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CELKO, I have a problem with your book "Analytics & OLAP in SQL"

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new DBA in '09

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Aug 28, 2010, 8:52:07 PM8/28/10
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CELKO, your Analytics & OLAP in SQL book arrived last week and I
started reading it today. Unfortunately, pages 13 through 60 are
missing. Could you possibly replace it for me, or perhaps send me a
PDF of the missing pages? I need to read it sooner rather than later.

Erland Sommarskog

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Aug 29, 2010, 5:32:18 AM8/29/10
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What? Do you accuse poor old Joe for using keys that depends on physical
location? Joe would never do such a thing! If there is no page 13 to 60,
then it is because he using VIN or whatever natural key he has chosen!

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Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esq...@sommarskog.se

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mouser

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Aug 29, 2010, 8:01:00 PM8/29/10
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On 29-Aug-2010, Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:

> What? Do you accuse poor old Joe for using keys that depends on physical
> location? Joe would never do such a thing! If there is no page 13 to 60,
> then it is because he using VIN or whatever natural key he has chosen!

lol, good one Erland!

Gene Wirchenko

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Aug 29, 2010, 11:54:22 PM8/29/10
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 11:32:18 +0200, Erland Sommarskog
<esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:

>new DBA in '09 (ericb...@gmail.com) writes:
>> CELKO, your Analytics & OLAP in SQL book arrived last week and I
>> started reading it today. Unfortunately, pages 13 through 60 are
>> missing. Could you possibly replace it for me, or perhaps send me a
>> PDF of the missing pages? I need to read it sooner rather than later.
>
>What? Do you accuse poor old Joe for using keys that depends on physical
>location? Joe would never do such a thing! If there is no page 13 to 60,
>then it is because he using VIN or whatever natural key he has chosen!

Page numbers are not as safe a key as one might think.

I have a book on insurance that has pagination of the form
<chapter>-<page within chapter>
This is not a rare format. I used a definition from it in a paper I
wrote. The style that I used has page references being in the form
<page>
or
<page low>-<page high>
If you see
1-6
is it pages one to six or page one dash six? In my case, it was the
latter.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

new DBA in '09

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Aug 30, 2010, 11:12:43 AM8/30/10
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There's no chapter/page numbering scheme, it's purely one numeric
value.

--CELKO--

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Aug 30, 2010, 11:35:39 AM8/30/10
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>> Unfortunately, pages 13 through 60 are missing.  Could you possibly replace it for me, or perhaps send me a PDF of the missing pages?  I need to read it sooner rather than later. <<

I just write the books; I do not print them. A few years ago, someone
else had this problem -- I guess there was a bad batch -- and they
returned it for a replacement copy.

--CELKO--

--CELKO--

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Aug 30, 2010, 11:38:13 AM8/30/10
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If you ever worked with a library that microfilmed magazines, they
copy both sides of the blow-in (those reply cards and advertisements
that are inserted after production). That really messed up trying to
locate pages by counting frames.

new DBA in '09

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Aug 30, 2010, 12:15:06 PM8/30/10
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Do you by chance have a PDF of the missing pages that I could get from
you? Or even text?

Erland Sommarskog

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Aug 30, 2010, 2:55:25 PM8/30/10
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new DBA in '09 (ericb...@gmail.com) writes:
> Do you by chance have a PDF of the missing pages that I could get from
> you? Or even text?

I think you should contact the bookstore where you bought the book.

Gene Wirchenko

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Aug 30, 2010, 5:11:10 PM8/30/10
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Possibly, but in other cases, it is more interesting.

Are you sure about "purely one numeric value"? Preface pages are
often numbered in lower-case Roman Numerals. This was an issue with
Acrobat Reader way back. The TOC would say page n, but the actual
page number (counting pages of document regardless of numbering
scheme(s)) was page n+k.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Philipp Post

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Aug 31, 2010, 4:19:44 AM8/31/10
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> This was an issue with Acrobat Reader way back. The TOC would say page n, but the actual page number (counting pages of document regardless of numbering scheme(s)) was page n+k. <

I would rather say it is an issue with the specific PDF-file. If one
has Acrobat in full on hands, this can be by-passed by creating click-
links at the TOC (but that is hard and boring work) or adding at least
some bookmarks for the chapters which would be less work.

brgds

Philipp Post

--CELKO--

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Aug 31, 2010, 7:53:24 AM8/31/10
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Again, I am the author of the book. I am not the publisher. I am not
the printer. If you bought a scratched DVD of STAR WARS, would yuou
wrute George Lucas and expect him to replace for you out of his own
pocket?

new DBA in '09

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Aug 31, 2010, 11:25:48 AM8/31/10
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Perhaps, if I was in regular contact with him and he had answered my
previous trivial questions about the clone wars, jedi powers, etc.

You recommended the book specifically, and I'm already half-way
through Kimball's Data Warehouse Lifecycle Toolkit. I was hoping to
start and finish your book last Saturday, was severely disappointed 12
pages into it--through no fault of your own, of course. Just thought
I'd take a shot at asking if you had a PDF or hell, even a box of 'em
in the garage. It's the first book of yours I've ever started. I'm
taking it up with the seller, but I don't expect any quick
resolution. Don't waste your time responding to this.

Nobody

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Aug 31, 2010, 11:57:39 AM8/31/10
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"new DBA in '09" <ericb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f8879622-d39b-4e89...@p12g2000prn.googlegroups.com...

> Perhaps, if I was in regular contact with him and he had answered my
> previous trivial questions about the clone wars, jedi powers, etc.
>

Which would have nothing to do with a DVD being scratched would it?
This is a book
publisher issue, contact the place where you purchased the book and
asked them what to do.
Not anymore complicated then that.


can't imagine who posted that

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Sep 14, 2010, 1:03:29 PM9/14/10
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Garsh, what an a-hole, this "nobody." Can't say you're offering any
value to this conversation. I can see why you used another account to
post this. Or is there a this guy "nobody" that goes around making
snarky remarks? I wonder if he'd take your advice on buying any of
your--I mean, "that one guy, Celko's"--books again. Your statement
here is petty at best, but helpless for sure. I wonder if anybody's
actually fooled about who "nobody" is. Kind of ironic, actually.

--CELKO--

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Sep 20, 2010, 11:27:36 AM9/20/10
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>>  I wonder if he'd take your advice on buying any of your--I mean, "that one guy, Celko's"--books again.  Your statement here is petty at best, but helpless for sure.  I wonder if anybody's actually fooled about who "nobody" is.  <<

Sorry, but you did get fooled; I am not posting under the name
"Nobody" and I have no idea who it is. I also do not run "The SQL
Apprentice" website that collects my postings. Trust me, I have a
reputation for bluntness, not subtlety and certainly not for
anonymity.

Did you ever go back to your bookstore and get the seller to replace
defective merchandise?


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