IE6 restoring open - save attachment dialog to preview pane
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When using the paper clip in the preview pane, a dialog is presented each
time prompting to either Save or Open attachments. There's also an option to
disable it or 'not show it next time' I don't recall the exact wording.
I disabled it to confirm images would open by default using an external
viewer, which they do, and went to restore the prompt but don't find the
damn thing anywhere.
I checked Tools in OE and IE6 and don't see anything. Even checked TFM and
it describes how to open or save attachments but makes no mention at all of
disabling the dialog. I paged through Google and found discussions of
everything but that. Anyone know where to re-enable this? Thanks.
Bruce Hagen
Start | Run and type in:
regedit
OK | HKEY_CURRENT_USER | Identities | GUID (Long series of letters &
numbers) | Software | Microsoft | Outlook Express | 5.0 | Don't Show
Dialogs.
Find the correct one in the right hand pane and delete it, or change the
value to 0, (zero).
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA
"none used" <no...@none.none> wrote in message
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none used
"Bruce Hagen" <Nos...@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
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> Navigate to this key:
snip
>Find the correct one in the right hand pane and delete it, or change the
>value to 0, (zero).
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I don't see an obvious choice although I
did manage to toggle the Toolbar off and on. ;) Here's an alphabetical list
of what's there if anyone can spot it I'd be most grateful. I looked through
the other keys underneath and didn't see anything there either.
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{**********}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook
Express\5.0]
Background Compaction=
BodyBarPos=
Browser Bands=
BrowserPos=
Contact Pane Sorting=
ConvertedToDBX=
Dial During Poll=
Email Security Zone=
Expand Unread=
ExpungeFolders=
FindPos=
FixedPOP3UidlFile=
Hangup After Spool=
HideFolderBar=
Launch Inbox=
Message List Tips=
Migration Done=
MSIMN=
Nav Pane Split=
Nav Pane Width=
Note Bands=
Outlook Bar Settings=
Preview Message=
PrevToolbarTextStyle=
Read in Plain Text only=
Reply To Messages In Original Format=
RequestMDN=
Running=
Save Attachment Path=
Saved Toolbar Settings Version=
Saved Toolbar Settings=
SendMDN=
SendReceiptToList=
Settings Upgraded=
Show Contacts=
Show Deleted Messages=
Show Outlook Bar=
Show Replies To My Messages=
Show Source Editing=
ShowBodyBar=
ShowStatus=
ShowToolbarIEAK=
Signature Flags=
SpellDontIgnoreDBCS=
SpoolerDlgPos=
SpoolerTack=
Store Root=
StoreMigratedV5=
SwitchConnectionPrompt=
Tip of the Day=
Toolbar Icon Size=
Toolbar Text=
Tree=
Use AutoComplete=
VerStamp=
Watched Message Color=
Bruce Hagen
"none used" <no...@none.none> wrote in message
You missed one step. You clicked on the reg key 5.0 if you are seeing that
in the right hand pane. In the folder tree below the 5.0 key you will see,
among other keys, Rules, Signatures, Blocked Senders, and the important:
Don't Show Dialogs. You need to click on this key to get its contents in the
right hand pane.
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"Bruce Hagen" <Nos...@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>
> You missed one step. You clicked on the reg key 5.0 if you are seeing that
> in the right hand pane. In the folder tree below the 5.0 key you will see,
> among other keys, Rules, Signatures, Blocked Senders, and the important:
> Don't Show Dialogs. You need to click on this key to get its contents in
the
> right hand pane.
That's actually how I read it at first but decided I'd misunderstood when I
saw that one doesn't exist here. This is what I do see, and appreciate your
time.
- Outlook Express
- 5.0
+ Block Senders
Columns
MailNote
NewNote
News
Recent Stationery List
Recent Stationery Wide List
+ Rules
signatures
+ Trident
Bruce Hagen
"none used" <no...@none.none> wrote in message
OK. That is where you should see it.
Just to clarify, you are not using the problem machine to post. Is this
correct? I ask because your post suggests Win XP/SP2 and your posting
machine is not XP. Win 2K possibly?
In Regedit, is there more than one identity listed? Is it possible that you
are not looking in the correct one?
The Do Not Show Dialogs key is not in the registry by default, but it should
be automatically created the very first time you check a Do Not Show Me This
Again box in OE for such a warning, but only for the identity in use at the
time.
If you only have one identity listed in Regedit, and are only using/have one
identity in OE, then the only option right now would be to create a new
identity to cure the problem.
You may have a damaged identity especially if it is the default Main
Identity. File | Identity | Add New Identity. Create a new one and test it.
If all is well, you can import your messages and Address Book from the old
identity and delete it.
How to Create and Use Identities in Outlook Express
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=209169
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"Bruce Hagen" <Nos...@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>
snip
>
> OK. That is where you should see it.
>
> Just to clarify, you are not using the problem machine to post. Is this
> correct? I ask because your post suggests Win XP/SP2 and your posting
> machine is not XP. Win 2K possibly?
>
reason for the exersize was to answer a question for someone else and
I wanted to go through it once to see what was involved. The old
computer was the easiest way to get a look.
The original question was how to use an external viewer for graphics by
default.
> In Regedit, is there more than one identity listed? Is it possible that
you
> are not looking in the correct one?
>
No just one. Anything's possible but in this case I couldn't make that
mistake.
Here's a small screenshot.
http://i37.tinypic.com/34qskeu.gif
> The Do Not Show Dialogs key is not in the registry by default, but it
should
> be automatically created the very first time you check a Do Not Show Me
This
> Again box in OE for such a warning, but only for the identity in use at
the
> time.
>
Thank you, I did some reading and apparently Outlook uses the same approach.
Switch it off in the GUI and back on in the registry. It would be difficult
to describe
my opinion of that in a family group, half-baked doesn't do it justice.
Re-enabling
all of them should really be included in the Tools function.
> If you only have one identity listed in Regedit, and are only using/have
one
> identity in OE, then the only option right now would be to create a new
> identity to cure the problem.
>
I can tell you on that installation there has only ever been one identity.
> You may have a damaged identity especially if it is the default Main
> Identity. File | Identity | Add New Identity. Create a new one and test
it.
> If all is well, you can import your messages and Address Book from the old
> identity and delete it.
>
Don't know if I'll get to it tonight but I will post the results. Thanks
again for
the info and prompt replies, you saved a whole lot of time.
> How to Create and Use Identities in Outlook Express
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=209169
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"none used" <no...@none.none> wrote in message
>
snip
>
> > You may have a damaged identity especially if it is the default Main
> > Identity. File | Identity | Add New Identity. Create a new one and test
> it.
> > If all is well, you can import your messages and Address Book from the
old
> > identity and delete it.
> >
to a newsgroup. Opened regedit and the "Dont Show Dialogs" key is there
now with 2 entries. hmm
Reply to News Warning
Send News Warning
Bruce Hagen
"none used" <no...@none.none> wrote in message
And it keeps on getting stranger. From your OP:
<qp>
I disabled it to confirm images would open by default using an external
viewer, which they do, and went to restore the prompt but don't find the
damn thing anywhere.
</qp>
Did you disable the prompt in the exact same way as you just did now by
checking the box: "Do not show........"?
Is this OE6 or 5x? I wouldn't think there should be a difference in this
area.
Create a new identity. You need not enter all the account details to test. I
just want to see if the missing prompt shows in a new ID, which it should.
user one
"Bruce Hagen" <Nos...@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>
snip
>
> And it keeps on getting stranger. From your OP:
>
> <qp>
> I disabled it to confirm images would open by default using an external
> viewer, which they do, and went to restore the prompt but don't find the
> damn thing anywhere.
> </qp>
>
> Did you disable the prompt in the exact same way as you just did now by
> checking the box: "Do not show........"?
>
> Is this OE6 or 5x? I wouldn't think there should be a difference in this
> area.
>
OE6
Header shows:
Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
Help/About shows:
Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123
It should be patched to whatever level WUD offered sometime back, but
I can't say when without checking the history. I probably should have said
for me personally OE has been on the shelf as a bad memory for a very
long time.
> Create a new identity. You need not enter all the account details to test.
I
> just want to see if the missing prompt shows in a new ID, which it should.
Done. Yes the "Open Attachment Warning" was displayed to the new
identity when opening an attachment in the preview frame. Wonderful.
OK. Disabled this again in the New Identity and checked the registry.
There is no "Do Not Show Dialogs" key for the New Identity. I think
at this point the isssue becomes 'how bad do you want to know?'.
I don't mind running an issue down and certainly appreciate your interest,
but think about what's going on here. Sure feels like debugging to me
and for what? To toggle a security feature back on. It's taking
newsgroup support, registry editing, and a complete reconfiguring
of the app to set up a new identity. That fails it flat for intuitive and is
fixing to fail it on doability. I can see tech support at this point
starting
to reach for the 'reinstall Windows' button. :-/ Bugger!
Question: OE imported e-mail messages from the main identity easily
but I didn't find an option to import News. Is that not possible?
Thanks again,
Ron Sommer
"user one" <no...@none.none> wrote in message
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News neither Imports or Exports.
--
Ronald Sommer
Bruce Hagen
news:rM2dnXfravEs4TvV...@giganews.com...
You can export and import the news accounts, but groups will have to be
subscribed to once again.
You should not see the Don't Show Dialogues key in the new identity unless
you have checked your first Do Not Show Me This Again box. Why it wasn't
there in your old ID is a mystery, but stranger things have happened with
OE.
If you can live without the prompt is your choice. Could/should it be easier
to toggle on and off? Maybe, but the OE team was disbanded in 2006 as OE in
no longer being produced, so even a protest by every user of OE would not
make it happen.
Michael Santovec
It's call Confirm Open after download.
See the Identifying Attachment File Types and Setting File Associations
section of
Decoding Internet Attachments - A Tutorial
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/decode.htm#identify
--
Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
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"Michael Santovec" <michael_...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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> That setting is in the Windows File Associations for each file type.
> It's call Confirm Open after download.
>
it off without even closing Outlook Express and the dialog was not
presented.
I would never have made the connection that mail and news attachments are
considered downloads in this respect. Thank you so much for the solution.
> See the Identifying Attachment File Types and Setting File Associations
> section of
> Decoding Internet Attachments - A Tutorial
> http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/decode.htm#identify
>
That page may be the first complete treatment of the subject I saw. Can't
remember how long ago that's been but it's still an often referred site in
the binary groups and on other web pages as well.
Thanks again for your time and the reply.
none used
"Ron Sommer" <rso...@nospam.ktis.net> wrote in message
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>
snip
> >
> News neither Imports or Exports.
Thanks for the confirmation, it's easy to overlook things. Seems like I've
read .dbx can be introduced in a way that makes them usable, but guess that
would be a different topic and probably explained elsewhere.
none used
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>
> You can export and import the news accounts, but groups will have to
> be subscribed to once again.
>
> You should not see the Don't Show Dialogues key in the new identity
> unless you have checked your first Do Not Show Me This Again box. Why
> it wasn't there in your old ID is a mystery, but stranger things have
> happened with OE.
>
Mysteries can be fun so long as you can still boot, glad to say I
learned several things from this one.
> If you can live without the prompt is your choice. Could/should it be
> easier to toggle on and off? Maybe, but the OE team was disbanded in
> 2006 as OE in no longer being produced, so even a protest by every
> user of OE would not make it happen.
Sorry, it's not my intention to nit pick OE, even with the prompt disabled
'Save Attachments' is still available and that would be convenient for me.
Actually when a person is using it for binary groups and the Preview Window
is used, the attachment has already been opened in order to display an
image. In that case I don't see the difference in sending it to an external
app.
I see even in that state there's another dialog which can't be disabled if
the attachment is an .exe or .scr that forces the choice of save or open.
That would still protect a person from inadvertantly opening one with a
deceptive filename even if they have disabled the initial prompt.
Those were the only two I tested and I should probably make the effort to
verify it works for the whole list of dangerous file types but suppose
that's a question for another thread. Thanks again for the help.
Bruce Hagen
wasn't a simple Don't Show This Again warning as I misinterpreted. Too many
cooks may spoil the broth, but two heads, or more, are a definite plus in a
newsgroup.
<qp>
Sorry, it's not my intention to nit pick OE, even with the prompt disabled
'Save Attachments' is still available and that would be convenient for me.
</qp>
Nothing to be sorry about. I am no advocate for Outlook Express or MS in
general. Just wanted to let you know that there will never be any changes in
OE. Heck, the Windows Mail team was disbanded at the same time. (Smells to
me that MS realized that WinMail was not going to be the savior e-mail
client very early on).
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA
"none used" <no...@none.none> wrote in message
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Michael Santovec
The setting is really geared for IE. And then OE piggybacked on it for
similar effect, as it does for other things in IE such as print settings
and HTML rendering.
--
Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
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> You're welcome. I'm glad Michael came to the rescue. As he realized,
> it wasn't a simple Don't Show This Again warning as I misinterpreted.
> Too many cooks may spoil the broth, but two heads, or more, are a
> definite plus in a newsgroup.
>
> <qp>
> Sorry, it's not my intention to nit pick OE, even with the prompt
> disabled 'Save Attachments' is still available and that would be
> convenient for me. </qp>
>
> Nothing to be sorry about. I am no advocate for Outlook Express or MS
> in general. Just wanted to let you know that there will never be any
> changes in OE. Heck, the Windows Mail team was disbanded at the same
> time. (Smells to me that MS realized that WinMail was not going to be
> the savior e-mail client very early on).
>
Have always kept tabs on OE but that's news to me about Windows Mail. A
person would need to overlook a lot to not acknowledge OE as a pretty fair
e-mail getter especially for the price. My main objection as a non-user are
the near hysterics it continues to generate in users each time they
see--Code! You'd think they saw a friggin' ghost, still. It would be a great
thing if they were directing one another to 3rd party solutions but I find
that isn't often the case. The thought has occured to me that if MS were
ever called into question for creating a filesharing app, they would have a
good defense. ;)
Nothing to do with you though. The OP is ecstatic, single-click full screen
graphics, no more scrolling, and one less shriek. I'd call that full
resolution of the issue.
Thanks again.