Windows XP SP2 in VPC 7 stopped working with Windows Update.
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I installed Dr.TCP, adjusted the MTU value from the default of 1500 (shown as a blank field in Dr. TCP) to 1300, and rebooted Windows XP. It didn't help.
I've had the same problem for quite a while. At home, using our Belkin 54G router, I cannot update Windows XP Pro. I've tried every trick I've ever read. However, when at work, using my company Linksys router, all is well. Also, Automatic Update running in the background works fine at home. Automatic Update would be acceptable, except that it's usually about two weeks late when it finally decides to talk to the Microsoft Update server. Go figure... I've given up on it.
In article <1155761082.281144.221...@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
RichB <rich.bat...@gmail.com> wrote: > I read about a fix for this problem here:
> I installed Dr.TCP, adjusted the MTU value from the default of 1500 > (shown as a blank field in Dr. TCP) to 1300, and rebooted Windows XP. > It didn't help.
New updates are posted on the second Tuesday of each month, except for Windows Defender definition file updates. You would not see downloads via Automatic Updates until after "Patch Tuesday" of the month. This is a Windows issue, and not likely VPC or the Mac. Ask in the microsoft.public.windowxp.general newsgroup for advice. It is possible that you need to unregister and reregister some dll's before WU or MU will work.
"Terry Younkin" <younk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> I've had the same problem for quite a while. At home, using our Belkin > 54G router, I cannot update Windows XP Pro. I've tried every trick > I've ever read. However, when at work, using my company Linksys > router, all is well. Also, Automatic Update running in the background > works fine at home. Automatic Update would be acceptable, except that > it's usually about two weeks late when it finally decides to talk to > the Microsoft Update server. Go figure... I've given up on it.
> In article <1155761082.281144.221...@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, > RichB <rich.bat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I installed Dr.TCP, adjusted the MTU value from the default of 1500 >> (shown as a blank field in Dr. TCP) to 1300, and rebooted Windows XP. >> It didn't help.
Thanks for the quick reply, Colin. I am aware of the "Second Tuesday" updates. Although I'm primarily a Mac guy, I have two Windows machines I maintain here at home (three if you count VPC) and also about five XP machines at work. It seems as though I'm the "update guy" on all of them.
Oddly enough, my VPC isn't alone with its update problems here at home. My step-daughter has a Windows 2000 laptop that recently has refused to update via the Microsoft Update web site. Even more strange, my wife's XP machine has no problem with the site. We're all using the same home network. The Windows 2000 machine is like my VPC in that Automatic Update works fine in the background.
None of this would really be a big deal if the updates weren't serious, but often they are serious. My wife and I surf cautiously, but there's a 19 year old running the Windows 2000 machine. ;-)
I've spent a great deal of time on this issue, and never have quite got it straightened out. I believe the MTU issue with the Belkin router is probably what's causing it. We've had certified Windows geniuses over here working on it, and so far everyone has struck out. Evidently, we're limited as to where the Belkin can be set. None of our changes have ever worked. We can switch over to a neighbor's wireless network and make things work. It's just that we've got to go outdoors to connect to it; not a good solution.
As for the dll matter, I believe we've tried that.
Again, thanks for the reply.
In article <eSmkEIR0GHA.1...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, Colin Barnhorst
<colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote: > New updates are posted on the second Tuesday of each month, except for > Windows Defender definition file updates. You would not see downloads via > Automatic Updates until after "Patch Tuesday" of the month. This is a > Windows issue, and not likely VPC or the Mac. Ask in the > microsoft.public.windowxp.general newsgroup for advice. It is possible that > you need to unregister and reregister some dll's before WU or MU will work.
> "Terry Younkin" <younk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:040920060043481186%younkint@sbcglobal.net... > > I've had the same problem for quite a while. At home, using our Belkin > > 54G router, I cannot update Windows XP Pro. I've tried every trick > > I've ever read. However, when at work, using my company Linksys > > router, all is well. Also, Automatic Update running in the background > > works fine at home. Automatic Update would be acceptable, except that > > it's usually about two weeks late when it finally decides to talk to > > the Microsoft Update server. Go figure... I've given up on it.
> > In article <1155761082.281144.221...@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, > > RichB <rich.bat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I installed Dr.TCP, adjusted the MTU value from the default of 1500 > >> (shown as a blank field in Dr. TCP) to 1300, and rebooted Windows XP. > >> It didn't help.
Terry wrote: > Thanks for the quick reply, Colin. I am aware of the "Second Tuesday" > updates. Although I'm primarily a Mac guy, I have two Windows machines > I maintain here at home (three if you count VPC) and also about five XP > machines at work. It seems as though I'm the "update guy" on all of > them.
> Oddly enough, my VPC isn't alone with its update problems here at home. > My step-daughter has a Windows 2000 laptop that recently has refused to > update via the Microsoft Update web site. Even more strange, my wife's > XP machine has no problem with the site. We're all using the same home > network. The Windows 2000 machine is like my VPC in that Automatic > Update works fine in the background.
> None of this would really be a big deal if the updates weren't serious, > but often they are serious. My wife and I surf cautiously, but there's > a 19 year old running the Windows 2000 machine. ;-)
> I've spent a great deal of time on this issue, and never have quite got > it straightened out. I believe the MTU issue with the Belkin router is > probably what's causing it. We've had certified Windows geniuses over > here working on it, and so far everyone has struck out. Evidently, > we're limited as to where the Belkin can be set. None of our changes > have ever worked. We can switch over to a neighbor's wireless network > and make things work. It's just that we've got to go outdoors to > connect to it; not a good solution.
> As for the dll matter, I believe we've tried that.
> Again, thanks for the reply.
> In article <eSmkEIR0GHA.1...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, Colin Barnhorst > <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote:
> > New updates are posted on the second Tuesday of each month, except for > > Windows Defender definition file updates. You would not see downloads via > > Automatic Updates until after "Patch Tuesday" of the month. This is a > > Windows issue, and not likely VPC or the Mac. Ask in the > > microsoft.public.windowxp.general newsgroup for advice. It is possible that > > you need to unregister and reregister some dll's before WU or MU will work.
> > "Terry Younkin" <younk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > > news:040920060043481186%younkint@sbcglobal.net... > > > I've had the same problem for quite a while. At home, using our Belkin > > > 54G router, I cannot update Windows XP Pro. I've tried every trick > > > I've ever read. However, when at work, using my company Linksys > > > router, all is well. Also, Automatic Update running in the background > > > works fine at home. Automatic Update would be acceptable, except that > > > it's usually about two weeks late when it finally decides to talk to > > > the Microsoft Update server. Go figure... I've given up on it.
> > >> I installed Dr.TCP, adjusted the MTU value from the default of 1500 > > >> (shown as a blank field in Dr. TCP) to 1300, and rebooted Windows XP. > > >> It didn't help.
> > > -- > > > Terry
> > > (Please remove "yershoes" from address.)
This may sound like it's 'off the wall' and stupid but bear with me:
Change the MTU value to 1200 and RESTART Windows. Many people using VPC just save the state of Windows and quit VPC, but you must restart Windows for any Registry changes to take effect. Once that is completed, type the following command in a DOS window:
ping -f -l 1200 4.2.2.2
If you get 4 clean replies instead of the dreaded 'Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set', then your MTU values are set correctly. Try WU.
I was able to restore Windows Update functionality with the help of Microsoft Support. Their solution is posted below. It turns out it was a corrupt PC file somewhere. The suspicion I had that it had to do with the convoluted wireless network feeding my Mac and then more complicated by Virtual PC was wrong.
Here's the fire-hose solution and I'll never know what a simple fix would have been:
"After checking the Windows Update log, I found that we have received the following error message
2006-08-28 13:41:59 3696 f24 Setup FATAL: Error 0x80070057 preparing file C:\WINDOWS\system32\wups.dll for copy 2006-08-28 13:42:03 3696 f24 Setup WARNING: Setup failed while processing file operations, error = 0x80070003. Rolling back changes.
Based on the Knowledge Base, this issue can be caused by the following two factors
1.The Windows Update engine files are corrupt 2.The Key value in the Registry is not correct
Let's check the following steps to troubleshoot the issue
Step 1: Restart the computer in Safe Mode ================================ 1. Reboot your computer and start pressing the F8 key on your keyboard.
2. When the Windows Advanced Options menu appears, select Safe Mode, and then press Enter. 3. Log onto Windows.
NOTE: In Safe Mode, your system display and desktop will look and perform differently than in normal mode.
Step 2: Remove the corrupted files ================== 1. Click Start-> Search. 2. Select "All files and folders", and then search for the following files:
If you find any of the above files, please right click to rename this file to (such as wuapi.old). Please understand that we may not find all the files listed above. If so, it is normal, and please continue to search for the rest of the files.
Step 3 Modify the Registry: ================== 1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit in the Open box, and then click OK. 2. Locate, and then click the following subkey in the registry:
3. In the right pane of Registry Editor, double-click ProgramFilesDir. 4. If the correct path of the Program Files folder is not displayed in the Value data box, type the correct path of the Program Files folder. For example, type C:\Program Files. 5. Click OK. 6. Double-click ProgramFilesPath. 7. If %ProgramFiles% is not displayed in the Value data box, type %ProgramFiles%. 8. Click OK. 9. Quit Registry Editor
After trying above steps, let's restart the Machine to the Normal Mode and access the Windows Update site again.
> Change the MTU value to 1200 and RESTART Windows. Many people using > VPC just save the state of Windows and quit VPC, but you must restart > Windows for any Registry changes to take effect. Once that is > completed, type the following command in a DOS window:
> ping -f -l 1200 4.2.2.2
> If you get 4 clean replies instead of the dreaded 'Packet needs to be > fragmented but DF set', then your MTU values are set correctly. Try WU.