Backing up email settings
NJITGS
Using the Windows NT Backup utility, could anyone tell me what folder or
folders I would browse to to back up my OE 6 Message Rules and other
settings?
Elaine Beauxrauxgard-Weiderhoff
Ron Sommer
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the registry location where they are stored so that they may be backed up?
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http://www.insideoe.com/files/regkeys.htm
Also see http://www.insideoe.com/backup/partial.htm
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Bruce Hagen
other regulars usually suggest OEQB for backing up Outlook Express.
I see from your post in XP General there seems not to be any support for
Windows NT Backup.
If you want to backup OE now and are not concerned with a previous backup,
then I will suggest this program. I have no user knowledge of Windows NT
Backup.
This freeware tool backs up everything in OE in seconds. Disregard what is
written in red. That is referring to a different program.
Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB):
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
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NJITGS
rules and other settings in addition to the actual emails?
FYI- To access the Windows NT Back Utility:
Start> Run> Type: ntbackup
If for some reason it is not located, it was not unpacked with the initial
set up of your computer. To set it up:
Start> All Programs> PC Help & Tools (or wherever the manufacturer or your
computer puts it's utilities), and select Application Recovery. When the
Application Recovery Manager opens select Application Installation and
browse for the Microsoft Valueadd Folder, highlight it and click next. This
will install the Valueadd Folder to the C: drive of your computer. After it
has successfully installed on your computer open My Computer from the Start
Menu and browse to the C: drive where you will see the i386 folder, open it
and look for the MSFT folder, from there browse through the folders, as each
computer is set up a little differntly, and look for the folder titled
NTBKUP, once there, install it as you would any other application file. If
after installing the Valueadd Folder you are not able to locate the NTBACKUP
installation file, you migh just want to click Start> Run, Type ntbackup and
see if it was automatically installed when you installed the Valueadd
Folder.
Windows Backup Utility is an excellent progam for backing up files and
folders. It allows you to even schedule back ups in advance with its
scheduler. You just browse whatever folders you wish to backup and select
the location to back them up and it creates it's own backup file that you
can click on to open and follow the instructions for restoring the files
wherever and however you choose.
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and even your customized toolbar settings. The only thing it doesn't backup
is your passwords which only take seconds to re-enter should you have to.
I use it and have used it after reformatting and it makes getting OE back
the way you had it a breeze. Not that it matters, but it was written by
Majik, (David Guess), a longtime OE-MVP.
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Google cache of my post:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general/msg/a75a8b3412f59712
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NJITGS wrote:
> Reviewing all of your responses to my thread I do not see it anywhere.
>
>> It was posted in this thread and should be available to you right now.
>>
>> Google cache of my post:
>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general/msg/a75a8b3412f59712
>> NJITGS wrote:
>>> Would you be kind enough to copy and paste it to this thread....?
>>>
NJITGS
This tool is great for backing up Outlook Express settings, thank you!
However I am experiencing an issue when restoring the backup. What happends
is that it seems to currupt the OE program itself because after restoring
the backup it does not allow me to save passwords in the user accounts in
the in setup options. It will not allow me to save the passord for a
particular account unless I first tig the box to save the password and even
then it does not accept it or remember it.
Does anyone else know about this or how to fix it? I would really like to
continue to use the handy tool thast not only backs up email but OE settings
as well.
Happy New Year!
Elanie Beauxrauxgard-Weiderhoff
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When you use Restore, passwords have to be re-entered. They are not saves
with this tool.
Unless you have lost messages or reinstalled your OS, there is no reason
to use the restore option. I hope you are not using this as a means to
archive folders and messages and then just bring them back when you want
to see them. That is not the purpose of a backup program.
OEQB Instructions:
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/oeqb.htm
Outlook Express keeps prompting for your password
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_oe_passwords.htm
Save password setting not retained in Outlook or Outlook Express:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290684
Cannot Save E-Mail Account Password in Outlook Express 5
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=228713
Save Password Check Box Is Unavailable
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=137361
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NJITGS
Recently I have had to do Destructive Restore of someone's computer and I
used the OEQB tool to backup the OE settings and after they were restored I
was no longer able to save the passwords in the OE settings. What would
happen is that it will not allow me to enter the password in the OE account
setup unless I first tigged the box to save the password, then when I did
and entered the password it does not recognise or remember the password.
It seems to me that the tool is actually corrupting OE.
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at the relative password links.
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contacted my computers manufacturer, but why does it happen to begin with...
Thank you again.
E B-W
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Bruce Hagen
I don't know what caused it to happen, but it sometimes does, and that
includes users that do not have OEQB. Passwords can become corrupt from
time to time.
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Aside from Add/Remove Programs console to uninstall Outlook Express, could
anyone tell me how to either repair or it completely uninstall it from my
system?
Recently I have had to do a destructive restore of my computer with the
recovery disks and regrettably used the Outlook Express Quick Backup tool
mentioned earlier in this thread with disastrous results. First of all upon
reinstalling my operating system I reinstalled OEQB and ran the restore from
the backup I created with it from another drive and unfortunately when I had
browsed OEQB to that backup file it would not restore the complete OE
catalog that I had successfully backed up earlier, it seemed to only restore
the primary default folders (inbox, deleted sent ect.). So the next thing I
did was manually open the OEQB file that I had backed up and manually
re-entered the registry file from the Bu with the user settings. Now it
seems for some reason the email accounts that I had previously set up and
backed up with OEQB were disappearing and every time I had attempted to
recreate certain email accounts in OE they would either fail or also
disappear after restart of OE or reboot of my computer.
Now that I've established that my new installation and recovery of my
computer is completely corrupted I need to know what to do to reset OE.
Uninstalling it and reinstalling it from the A/R console doesn't seen to
completely remove it from my system so that I only have to restore OE and
that I don't have to do another D-Restore of my computer. What I need to
know is how to completely reset and restore OE so that I don't have to do
another D-Restore of my entire system.
Please help...!
E B-W
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operating system. In short, you cannot remove OE and then install a new
OE.
By destructive restore, do you mean a reformat/reinstall of the OS? Was OE
OK until you tried to restore the OEQB backup? I have done this quite a
few times.
Copy the OEQB contents folder, (The folder you created when you installed
OEQB), to a flash drive.
Reinstall the OS. OE is now as it would be on a new machine.
Install OEQB.
Copy the OEQB folder from the backup media to the Desktop.
Open OEQB.
Click on File and then Set Existing Folder As Backup.
Click Complete Restore.
OE should be exactly how it was with the one exception that you have to
re-enter your account passwords.
++++++++++
Do you still have an OEQB backup like this? If you completely wipe out any
existing identities, restoring in the above manner should get everything
back, provided you backed up OEQB correctly to start with.
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for my computer is exactly what I did so that everything was restored to
their original state.
I have an external hard drive that I backed everything up to prior to the
D-R and it's in place including the back-up folder I created with OEQB.
What I did is I reinstalled OEQB and selected Quick Restore and selected the
Admin folder. Then when none of my email folders or their files showed up
after, I manually double clicked on the registry files that OEQB created in
the Main Identity folder with the original B-u and that seemed to put my
settings back in place.
Fortunately I safeguarded myself since I am new to OEQB and also backed up
my OE email with the Windows B-u Utility. However, that only backed up the
actually email files but not my settings and the now dozens of Message Rules
that I have created over the years or the multiple email accounts which I
feel are as equally important...
OEQB would be an awesome great tool to have for this particular reason, -if
only I could get it to work for me...
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read this in the link I posted earlier in this thread?
From: http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/oeqb.htm
Restore to another computer or new setup of Windows
Let's say you get a new computer. You want to move everything over to it.
Or, for whatever reason you are going to reinstall Windows. You want
Outlook Express the way you had it.
If you are going to reinstall Windows, I suggest you use a CD to put the
files on after backup. Some of the DBX files can be quite large and you
may have to use more than one CD to accomplish this. Remember, when the
files are stored on a CD, the Read Only attribute gets set, when you put
them on the new setup, you may have to remove this but more about this
further down the road. You could also use a second hard drive if
available.
If you have a new computer, consider networking them or putting the hard
drive from the old computer as a Slave on the new one. It makes copying
the backup folder much faster and easier.
However you backup the files you will need to copy them to a backup folder
(of the same name and usually the same drive location).
One other thing of note, are the Outlook Express versions the same? If the
new set up is older, update Internet Explorer and Outlook Express before
proceeding further. Plus not starting Outlook Express on the new set up or
have Outlook Express running on the one you are wanting to duplicate. Just
don't run it till after all of this is done.
If you copied the files from a CD, you may have to reset the Read Only
attribute. Outlook Express will not operate with this set. It will create
new message stores which isn't what you want to have happen.
Open the backup folder in Windows Explorer. Press CTRL A to select all
files (highlights all of them). Now, right click and select Properties. If
you see the Read Only checkbox checked, uncheck it. For Windows 9x, you
will have to open the Identity's folder and do the same (CTRL A then right
click) as it won't reset all the files like Windows XP and 2000 can.
Usually from a Windows XP, the Read Only will be reset to off after
copying from a CD to the hard drive.
The files are ready. OEQB is installed(?). Have you started Outlook
Express? If you have, do you have any mail that you want to keep in there?
Run OEQB and set another folder for backup and backup the files to it. We
can use this to import back into Outlook Express when the main files have
been restored to the new setup. Once done, set OEQB's backup folder back
to the one where the files we want to use are stored.
Close Outlook Express.
Run OEQB. Be sure the backup folder is set where you want it. If so, press
the Complete Restore button.
When it is finished, you can start OE. You will have to enter your
account passwords back in as they are not retained. You should now see
Outlook Express as you had it before.
While this sounds like a lot, it's just that it takes a lot of words to
write it down. It's actually just some file copying, a folder creation and
pressing a couple of buttons but if I put it like that, it doesn't mean
the same. To put it in a nutshell, without all the explanation:
1) Install OEQB
2) Create a folder for the backed up files. Make it's name the same as the
one from which the backed up files are coming from.
3) Copy the files to the backup folder.
4) Run OEQB
5) Set the backup folder location in OEQB - File | Set Existing Folder
As Backup
6) Press the Complete Restore button.
See, told you it wasn't much.
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NJITGS
Yes, the original back-up that I created with OEQB is still on the external
drive. Backing up was not the problem, I confirmed this by browsing to the
Main Identity folder and looking through it found that all the individual
email files and folders are in there including the registry files. Problem
was getting OEQB to restore them.
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Part of the OE Registry settings include the user name.
You have to be in the same windows user name for OEQB to be able to restore.
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Copy the backup to the internal hard drive and clear any read only
attributes of the files. Then delete the existing registry keys (back them
up first to be safe -- see www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx) and then click on
each reg file that OEQB generated to restore those keys from the backup.
Then copy the dbx files to the message store location specified under the
Identities key as the store root so that it is in the exact place OE will
look for it. Then start OE and see if that works.
steve
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