Solution(partial)to xpsp3 compact bug
אמיר
does not hang on Folders.dbx after installing SP3 for XP:
Go to the Maintenance tab->Make sure Empty messages from the 'Deleted Items'
folder on exit option is UNchecked->close OE and problem solved
http://www.omeganet.ca/support/tips-n-tricks/images-oec/16-Outlook-Express-Options-Maintenance.jpg
BUT the fix causes another problem- you can no longer use the above option :(
any idea how to still Empty messages from the 'Deleted Items' folder on
exit???
Bruce Hagen
Folders.dbx and "Empty Deleted Items........." has never been checked. You
got lucky.
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folders manually (ALT+F+F+F).
To avoid such problems, adhere to the following caveats:
- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.
- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not attempt to
close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic Compacting
is taking place.
- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional protection:
Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
PS: See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525
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Items' folder on exit " option....
Any idea?
"Bruce Hagen" wrote:
> You're fix is a fluke for your machine. My XP machine will hang on
> Folders.dbx and "Empty Deleted Items........." has never been checked. You
> got .
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>
> "אמיר" <@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> >I found this solution it works fine for me- so auto. compact works fine
> >and
> > does not hang on Folders.dbx after installing SP3 for XP:
> > Go to the Maintenance tab->Make sure Empty messages from the 'Deleted
> > Items'
> > folder on exit option is UNchecked->close OE and problem solved
> > http://www.omeganet.ca/support/tips-n-tricks/images-oec/16-Outlook-Express-Options-Maintenance.jpg
> > BUT the fix causes another problem- you can no longer use the above
> > option :(
> > any idea how to still Empty messages from the 'Deleted Items' folder on
> > exit???
> >
> >
>
> .
>
Bruce Hagen
released in May, 2008. I never worry about it since I compact manually at
least once a week. If you did that, you could leave the "Empty
messages........" option enabled.
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off-line. The following solution works for me.
When you close OE, it may ask to compact folders. Answer No -
and allow the program to close.
Open OE again. Click on File | Work off-line. Then, click on
File | Folder | Compact all folders.
Allow the compacting process to complete.
Click on File, and uncheck "Work offline". The indicator at the
bottom of the window will change to "Working Online". Close OE.
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אמיר
them to my xpsp3 - still no good.
i do not have a clue about the bug origin...
> .
>
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"Bob Lucas" wrote:
> .
>
Bruce Hagen
know works.
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> The compacting process should work OK, if OE is (or was) working
> off-line. The following solution works for me.
>
> When you close OE, it may ask to compact folders. Answer No -
> and allow the program to close.
Do *not* answer No to that prompt!
If you adhere to the caveats [1] we've been posting dozens of times a month
for the last 10+ years, you'll never encounter Automatic Compacting in the
first place.
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[1]
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general/search?q=caveats&start=0&scoring=d&
Bob Lucas
from compacting folders. On the contrary, regular compaction is
essential.
However, there is a problem with automatic compaction, which
occurs, when you respond to the prompt. The process does not
compact 'folders.dbx' or 'pop3uidl.dbx' (I can't remember which)
and the error message states that the folder is "still in use".
It doesn't happen every time - and I can't explain why. However,
my proven solution to the glitch is to deny AUTOMATIC compaction.
Having denied compaction, open Outlook Express again. Go
off-line, and perform a manual compaction. That way, OE is able
to compact every folder.
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place. Responding No is /supposed/ to stop the prompt itself from ever being
seen (by the user) again, such that Automatic Compacting /can/ happen again
but the user won't know about it. Hence the scores of "Help, [3 months; 2
years; etc.] of my inbox messages have disappeared!" posts in this and other
newsgroups.
One mo' time:
- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.
- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
- ****Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not
attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic
Compacting is taking place.****
- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional protection:
Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
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DAS
I am sure I read in this group a while ago that it is important to compact
folders.dbx.
Thanks.
DAS
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Bruce Hagen
following the compacting prompt will both include Folders.dbx.
Where did this question arise from?
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DAS
I was reminded by this and other threads and references to "manual
compacting". Of course manual compaction includes Compact All, which I
don't normally do because of my (large) inbox, which makes the compaction
process hang or fail. So I compact individual folders and occasionally
spread the inbox into several subfolders and Compact All, only so that I
compact folders.dbx.
I am fully aware of the risks of large inboxes, having followed this
forum... (I back up daily or more often.)
DAS
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DAS
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/performance.htm#slownews?
How big is "bloated"?
Currently it is 73 kB, which must be small, since my mail folders compact to
59 kB when empty.
DAS
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your Inbox probably looks like. <g>
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:-)
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