If I ignore it, it will close it self and then popup again.
I don't even USE Outlook Express. I even removed OE using add/remove
programs in the control panel.
Please help. Its driving me insane!
btw, I'm using Windows Mail.
Just going to take a few stabs here. First check OK for the compacting and
when it's done, close OE and any other programs that may be running.
Go to Start | Run and type in:
msconfig
OK. Uncheck everything under the Startup Tab. Reboot and check the Do Not
Show in the dialog box you see when your machine starts up.
If this solves it, you may have to recheck a few things if you see them not
working. Most importantly, make sure your anti-virus is running after you do
the above. Don't recheck anything you don't have to.
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MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA
"Chris" <bartk...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Impossible. Windows Live Mail, maybe.
Are you running WinXP SP3?
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Apparently, if its set to index OE, it invisibly opens and closes OE
every few minutes in order to the index the OE message store. After 100
open/closes OE will start prompting you about compacting.
Do you still have the folder
C:\Program Files\Outlook Express
My guess would be the WDS is calling MSOE.DLL there.
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"Chris" <bartk...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Some archived posts:
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?qt_s=1&q=%22IBM+Rapid+Access%22+%2B+%22pa+bear%
You may also have a bad install if SP3 was downloaded with an anti-virus, or
anti-spyware, program running.
From: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsxp/cc164204.aspx
* If the configuration of your antivirus software prevents certain system
files from being changed, SP3 installation might fail. Try temporarily
disabling your antivirus software. You can usually do this by right-clicking
your antivirus program icon (which typically appears in the bottom
right-hand corner of the computer screen) and clicking Disable.
* If you disable your antivirus software before you install the service
pack, be sure that you are aware of the risks involved, and be sure to
enable it after the service pack is installed.
Remove SP3 via Add/Remove Programs, reboot and download and install it
again. Before you do, turn off your anti-virus and any anti-spyware programs
such as Windows Defender. If you use a third party firewall, disable it and
turn on the Windows Firewall in the Control Panel for the installation. Once
SP3 is in and working, you can enable the third party firewall and turn of
the Windows Firewall. Do not keep both running.
Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3:
http://support.microsoft.com:80/kb/950717
WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3-read-all-prerequisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx
Release Notes for Windows XP Service Pack 3
http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/d/8/cd8cc719-7d5a-40d3-a802-e4057aa8c631/relnotes.htm
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MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA
"TSGarp00" <TSGa...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D0C4581A-1426-48D5...@microsoft.com...
Also make sure that Outlook 2003 is set as your default mail program.
Take a look at
http://www.slipstick.com/config/defaultmailer.htm
Also Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Set Program Access and
Defaults, Custom, Email and Uncheck enable access to Outlook Express
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"TSGarp00" <TSGa...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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I went to Control Panel, and clicked on INDEXING OPTIONS. Outlook Express
was checked for all users at my Windows XP workstation (even though I do not
use Outlook Express)
I clicked MODIFY and cleared the check boxes.
The problem went away
The problem is with the registry counter that gives you the prompt after 100
closings of OE. It is being increased quicker than it should be. There is a
growing number of programs and actions that may be causing this after
installing SP3. Do you have any of the following?
IBM Rapid Access keyboard (driver) RAKDLL.DLL
Windows Desktop Search
Window Live Mail (even if it was removed)
Mailwasher
Nero plug-in(s)
Opening EML files while OE is closed will also contribute to the registry
count.
Various anti-virus, anti-spyware and third party firewalls, especially if
they were running when you installed SP3.
Recent archived thread discussing this issue:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general/browse_frm/thread/fcd35fbfa457fd6f
You could also download RegMon:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896652.aspx.
Run the program and monitor the Compact Count Check registry value by
filtering on: Compact Count Check.
This should identify the program that is causing the rapid increase in the
Compact Check Count registry value.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA
"Blake" <Bl...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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What you need to do in such software is to tell it NOT to index Outlook
Express or to exclude file types DBX, EML and NWS.
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"Blake" <Bl...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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You said you don't use OE and either do I but still I got annoyed with the
reported message. Why? As indicated by others in this thread other programs
such as Windows Desktop Search and Nero can effectively open and close some
OE file sufficient to trigger the counter. When the counter reaches 100 the
message triggers.
So you can simple alter the registry to set that counter to 0 and that will
buy you a little time until it reaches 100 again. My own test will be to
remove that subkey and see it stays gone. Normal precautions and warning to
editing the registry apply though I won't repeat them. Here's where:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{GUID}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0
->Compact Check Count
change the value to 0
close the registry
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Dale - SBSguy unleashed wrote:
> As has been explained by others, Outlook Express is currently set to count
> how many times it opens and closes and then trigger an automated
> compaction
> of its message store. Rather than have it occur in the background without
> user interaction we now have a prompt message.
>
> You said you don't use OE and either do I but still I got annoyed with the
> reported message. Why? As indicated by others in this thread other
> programs such as Windows Desktop Search and Nero can effectively open and
> close some OE file sufficient to trigger the counter. When the counter
> reaches 100 the message triggers.
>
> So you can simple alter the registry to set that counter to 0 and that
> will
> buy you a little time until it reaches 100 again. My own test will be to
> remove that subkey and see it stays gone. Normal precautions and warning
> to
> editing the registry apply though I won't repeat them. Here's where:
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{GUID}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0
> ->Compact Check Count
> change the value to 0
> close the registry
>
>
The more difficult scenario would be for those that actually want to use OE
and would suffer with either the chronic annoying message or have to remember
to manually compact the messages from time to time.
The fact that it has existed for such a long time and Microsoft hasn't yet
addressed this with a KB or released any patch is disappointing.
Live Mail is a big improvement to OE and hopefully, people would consider
this as a change. Still the OE message will continue though.
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Here's my version:
See this recent discussion about the problem:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general/browse_frm/thread/fcd35fbfa457fd6f
For reference, here's a list of things which are known to cause this
behavior:
• Various & sundry anti-virus applications (including Norton);
• Various & sundry anti-spyware applications;
• Various & sundry third-party firewalls;
• Any/all of the above running when WinXP SP3 was installed;
• IBM Rapid Access keyboard (driver) RAKDLL.DLL;
• Nero plug-in(s);
• Windows Desktop Search is installed;
• Windows Live Mail is or had been installed;
• Disk defragmentation, need for;
• Using Visual Basic DoCmd.SendObject command to create an email;
• Using any number third-party applications (e.g., accounting software) to
send emails by via Outlook Express;
• MailWasher; and/or
• Programatically opening EML files while OE is closed (e.g., creating a
New Message via Address Book).
Note that the vast majority of OE users are NOT seeing this behavior in
WinXP SP3.
--
~PA Bear
Dale - SBSguy unleashed wrote:
> Please add whatever helpful information you know or point to it with a
> link.
> Is it necessary to explain the elaborateness of this in order to simply
> convey that there is a counter behind it all that can simply be turned
> off?
>
> The more difficult scenario would be for those that actually want to use
> OE
> and would suffer with either the chronic annoying message or have to
> remember to manually compact the messages from time to time.
>
> The fact that it has existed for such a long time and Microsoft hasn't yet
> addressed this with a KB or released any patch is disappointing.
>
> Live Mail is a big improvement to OE and hopefully, people would consider
> this as a change. Still the OE message will continue though.
>
From my perspective I don't care if the OE counter ever counts anything as I
will never use OE ever never again. It doesn't matter that a non-used
program never gets it empty database compacted. So my solution is to
effectively remove the counting mechanism itself by simply deleting the
subkey of that counter. If it isn't there it can't hold a value and
subsequently the message is never triggered. Problem solved and no secondary
issues.
Another program specific workaround with Windows Desktop Search is to
uncheck the Indexing Locations that by default have Outlook Express set to
index for every user account.
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"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
<qp>
> Another program specific workaround with Windows Desktop Search is to
> uncheck the Indexing Locations that by default have Outlook Express set to
> index for every user account.
</qp>
If Windows Desktop Search is the culprit, you need to tell it to stop
indexing.
Control Panel | INDEXING OPTIONS. Click: MODIFY and clear the check box
for Outlook Express.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA
"Dale - SBSguy unleashed" <DaleSBSgu...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote in message news:78942EAE-6275-4F78...@microsoft.com...
The message triggers on any closes after the count has reached 100, so on
the 101 and higher closing you get the compaction message.
--
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"Dale - SBSguy unleashed" <DaleSBSgu...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote in message news:F100974E-7133-4409...@microsoft.com...
Ron Sommer wrote:
> The count is increased when OE closes. The count doesn't change when OE
> opens.
>
> The message triggers on any closes after the count has reached 100, so on
> the 101 and higher closing you get the compaction message.
>
Note that the behavior can be seen in WinXP SP3 even if OE's never been
used.
--
~PA Bear
Dale - SBSguy unleashed wrote:
> Yes, those are good references that seem to sum up the greater situation.
>
> From my perspective I don't care if the OE counter ever counts anything as
> I
> will never use OE ever never again. It doesn't matter that a non-used
> program never gets it empty database compacted. So my solution is to
> effectively remove the counting mechanism itself by simply deleting the
> subkey of that counter. If it isn't there it can't hold a value and
> subsequently the message is never triggered. Problem solved and no
> secondary issues.
>
> Another program specific workaround with Windows Desktop Search is to
> uncheck the Indexing Locations that by default have Outlook Express set to
> index for every user account.
>
upon reboot the subkey remains gone and so does the related annoying messages
Problem solved albeit not the root cause
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www.duitwithsbs.wordpress.com
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
Good luck.
Windows Desktop Search
Control Panel, INDEXING OPTIONS, click MODIFY and clear the check box
for Outlook Express
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"Brandon" <Bra...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B84023D1-217B-402A...@microsoft.com...
Close all programs and, to be safe, create a System Restore point.
Open Start, click run, type "regedit" and press enter
Look for this key in the Registry:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{GUID}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0
Double click the Compact Check Count
Select the Base option for Decimal and change the value to 0
This should change both the Hexadecimal and decimal values to zero.
Close the Registry.
This should cure your problem
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA
"M" <pctech_...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA
other programs can cause this even it you do not use OE.
"Troy" <Tr...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C8B034ED-F6D5-4948...@microsoft.com...
Troy wrote:
> Removing Windows Search 4.0 worked for me. My problem was a little bit
> different though. I kept getting this message everytime I booted up. I
> didn't even use OE.
>
I'm hoping this will be fixed in the next hot patch I download.
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
"Rich" <Ri...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CB3A4CDA-27CB-4909...@microsoft.com...
All OE development stopped in June 2006: There will be further "hot
patches," even to address this.
You might better ask WTF Windows Search (v4.0) was "pushed" to WinXP
machines via Automatic Updates, even to machines where Windows Desktop
Search (v3.x) wasn't installed and had never been installed!
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
Rich wrote:
> Thanks. I would have never found this setting. How is anyone supposed to
> trace an error message that says that Outlook Express is doing something
> back to a setting for Windows Search? How are we supposed to know that the
> setting for this is in the Control Panel and not in Windows Search itself?
>
> I'm hoping this will be fixed in the next hot patch I download.
>
> "Modifiers" wrote:
>
>> Hi I use the Microsoft Windows Search. I also do not use Outlook
>> Express.
>>
>> I went to Control Panel, and clicked on INDEXING OPTIONS. Outlook Express
>> was checked for all users at my Windows XP workstation (even though I do
>> not use Outlook Express)
>>
>> I clicked MODIFY and cleared the check boxes.
>>
>> The problem went away
>>
>>> Just recently "To free up disk space, Outlook Express can compact
>>> messages. This may take up to a few minutes." started coming up
>>> frequently. (Once every 20 seconds)
>>>
>>> If I ignore it, it will close it self and then popup again.
>>>
>>> I don't even USE Outlook Express. I even removed OE using add/remove
>>> programs in the control panel.
>>>
>>> Please help. Its driving me insane!
>>>
>>> btw, I'm using Windows [Live] Mail.
"Modifiers" wrote:
> Hi I use the Microsoft Windows Search. I also do not use Outlook Express.
>
> I went to Control Panel, and clicked on INDEXING OPTIONS. Outlook Express
> was checked for all users at my Windows XP workstation (even though I do not
> use Outlook Express)
>
> I clicked MODIFY and cleared the check boxes.
>
> The problem went away
>
>
>
>
> "Chris" wrote:
>
> > Just recently "To free up disk space, Outlook Express can compact messages.
> > This may take up to a few minutes." started coming up frequently. (Once
> > every 20 seconds)
> >
> > If I ignore it, it will close it self and then popup again.
> >
> > I don't even USE Outlook Express. I even removed OE using add/remove
> > programs in the control panel.
> >
> > Please help. Its driving me insane!
> >
> > btw, I'm using Windows Mail.
> >
> >
2: Why are you hijacking this thread instead of starting your own?
3: If your OS is Vista, you do not have Outlook Express and therefore this
newsgroup is not where you want to be.
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MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
"Ninjagrrrl" <Ninja...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3601A4C7-6A2C-485D...@microsoft.com...
Then, under "Using Indexing" there is another item thusly:
-------------
Using Indexing Service
Indexing Service creates indexes of the contents and properties of
documents on your local hard drive and on shared network drives. You can
also control the information included in the indexes. Indexing Service
is designed to run continuously and requires little, if any,
maintenance.
To open Indexing Service
Open Computer Management (Local).
In the console tree, double-click Services and Applications.
Double-click Indexing Service.
Notes
To open Computer Management, click Start, point to Settings, and then
click Control Panel. Double-click Administrative Tools, and then
double-click Computer Management.
For information about using Indexing Service, on the Action menu in
Computer Management, click Help.
For more information, click Related Topics.
-------------
Notice THAT one tells you how to start the Indexing Service dialog from
Administrative Tools and Computer Management from Administrative Tools
in the Control Panel.
See how easy it was? Now you have two ways to access it, and its own
Help file with more details to boot.
Whenever you have a problem it's always best to start by looking in Help
and if that's no help, then try searching for an answer with your
favorite Search Engine. There is Google, Yahoo, MSN, Ask Jeeves, etc.,
all kinds of t hem available on the 'net. But many times you can find
the easier answers (like this one) right on your own computer. With a
little experience it won't be long before you'll know as much or more
than many who post on the groups.
HTH,
Twayne`
Default Exclude: outlookexpress://{*}/*
"Henrik" wrote:
> I had the same problem and solved it by deleting all files in c:\program
> files\outlook express. The files somehow imedietly was recreated automaticly
> but the problem is gone.
That highlighted WindowsSearch.exe as the process which generated the popup
message and got me moving on the solution.
I hope your problem was solved and you moved on.
...Dean
cf. ftp://ftp6.nero.com/user_guides/nero8/scout/NeroScout_Enu.pdf
Also see http://www.nero.com/eng/support-faq.html?s=sub&t=Scout
"Modifiers" wrote:
> Hi I use the Microsoft Windows Search. I also do not use Outlook Express.
>
> I went to Control Panel, and clicked on INDEXING OPTIONS. Outlook Express
> was checked for all users at my Windows XP workstation (even though I do not
> use Outlook Express)
>
> I clicked MODIFY and cleared the check boxes.
>
> The problem went away
>
>
>
>
Do you use OE? After clearing the indexing options for OE, did you let it
compact once?
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MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
"Lorenzo" <Lor...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:28D84475-F6E3-4BDD...@microsoft.com...
"Kimbrian" wrote:
> Thanks for the information, followed your instructions and the problem seems
> to have been solved, regards Brian
"A Sun" <A S...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:01384C16-33AF-467E...@microsoft.com...
"Henrik" wrote:
> I had the same problem and solved it by deleting all files in c:\program
> files\outlook express. The files somehow imedietly was recreated automaticly
> but the problem is gone.
>
"Michael Santovec" wrote:
> Have you installed Windows Desktop Search?
>
> Apparently, if its set to index OE, it invisibly opens and closes OE
> every few minutes in order to the index the OE message store. After 100
> open/closes OE will start prompting you about compacting.
>
> Do you still have the folder
> C:\Program Files\Outlook Express
>
> My guess would be the WDS is calling MSOE.DLL there.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
>
> "Chris" <bartk...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:04C13779-9620-4EFF...@microsoft.com...
If Microsoft Outlook Express is listed under 'Included Locations' then
left-click on it and click on the 'Modify' button'. You should see an Indexed
Locations popup where you can 'uncheck' the Microsoft Outlook Express: Main
Identity entry and you will no longer receive the message. Hope this helps!
What part of "I'm using Windows Mail" don't you understand?
"Modifiers" wrote:
> Hi I use the Microsoft Windows Search. I also do not use Outlook Express.
>
> I went to Control Panel, and clicked on INDEXING OPTIONS. Outlook Express
> was checked for all users at my Windows XP workstation (even though I do not
> use Outlook Express)
>
> I clicked MODIFY and cleared the check boxes.
>
> The problem went away
>
>
>
>