results=15
Anyone know who is financially supporting Annexcafe now?
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Oldus Fartus
As I said - they can't be too bad, after all they banned you.
I still don't know why you don't use your other account to re-register
with them under a different name?
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Cheers
Oldus Fartus
~BD~
Btw, just how long have you known Betty? RonNNN too? Were you posting
with them in the MSN days? Just curious, no biggie!
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Oldus Fartus
> Oldus Fartus wrote:
>> After serious thinking ~BD~ wrote :
>>> Some readers may not know this about Annexcafe .....
>>
>> snipped well worn word wall
>>
>> As I said - they can't be too bad, after all they banned you.
>>
>> I still don't know why you don't use your other account to re-register
>> with them under a different name?
>
> My *other* account? <puzzled>
>
carrier when you went boating?
> Btw, just how long have you known Betty? RonNNN too? Were you posting with
> them in the MSN days? Just curious, no biggie!
NOYB (But you knew that already.)
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Cheers
Oldus Fartus
Betty
I don't know if his memory is really that bad, or if he's trolling. It
was explained in careful detail where we came from.
.
~BD~
> In article <ztmdnTac9p_U7fTM...@bt.com>,
> ~BD~@nomail.afraid.org says...
> via StarText.
>
This is not something I've ever been concerned about - nor is it now -
and I have not committed it to memory.
I have no knowledge of 'StarText'!
I understood that the folk posting at Annxecafe arrived there when MSN
shut down it's newsgroups. This is what Gregory Gooden says ....
"For those who remember, the original MSN was specialty software that
ONLY worked with Windows95. That had a grand vision about what the
internet could offer. I agreed with their vision. They never gave that
platform enough of a chance, imo.. I worked for Microsoft (as a
contractor) from late 1995 to early 1998. MSN evolved from proprietary
software to WEB-BASED technology and I managed several MSN Community
sites (The Internet Community, The Forum Manager's Community, and the
Law and Courtroom Community). In addition, we set up servers on OUR side
that acted as a resource for other FM's (Forum Managers).
Then they (MSN) gave up on the managed communities idea, and a LOT of
communities were left in the cold. My business was hopping, and I felt
(and still do) that I owed something back to the internet community in
general.
So we put up a chat server. We put up the newsgroups. And we gave a home
to all the abandoned online communities that MSN purged. That was the
birth of the Annexcafe, and we've been adding new groups and chats
since! We have an awesome crowd of people and you'll find that we're a
=====================================================================
Is that incorrect, Ron?
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~BD~
> On 4/13/2013 ~BD~ wrote :
>> Oldus Fartus wrote:
>>> After serious thinking ~BD~ wrote :
>>>> Some readers may not know this about Annexcafe .....
>>>
>>> snipped well worn word wall
>>>
>>> As I said - they can't be too bad, after all they banned you.
>>>
>>> I still don't know why you don't use your other account to re-register
>>> with them under a different name?
>>
>> My *other* account? <puzzled>
>>
>
> Yep. Didn't you say you used a mobile data account with a different
> carrier when you went boating?
Unfortunately, although that works really well in most places in the UK,
it *doesn't* have signal coverage right here at home!
You can check that for yourself!
>> Btw, just how long have you known Betty? RonNNN too? Were you
>> posting with them in the MSN days? Just curious, no biggie!
> )
> NOYB (But you knew that already.)
Sometimes you appear quite well-balanced - that's no doubt when, like
many Australians, you have a chip on *each* shoulder! <smiling> :-)
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~BD~
> In article <E6udncsNe9CKHfTM...@bt.com>,
> ~BD~@nomail.afraid.org says...
>
> Open your eyes BD... there is a whole world out there aside from yours!
How on earth did *you* get to know about Annexcafe newsgroups, Ron?
That's a serious question.
I'm sure you know how *I* found my way there!
I've just skimmed here, btw: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarText
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~BD~
I gather you knew Ron here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarText
Is that right?
So, please, tell me ...... how did *you* find your way to Annexcafe?
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~BD~
[....]
(To save re-inventing the wheel!)
--
~BD~
> In article <pZ6dnQIau8M0H_TM...@bt.com>,
> Usenet newsgroups.
I am now *much* better informed, Ron. *Thank you*! :-)
http://brisbee.cccranch.net/chapman.html
It must have been fun to play there!
> There was/is another private server that also took up
> the slack, but that is NOYB, and I don't intend to expound on that.
If it's private then it is of no interest to me, now is it?!! ;-)
Why folk have to be so secretive I have no idea. <shrug>
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Betty
it again.
~BD~
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~BD~
[....]
> AC is a private server too, and you've never lost interest in it, even
> after being told to get lost!
Have you ever wondered how Mr Gooden managed to afford to take all his
wonderful holidays, including here in the UK, when he was an alcoholic
running a failing business?
Have you ever seen all the photographs of those holidays?
> Yes, Brisbee was a fun place, but never really fully recovered after
> StarText became defunct.
Is it still actually in process? May anyone partake or is it reserved
for Texans?
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John Karras
> Have you ever wondered how Mr Gooden managed ...
No, that would only be you, the slimy busybody.
bus·y·bod·y
noun, plural bus·y·bod·ies.
a person who pries into or meddles in the affairs of others.
Synonyms
snoop, pry, meddler, Nosy Parker; gossip, blabbermouth.
<http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/busybody?s=t&path=/>
~BD~
> The ~Slimey Limey~ wrote:
>
>> Have you ever wondered how Mr Gooden managed ...
>
> No, that would only be you, the slimy busybody.
Are you Gay too, John Karras?
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John Karras
> John Karras wrote:
>> The ~Slimey Limey~ wrote:
>>
>>> Have you ever wondered how Mr Gooden managed ...
>>
>> No, that would only be you, the slimy busybody.
>
> He is.
mean that you admit to being a slimy busybody.
> Are you Gay too, John Karras?
*"The Slimey Limey is gay!"* Were you buggering boys in downtown Devon
this evening?
(I, on the other hand, am not.)
FromTheRafters
> Are you Gay too, John Karras?
Oldus Fartus
> I wonder if he thinks the truth will change if he asks enough times?!
> LOL!
Yes he does think that Ron.
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Cheers
Oldus Fartus
James Jones
>
>They can't be too bad, after all they banned you.
LOL
James Jones
>I wonder if he thinks the truth will change if he asks enough times?!
~BD~
finding a partner before you die! Life is short, FTR!
Have a great day. :-)
Btw, how is your application for 'benefits' going? (not snide!) Any news?
--
~BD~
Have we met before? Maybe when you used a different 'nym'?
Regardless, you are most welcome here! :-)
--
John Karras
> ~BD~ formulated the question :
>
>> Are you Gay too
>
elsewhere for a boyfriend.
FromTheRafters
FromTheRafters
>> ~BD~ formulated the question :
>>
>>> Are you Gay too, John Karras?
>>
>> This isn't a dating site BD! Try christianmingle.com.
>
>
> I did explore there. Perhaps you should too, if you want any chance of
> finding a partner before you die! Life is short, FTR!
> Have a great day. :-)
>
> Btw, how is your application for 'benefits' going? (not snide!) Any news?
said they have passed on my request to the Department of the Navy and
they should be sending out my DD-214.
~BD~
Is it something which you would recommend? I presume you have first-hand
knowledge of the benefits. Please confirm.
TIA
--
-X-
> That place doesn't accept gay people.
damn!
--
-X-
To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism. To steal from many is
research.
FromTheRafters
>>>
>>> Have we met before? Maybe when you used a different 'nym'?
>>>
>>> Regardless, you are most welcome here! :-)
>>
>> LOL, would you like some Kool-Aid?
>
>
Sure, Kool-Aid is a powdered drink flavoring for adding to water.
Kool-Aid is mistakenly used as the brand name for the powdered drink
mix used by Jim Jones in his mass poisoning of his sheeple. The term
'Drinking the Kool-Aid' is now used to indicate those who would blindly
follow someones lead and let that someone else do their thinking for
them.
~BD~
Rather like SeaNymph following Aardvark!
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FromTheRafters
just makes you look more foolish.
~BD~
FromTheRafters
~BD~
What, specifically, did you have in mind, FTR?
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