> Please tell me if this action by Microsoft will affect Outlook in the same
> manner, or am I free to make the switch.

> Please tell me if this action by Microsoft will affect Outlook in the same
> manner, or am I free to make the switch.

>> I'm an Outlook Express user who wants to switch to Outlook.  I received a
>> notice from Microsoft that includes the following: "... as of June 30,
>> 2008,
>> Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will no longer be able to
>> access your Hotmail Inbox via Outlook Express."

>> Please tell me if this action by Microsoft will affect Outlook in the
>> same
>> manner, or am I free to make the switch.

> Outlook and Outlook Express support DAV (the scripting language
> understood by Microsoft's HTTP mail hosts).  So, to answer your question
> in your Subject header (but which conflicts with the question in the
> body of your post), yes, they support DAV.

> Microsoft warned that they are disabling the WebDAV interface to their
> HTTP mail service (Hotmail).  They may have postponed the change but it
> will happen.  Deltasync, for reasons justified by Microsoft (but not
> justified in its claims for its need for many users that don't consume
> gigabytes of disk quota), will replace DAV.

> Neither Outlook or Outlook Express natively support DeltaSync.

> Windows Live Mail, Outlook Express's replacement, does support
> Deltasync.

> Outlook Express will receive no further updates to make it support
> Deltasync.

> An add-on can be installed into Outlook to provide Deltasync support.
> You must:
> - Convert an MSN Hotmail account to a Windows Live Mail account (there
> should be an option to do so if your account has not already been
> converted).  It doesn't matter if you use the classic or full UI but you
> must now have a Windows Live Hotmail account.
> - Download and install the Outlook Connector add-on from Microsoft's
> download site (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads).
> - Create an HTTP account for your Windows Live Hotmail account under the
> control of this add-on.

> The above is only required if you are using a free Hotmail account.
> From what I've read in an MS rep blog, Microsoft returned POP3/SMTP mail
> host access to *paid* accounts but only for Windows Live Hotmail PLUS
> accounts (not for MSN Hotmail Premium accounts).  So you don't need to
> bother with Deltasync, possibly having to install an add-on, and can
> instead use any POP3/SMTP compliant e-mail client to access a paid
> Windows Live Hotmail Plus account.  There was a promise the a November
> 2007 blog that POP3/SMTP will be turned back on for freebie accounts in
> about a year, so it might return sometime around November of this year
> ... maybe but don't hold your breath or expect to wait out Microsoft to
> make a decision.  Some users like POP3 methods of managing their
> e-mails.  Some like IMAP of which DAV and Deltasync emulate in behavior
> but not in implementation.  Because some users want an IMAP-like
> interface to their mailbox, there has been some discussion of adding
> IMAP access but that's been an iffy proposal.

> You never mentioned what type of Hotmail account you have (MSN or
> Windows Live) and if it is a free or paid account.

> Let me answer this way:  My email address is  ....@msn.com.  When I access my
> mail from a computer other than mine, I sign in at msn.com, then click on
> "Hotmail" to get to my mail.  This all came about when I left ATT to take
> advantage of a Quest bundling offer, in which I pay for DSL, cell-phone,
> local phone, and DirecTV.  So I guess the answer to your question is Hotmail
> type = MSN, and it's a free account.

> I assume this means changing my current mail account from a POP/SMTP to an
> HTTP account.  I don't understand "under the control of this add-on".

>>> You never mentioned what type of Hotmail account you have (MSN or
>>> Windows Live) and if it is a free or paid account.

>> Let me answer this way:  My email address is  ....@msn.com.  When I access
>> my
>> mail from a computer other than mine, I sign in at msn.com, then click on
>> "Hotmail" to get to my mail.  This all came about when I left ATT to take
>> advantage of a Quest bundling offer, in which I pay for DSL, cell-phone,
>> local phone, and DirecTV.  So I guess the answer to your question is
>> Hotmail
>> type = MSN, and it's a free account.

> MSN used to have their own e-mail service but dropped it and switched to
> the Hotmail resources.  It is possible that you have an MSN legacy
> account.  I don't know if those legacy accounts let you switch to a
> Windows Live Hotmail account, but the classic Hotmail accounts let you
> switch.

> If you have a classic Hotmail account, there should be an option to
> switch it to a Windows Live Hotmail account.  I don't know if the legacy
> MSN accounts let you switch (and still retain the old domain in your
> e-mail address for a Live account).

>>> Create an HTTP account for your Windows Live Hotmail account under the
>>> control of this add-on.

>> I assume this means changing my current mail account from a POP/SMTP to
>> an
>> HTTP account.  I don't understand "under the control of this add-on".

> When you define the new HTTP account for Hotmail, you will do so within
> the control of the add-on.  I don't remember the details other than
> creating the new account had to be somehow within the scope of this
> add-on.  My recollection, which is faint (because the add-on won't work
> with OL2002 which is what I still use), is that you do NOT define a new
> e-mail account using the "Tools -> Email Accounts" semi-wizard but
> instead use a menu entry for the add-on under which you define the new
> account (under its control).

> The Outlook Connector is to only add Deltasync support so it has only
> one purpose: to support Windows Live Hotmail accounts.  The Tools ->
> Email Accounts wizard is used to define POP, IMAP, HTTP/DAV, and
> Exchange accounts, not HTTP/Deltasync accounts.  Read Microsoft at
> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/officelive/FX102473521033.aspx under
> the "Use Microsoft Office Outlook to manage your e-mail" section.  That
> dialog is NOT under the "Tools -> Email Accounts" wizard.  You use the
> add-on to define the account, not the old wizard in Outlook.

>> You never mentioned what type of Hotmail account you have (MSN or
>> Windows Live) and if it is a free or paid account.

> Let me answer this way:  My email address is  ....@msn.com.  When I access
> my mail from a computer other than mine, I sign in at msn.com, then click
> on "Hotmail" to get to my mail.  This all came about when I left ATT to
> take advantage of a Quest bundling offer, in which I pay for DSL,
> cell-phone, local phone, and DirecTV.  So I guess the answer to your
> question is Hotmail type = MSN, and it's a free account.

>> Create an HTTP account for your Windows Live Hotmail account under the
>> control of this add-on.

> I assume this means changing my current mail account from a POP/SMTP to an
> HTTP account.  I don't understand "under the control of this add-on".

> Thanks again for the help.

> Bud

> "VanguardLH" <V...@nguard.LH> wrote in message
> news:WP6dnaCXpdprS8vVnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> "BudV" wrote in <news:#0XUDi#zIHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>:

>>> I'm an Outlook Express user who wants to switch to Outlook.  I received
>>> a
>>> notice from Microsoft that includes the following: "... as of June 30,
>>> 2008,
>>> Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will no longer be able
>>> to
>>> access your Hotmail Inbox via Outlook Express."

>>> Please tell me if this action by Microsoft will affect Outlook in the
>>> same
>>> manner, or am I free to make the switch.

>> Outlook and Outlook Express support DAV (the scripting language
>> understood by Microsoft's HTTP mail hosts).  So, to answer your question
>> in your Subject header (but which conflicts with the question in the
>> body of your post), yes, they support DAV.

>> Microsoft warned that they are disabling the WebDAV interface to their
>> HTTP mail service (Hotmail).  They may have postponed the change but it
>> will happen.  Deltasync, for reasons justified by Microsoft (but not
>> justified in its claims for its need for many users that don't consume
>> gigabytes of disk quota), will replace DAV.

>> Neither Outlook or Outlook Express natively support DeltaSync.

>> Windows Live Mail, Outlook Express's replacement, does support
>> Deltasync.

>> Outlook Express will receive no further updates to make it support
>> Deltasync.

>> An add-on can be installed into Outlook to provide Deltasync support.
>> You must:
>> - Convert an MSN Hotmail account to a Windows Live Mail account (there
>> should be an option to do so if your account has not already been
>> converted).  It doesn't matter if you use the classic or full UI but you
>> must now have a Windows Live Hotmail account.
>> - Download and install the Outlook Connector add-on from Microsoft's
>> download site (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads).
>> - Create an HTTP account for your Windows Live Hotmail account under the
>> control of this add-on.

>> The above is only required if you are using a free Hotmail account.
>> From what I've read in an MS rep blog, Microsoft returned POP3/SMTP mail
>> host access to *paid* accounts but only for Windows Live Hotmail PLUS
>> accounts (not for MSN Hotmail Premium accounts).  So you don't need to
>> bother with Deltasync, possibly having to install an add-on, and can
>> instead use any POP3/SMTP compliant e-mail client to access a paid
>> Windows Live Hotmail Plus account.  There was a promise the a November
>> 2007 blog that POP3/SMTP will be turned back on for freebie accounts in
>> about a year, so it might return sometime around November of this year
>> ... maybe but don't hold your breath or expect to wait out Microsoft to
>> make a decision.  Some users like POP3 methods of managing their
>> e-mails.  Some like IMAP of which DAV and Deltasync emulate in behavior
>> but not in implementation.  Because some users want an IMAP-like
>> interface to their mailbox, there has been some discussion of adding
>> IMAP access but that's been an iffy proposal.

>> You never mentioned what type of Hotmail account you have (MSN or
>> Windows Live) and if it is a free or paid account.