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| I had the same problem on my computer. I did a lot of research and finally found the
| company's phone number. I spoke to a customer service rep and they were actually very
| helpful. They helped me get the program off of my computer very easily. Their number
| is 1-800-831-8940 I hope this helps. -- DerekG
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Anoth friggen techarena.in idiot.
"I had the same problem on my computer"
What "same problem" ? The original post wasn't even quoted!
Access to Usenet news groups is *best* performed using a NNTP (News) client and not the
techarena.in crap.
This news group can be accessed directly by the following News URL;
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.security.virus
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Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
Though I also recommend the direct route, we have to remember that
those forums do provide a service, and DO provide long term archival
services to these Microsoft groups. Many of these secondary external
forum users are now used to posting under blogs, in private forums, and
stuff; and have no idea they are SUPPOSED to quote in the newsgroups so
others know what the heck is going on, particularly when addressing old
material.
If we constantly call them names or question their activities, they
will likely stop participating altogether.
HOWEVER, I'm not sure this wasn't just a advertisement, or worse, some
malicious activity to obtain personal contact. You find the mention of
this number in numerous forums and the like related to Facebook and
elsewhere after installing My Web Tattoo, such as:
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/forums/index.cfm?action=showthread&threadid=354690&forumid=1
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Web+Search/thread?tid=060912bb33995048&hl=en
Depending upon WHAT browser and version, it can be cleared either by
above recommendations or:
http://www.pccybertek.com/2009/05/remove-fast-browser-search
It would have been nice to see what had been recommended previously in
this group.
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MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
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| Though I also recommend the direct route, we have to remember that
| those forums do provide a service, and DO provide long term archival
| services to these Microsoft groups. Many of these secondary external
| forum users are now used to posting under blogs, in private forums, and
| stuff; and have no idea they are SUPPOSED to quote in the newsgroups so
| others know what the heck is going on, particularly when addressing old
| material.
| If we constantly call them names or question their activities, they
| will likely stop participating altogether.
| HOWEVER, I'm not sure this wasn't just a advertisement, or worse, some
| malicious activity to obtain personal contact. You find the mention of
| this number in numerous forums and the like related to Facebook and
| elsewhere after installing My Web Tattoo, such as:
| http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/forums/index.cfm?action=showthread&threadid=354690&forumid=1
| http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Web+Search/thread?tid=060912bb33995048&hl=en
| Depending upon WHAT browser and version, it can be cleared either by
| above recommendations or:
| http://www.pccybertek.com/2009/05/remove-fast-browser-search
| It would have been nice to see what had been recommended previously in
| this group.
I'm sorry, I find techarena.in and other web front-ends to Usenet are more of a
DISSERVICE than a service.
Just a few days ago a reply from techarena.in was made to a 2 year old thread. As
always, when a subject is replied to the subject matter being replied to is NEVER quoted
leaving Usenet in the dark.
Let those who use web front-ends to Usenet not participate. That will be a "good
thing".
I was never thrilled about the Microsoft CDO web-front end but, it is 10 times better than
techarena.in !
I certainly understand {I hate what Usenet and these MS forums turned
into}... but these newsgroups are mostly [comparatively to what they
once were] dead now, and in part due to the general response found by
these parties when they post... should the same be applied to those
using Google Groups be applied? It has and is a deterrent to those users
to post in these groups.
Yet what do we now also find suggested... to post in Microsoft's
private forums and communities... and direction to other private forums
for other security/malware issues.
| I certainly understand {I hate what Usenet and these MS forums turned
| into}... but these newsgroups are mostly [comparatively to what they
| once were] dead now, and in part due to the general response found by
| these parties when they post... should the same be applied to those
| using Google Groups be applied? It has and is a deterrent to those users
| to post in these groups.
| Yet what do we now also find suggested... to post in Microsoft's
| private forums and communities... and direction to other private forums
| for other security/malware issues.
Actually you will find many knowledgable and experienced Usenet users completely
BLOCK/FILTER Google Groupers posts from being viewed.
Google is the #1 source of spam now on Usenet !
User get a FREE Gmail account then creates a FREE Blogger account the creates a FREE
Google Groups account the spams said blog Spot to Usenet.
I guess you already know why there is NO Win7 Microsoft.* news group. :-(
> Anoth friggen techarena.in idiot.
> Access to Usenet news groups is *best* performed using a NNTP
> (News) client and not the techarena.in crap.
>
> This news group can be accessed directly by the following
> News URL; news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.(...)
The path statement in the header of that "techarena.in" post indicates
that it was injected into usenet directly by a microsoft server.
It remains un-explained why Microsoft has this arrangement with
techarena.in and the various banter.com hierarchy of domains whereby
they are allowed to use microsoft's servers (MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl,
TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl, etc) to directly inject these completely useless
posts into usenet.
Well, I still have very few filters running, then again I no longer
monitor all the groups I once did. Moreover, Usenet itself certainly
has/had its own abusers, most of which moved over to the new social
networks for their brand of fun.
> Google is the #1 source of spam now on Usenet !
> User get a FREE Gmail account then creates a FREE Blogger account the creates a FREE
> Google Groups account the spams said blog Spot to Usenet.
>
> I guess you already know why there is NO Win7 Microsoft.* news group. :-(
>
>
Yeah, in part due to Usenet abusers, and in part to control potential
content to valid users. Similar to the original semi-private MS forums,
and those completely private that still exist. Its a shame we've come
full circle, back to control and moderation, but I can see where and why
the Usenet experiment became a failure in many corporation's eyes.
< snip >
| Yeah, in part due to Usenet abusers, and in part to control potential
| content to valid users. Similar to the original semi-private MS forums,
| and those completely private that still exist. Its a shame we've come
| full circle, back to control and moderation, but I can see where and why
| the Usenet experiment became a failure in many corporation's eyes.
Usenet wasn't/Isn't and experiment. It is one of the oldest facets of the Internet. NNTP
was never really updated to new standards and thus fell off to the wayside and Google
Groups is is major killer of what Google Groups connects to.
| "David H. Lipman" wrote:
There is a feed to Usenet but I don't think there is any "arrangement" with Microsoft as I
have also see techarena.in posts in the Alt.* hierarchy.
> If we constantly call them names or question their activities, they
> will likely stop participating altogether.
Well, it's worth a try. I'm in!
:oD
I have to laugh at that, the whole Internet experience/aspect is a
massive experiment. One needs merely look at the projected aspects to be
placed, such as cloud... once expected to be FOR the users, now just an
extension of advertising and designed usage. What a wonderful propaganda
and sales machine it turned out to be.
Okay,, but it never worked for Usenet abusers,, then again using these
techniques on non-trolls or other innocent users likely will drive away
further usage of these groups...
So is that what you really want?
| On 12/08/2009 09:03 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:
>> From: "MEB" <MEB-no...@hotmail.com>
>> < snip >
>> | Yeah, in part due to Usenet abusers, and in part to control potential
>> | content to valid users. Similar to the original semi-private MS forums,
>> | and those completely private that still exist. Its a shame we've come
>> | full circle, back to control and moderation, but I can see where and why
>> | the Usenet experiment became a failure in many corporation's eyes.
>> Usenet wasn't/Isn't and experiment. It is one of the oldest facets of the Internet.
>> NNTP
>> was never really updated to new standards and thus fell off to the wayside and Google
>> Groups is is major killer of what Google Groups connects to.
| I have to laugh at that, the whole Internet experience/aspect is a
| massive experiment. One needs merely look at the projected aspects to be
| placed, such as cloud... once expected to be FOR the users, now just an
| extension of advertising and designed usage. What a wonderful propaganda
| and sales machine it turned out to be.
LOL -- Great perspective ! :-)
> There is a feed to Usenet but I don't think there is any
> "arrangement" with Microsoft as I have also see techarena.in
> posts in the Alt.* hierarchy.
The fact remains that posting path of the techarena post and many other
such techarena and banter.com posts indicate that they originated from
the Microsoft usenet servers.
They are gateway'd through Microsoft's servers.
User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
You also seem to post via the microsoft servers when you post to (at
least this) microsoft newsgroup, but you use newsguy.com when you post
to, say, alt.comp.virus (why? Doesn't newsguy.com carry the microsoft
groups too?)
No, but it would be nice if they were indocrinated into the usenet style
by the gateway program. It would also be nice if they didn't keep three
year old posts sitting there as if they were just posted yesterday. The
creator(s) of the techarena.in site should get a clue and stop using old
usenet posts so that their "forum" appears to be "hopping" with
activity.
It appears to the user that MS MVP's post there - well...they post
*here*, and many of them probably dislike that place as much as I do.
(I was just kidding about calling all those idiots, idiots)
:oD
Well that's a bit short sighted, as without these archives it would be
difficult to find a lot of the self-help on the Internet that one now
does. On the other hand, it has helped slow the necessity for people TO
post help requests [decreasing Usenet traffic], particularly for old
issues, as they merely need to search the archives.
What HASN'T been addressed except the *new* OSs and *new* malware...
But I agree, it would be nice for these users to quote needed aspects
from the discussion for reference, but *there* its just the next message
in the forum as seen by those users. Is it their fault you deleted those
threads and messages, regardless of age or relevance...
So it revolves around your perspective; where you sit/where its viewed...
"FromTheRafters" <erratic @nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
news:%238qiuvH...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I had the same problem on my computer. I did a lot of research and
> finally found the company's phone number. I spoke to a customer service
> rep and they were actually very helpful. They helped me get the program
> off of my computer very easily. Their number is 1-800-831-8940 I hope
> this helps.
Wow, are you really up to speed. You are replying to an over 4-month old
thread. You think the OP is actually still around to see your response?
Next time when you want to reply, first check the datestamps.
Agreed. Except I feel that there are plenty of searchable usenet
archives that don't result in idiots posting responses to years old
posts. I'm not even suggesting deletion of old posts, but these web
based applications could easily prevent replying to old posts just as
the actual web based forum programs pronounce some topics as 'closed'.
If a poster needs to, he or she could quote the relevant portion of an
old post in a *new* post instead of just stating "I have the same
problem" or "here's how you fix it" without any references.
I'd have to agree with that. Locking the discussion could easily be
done, and should be if a final answer to that particular issue was provided.
Same for the new post, which should be done if some new variant of an
old issues has been found, or special individual help or explanation is
needed.
I have to state, that on most occasions such as the Fast Browser Search
and similar issues, DO NOT use the supposed numbers or contact the
supposed party for a fix, and do not click on any pop up for a supposed
fix. Use one of the known documented fixes and/or contact a TRUSTED
source for help BEFORE you attempt the contact or supposed fix that
might be provided as it may be malware, or it may be an attempt to force
personal contact.