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Dave "Crash" Dummy

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Oct 31, 2012, 6:24:16 AM10/31/12
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and why I don't want any tiles.

In Windows 7, I use a HTA script as an active desktop (see snapshot).
Not shown are a couple of menus that are activated with a mouseover.

I built this to replace the active desktop I had on my Windows 2000
machine and which no longer worked with Windows 7 because the active
desktop option was removed. So my question is, will my HTA script work
in Windows 8, or is Microsoft going to take that away, too?

snapshot: http://crash.thedatalist.com/temp/desktop.jpg
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Mayayana

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Oct 31, 2012, 10:23:49 AM10/31/12
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| So my question is, will my HTA script work
| in Windows 8, or is Microsoft going to take that away, too?
|

I tried some things on the Win8 RC and everything
seemed to be the same as Win7. It's my understanding
that MS is maintaining compatibility as much as possible.

I tried my own software. I think I also tried HTAs. I
don't remember for sure, but I don't see how MS could
break HTAs. They're really the only functionality left for
simple scripted GUIs, and they were originally aimed at
corporate IT people who want such things on their
intranets.

Of course, that all applies only to the actual Win8 Desktop.
Nothing will work in the Tile UI that's been glued onto the
normal Desktop UI. That window represents a limited, sandboxed
API wrapper that seems to be something like a browser kiosk
window. It may be that some tweaks will eventually be found
for that, but it seems unlikely. MS is trying to move toward a
non-customizable services UI. The only fixes I know of at
this point are "unapproved" 3rd-party utilities that will provide
a replica Start Menu and/or block the Tile UI from taking over
at boot.

A more intriguing question to me: What could it possibly
be that's inclining you to install Win8 in the first place? :)

PS - I think the Beta is good until January, so you could probably
still try that out if you want to. But be careful if you do. Later
versions of Windows can't be trusted to install only to a single
partition while leaving other partitons and the master boot record
alone. Also, Beta 1 is more flexible than Beta 2. (They have wacky
names that I don't remember now; something like Release Candidate
and Consumer Preview, I think.) I got the former to install on an
HP with 500 MB RAM, while the latter insisted on not only more
RAM but also a multi-core CPU! So I never actually tried the 2nd
beta.


Dave "Crash" Dummy

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Oct 31, 2012, 10:12:32 AM10/31/12
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Mayayana wrote:
> | So my question is, will my HTA script work | in Windows 8, or is
> Microsoft going to take that away, too? |
>
> I tried some things on the Win8 RC and everything seemed to be the
> same as Win7. It's my understanding that MS is maintaining
> compatibility as much as possible.
>
> I tried my own software. I think I also tried HTAs. I don't remember
> for sure, but I don't see how MS could break HTAs. They're really
> the only functionality left for simple scripted GUIs, and they were
> originally aimed at corporate IT people who want such things on their
> intranets.
>
> Of course, that all applies only to the actual Win8 Desktop. Nothing
> will work in the Tile UI that's been glued onto the normal Desktop
> UI. That window represents a limited, sandboxed API wrapper that
> seems to be something like a browser kiosk window. It may be that
> some tweaks will eventually be found for that, but it seems unlikely.
> MS is trying to move toward a non-customizable services UI. The only
> fixes I know of at this point are "unapproved" 3rd-party utilities
> that will provide a replica Start Menu and/or block the Tile UI from
> taking over at boot.

Understood. If (BIG!! "IF") I install Win8, it will be immediately followed
by Classic Shell.

> A more intriguing question to me: What could it possibly be that's
> inclining you to install Win8 in the first place? :)

Not so inclined, at the moment. Just exploring. Answers to questions
like this are part of the process. I would be really pissed if I
installed Windows 8 and none of my many HTA scripts didn't work.

> PS - I think the Beta is good until January, so you could probably
> still try that out if you want to. But be careful if you do. Later
> versions of Windows can't be trusted to install only to a single
> partition while leaving other partitons and the master boot record
> alone. Also, Beta 1 is more flexible than Beta 2. (They have wacky
> names that I don't remember now; something like Release Candidate and
> Consumer Preview, I think.) I got the former to install on an HP
> with 500 MB RAM, while the latter insisted on not only more RAM but
> also a multi-core CPU! So I never actually tried the 2nd beta.

According to a posting in alt.comp.os.windows-8 ("Licence keys" 10/30),
Windows 8 can be installed as a second OS, dual booting with Windows 7.

At this stage and at this price, I will just buy it if I decide to try it.

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