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David Marcovitz

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Mar 24, 2009, 10:34:51 AM3/24/09
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In article <8F781FCC-8992-4D67...@microsoft.com>,
cjb <c...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> I've created a series of .ppt files and exported them as PDF files. Each file
> contains links to other PDF files or other pages within the PDF file. I have
> one page in one of .ppt files that will not allow me to successfully add
> hyperlinks. When I tell it to add the links, it acts as though it will and
> lets me choose the file or page to link to. I have tried deleting the links,
> then reassigned them a couple of times. Nothing works. Any ideas?


Are you saying that you can't link from this page to other pages? That
is odd. If you can't link TO a specific page, the problem is usually
because that page has commas in the title. If all your links get messed
up, it might be that you have too many hyperlinks (it doesn't seem like
this is the problem). I have never heard of not being able to link FROM
a particular page. Here are some questions:

(1) What version of PowerPoint are you using?
(2) Can you link to things from other slides created after this one?
(3) Are you doing the linking before the conversion to PDF or after?
(4) What happens if you recreate the slide and try linking?

--David

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cjb

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Mar 24, 2009, 11:43:02 AM3/24/09
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Thanks for the post David. I finally figured out a work-around though not
what I'd planned. I had built a button in Photoshop that I was hyperlinking
from PDF file to PDF file (yes, I did the links before export to PDF).

The links that were not working were jumps to different pages within one
.ppt generated PDF. I rebuilt the page and using the buttons and it still did
not work. I discarded the buttons and links to text on the page and the links
worked. Go figure? So the problem stems just from linking within one .ppt
file.
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Thanks, cjb

David Marcovitz

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Mar 24, 2009, 2:10:02 PM3/24/09
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Well, as I said, the two known issues for linking within a PPT file are:

(1) linking to a slide with a comma in the title does not work; remove
the comma from the title and relink (some have reported that you can
then put the comma back in).

(2) having too many hyperlinks as PowerPoint has a (hidden) limit on the
amount of space it has to store hyperlink information.

I'm not aware of any other linking issues. Actually, here are a few more:

(3) If you are linking an object and you link text within that object
instead of the object, then only the text will be the link.

(4) If you put any shape over an object (my students sometimes put text
boxes over objects instead of adding text to objects), the covered part
of the object won't link.

(5) If the shape you are linking is transparent, some versions of
PowerPoint and the Viewer will let you click on it and some won't.

--David

In article <4C4002AC-92D1-4A7D...@microsoft.com>,

Steve Rindsberg

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Mar 24, 2009, 3:30:04 PM3/24/09
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In article <4C4002AC-92D1-4A7D...@microsoft.com>, Cjb wrote:
> Thanks for the post David. I finally figured out a work-around though not
> what I'd planned. I had built a button in Photoshop that I was hyperlinking
> from PDF file to PDF file (yes, I did the links before export to PDF).
>
> The links that were not working were jumps to different pages within one
> ..ppt generated PDF. I rebuilt the page and using the buttons and it still did
> not work. I discarded the buttons and links to text on the page and the links
> worked. Go figure? So the problem stems just from linking within one .ppt
> file.

I'm unclear on something: is it the links in the PPT that aren't working or is
it the links in the PDF generated FROM the PPT that aren't working?


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sharoncarver

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Nov 12, 2009, 4:42:10 PM11/12/09
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I'm hitting the limit in Powerpoint 2007. I've broken my presentation into several smaller presentations, but it is still an issue. Do you know of any workaround or if the limit can be removed? I have 36 links. All 36 are on one slide, then the small presentations each have six slides and there's six small presentations. Thirty-six doesn't seem like that many, but I'm also using lots of graphics - does that have an effect. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated!

David Marcovitz wrote:

Re: Hyperlink dilemna
24-Mar-09

Well, as I said, the two known issues for linking within a PPT file are:

(1) linking to a slide with a comma in the title does not work; remove
the comma from the title and relink (some have reported that you can
then put the comma back in).

(2) having too many hyperlinks as PowerPoint has a (hidden) limit on the
amount of space it has to store hyperlink information.

I'm not aware of any other linking issues. Actually, here are a few more:

(3) If you are linking an object and you link text within that object
instead of the object, then only the text will be the link.

(4) If you put any shape over an object (my students sometimes put text
boxes over objects instead of adding text to objects), the covered part
of the object won't link.

(5) If the shape you are linking is transparent, some versions of
PowerPoint and the Viewer will let you click on it and some won't.

--David

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On Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:28 AM
cj wrote:

Hyperlink dilemna


I've created a series of .ppt files and exported them as PDF files. Each file
contains links to other PDF files or other pages within the PDF file. I have
one page in one of .ppt files that will not allow me to successfully add
hyperlinks. When I tell it to add the links, it acts as though it will and
lets me choose the file or page to link to. I have tried deleting the links,
then reassigned them a couple of times. Nothing works. Any ideas?

--
Thanks, cjb

On Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:34 AM
David Marcovitz wrote:

Re: Hyperlink dilemna

Are you saying that you can't link from this page to other pages? That
is odd. If you can't link TO a specific page, the problem is usually
because that page has commas in the title. If all your links get messed
up, it might be that you have too many hyperlinks (it doesn't seem like
this is the problem). I have never heard of not being able to link FROM
a particular page. Here are some questions:

(1) What version of PowerPoint are you using?
(2) Can you link to things from other slides created after this one?
(3) Are you doing the linking before the conversion to PDF or after?
(4) What happens if you recreate the slide and try linking?

--David

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David Marcovitz
Microsoft PowerPoint MVP
Author of _Powerful PowerPoint for Educators_
http://www.PowerfulPowerPoint.com/

On Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:43 AM
cj wrote:

Thanks for the post David.
Thanks for the post David. I finally figured out a work-around though not
what I'd planned. I had built a button in Photoshop that I was hyperlinking
from PDF file to PDF file (yes, I did the links before export to PDF).

The links that were not working were jumps to different pages within one

..ppt generated PDF. I rebuilt the page and using the buttons and it still did

not work. I discarded the buttons and links to text on the page and the links
worked. Go figure? So the problem stems just from linking within one .ppt
file.
--
Thanks, cjb


"David Marcovitz" wrote:

On Tuesday, March 24, 2009 2:10 PM
David Marcovitz wrote:

Re: Hyperlink dilemna


Well, as I said, the two known issues for linking within a PPT file are:

(1) linking to a slide with a comma in the title does not work; remove
the comma from the title and relink (some have reported that you can
then put the comma back in).

(2) having too many hyperlinks as PowerPoint has a (hidden) limit on the
amount of space it has to store hyperlink information.

I'm not aware of any other linking issues. Actually, here are a few more:

(3) If you are linking an object and you link text within that object
instead of the object, then only the text will be the link.

(4) If you put any shape over an object (my students sometimes put text
boxes over objects instead of adding text to objects), the covered part
of the object won't link.

(5) If the shape you are linking is transparent, some versions of
PowerPoint and the Viewer will let you click on it and some won't.

--David

On Tuesday, March 24, 2009 3:30 PM
Steve Rindsberg wrote:

Re: Hyperlink dilemna

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Lucy Thomson

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Nov 12, 2009, 4:56:42 PM11/12/09
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Hi

Have a look here:
Lost hyperlinks, hyperlinks link to wrong place, hyperlinks stop working
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00401.htm

If I were you I would read the whole thing - certainly make it to the last
sentence :-)

Lucy

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David Marcovitz

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Nov 13, 2009, 9:28:01 AM11/13/09
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Sharon,

Thirty-six links doesn't seem like that much. However, the size of links is
based on the slide title, not just the number of links because there is a
storage limit for how much space to store links, not the number of links,
and slide titles are included in the space. One possible workaround is to
shorten your slide titles. However, I am skeptical that you are hitting the
link limit, rather than running into some other problem.

--David

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"<sharon carver>" <> wrote:

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Steve Rindsberg

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Nov 13, 2009, 10:44:58 AM11/13/09
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> Thirty-six links doesn't seem like that much. However, the size of links is
> based on the slide title, not just the number of links because there is a
> storage limit for how much space to store links, not the number of links,

And fwiw, you'll hear 64k bandied about as the storage limit.
It's not. The MS KB page on this starts out babbling about 64k worth of storage
for something or other that's not relevant.

It goes on to say that only half of that is available for something other vaguely
described thing.

And then it mentions that more than half of that half is allocated to something
other than links.

So now we're down less than half of half of 64k. < 16k.

And that's shared with various (mostly unspecified) OTHER stuff. Custom doc
properties is the only one I know of.

But assuming that custom doc properties are not in use, 16k over 36 slides works
out to well over 400 characters per slide title. So this is well founded:

Echo S

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Nov 13, 2009, 12:09:40 PM11/13/09
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But the poster says she's using PPT 2007, and it isn't supposed to have this
link limit.

There are, though, issues with linking to "previous slide," and "next
slide," and that type of thing as opposed to just linking to a specific
slide number. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926953 Apparently this is
an issue when saving as 97-2003 format, though.

Of course, saving as a PPT (97-2003 format file) instead of a PPTX could
indeed invoke the hyperlink limit as well as cause the aforementioned issue.
But again, saving as PPTX is *supposed* to make this not be a problem.

That said, what am I missing?

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Steve Rindsberg

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Nov 13, 2009, 12:48:09 PM11/13/09
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In article <OW4lXQIZ...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, Echo S wrote:
> But the poster says she's using PPT 2007, and it isn't supposed to have this
> link limit.

I can find MSDocs that say that there's no limit on links to external files
after 2002 and vaguely recall something about internal links supposedly being
fixed in 2007 but haven't seen anything that explicitly says so.

So I think you may be right, but Got URL? ;-)

Then too, HOW many times has the Red-X problem been banished for good now?

> There are, though, issues with linking to "previous slide," and "next
> slide," and that type of thing as opposed to just linking to a specific
> slide number. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926953 Apparently this is
> an issue when saving as 97-2003 format, though.
>
> Of course, saving as a PPT (97-2003 format file) instead of a PPTX could
> indeed invoke the hyperlink limit as well as cause the aforementioned issue.
> But again, saving as PPTX is *supposed* to make this not be a problem.

And if the file were either backsaved or opened in an earlier version with the
compat pack installed (implicit backsave), the links could get hosed. And stay
hosed when the file's opened again in 2007 and resaved as PPTX.

IOW, if you don't know the history of the file, it's hard to say.

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