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Rick O'Shey

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Jan 15, 2010, 12:58:10 AM1/15/10
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I turned off Office Reminders and deleted Microsoft Database Daemon from my
login items. It remains deleted until I begin to use Entourage. Why? How do
I prevent it from becoming a "login item?"

Diane_R...@officeformac.com

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Jan 15, 2010, 7:03:55 PM1/15/10
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On 1/14/10 9:58 PM, in article
C7756E22.4FCF3%rico...@removethis.gmail.com.invalid, "Rick O'Shey"
<rico...@removethis.gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/glossary/daemon.html>

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Diane

Rick O'Shey

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Jan 15, 2010, 10:28:51 PM1/15/10
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In article C776426B.229C1%Entour...@gmail.com,
Diane_R...@officeformac.com at Diane_R...@officeformac.com wrote on
1/15/10 7:03 PM:

I read that before posting. Perhaps I have a blind spot the size of Seattle,
but I didn't see anything there that resolves the difficulty I'm having.


Diane_R...@officeformac.com

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Jan 15, 2010, 11:22:04 PM1/15/10
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On 1/15/10 7:28 PM, in article
C7769CA3.4FE25%rico...@removethisgmail.com.invalid, "Rick O'Shey"
<rico...@removethisgmail.com.invalid> wrote:

> I read that before posting. Perhaps I have a blind spot the size of Seattle,
> but I didn't see anything there that resolves the difficulty I'm having.
>

You need to quit notifications. Then delete it from startup items. Word also
uses the daemon so if anything launches it, it will show up in startup
items. I wouldn't worry about it, it uses nothing unless being called.

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Diane

William Smith [MVP]

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Jan 15, 2010, 11:46:41 PM1/15/10
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On 1/15/10 9:28 PM, Rick O'Shey wrote:

>>> I turned off Office Reminders and deleted Microsoft Database Daemon from my
>>> login items. It remains deleted until I begin to use Entourage. Why? How do
>>> I prevent it from becoming a "login item?"
>>
>> <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/glossary/daemon.html>
>
> I read that before posting. Perhaps I have a blind spot the size of Seattle,
> but I didn't see anything there that resolves the difficulty I'm having.

Launching Entourage will always restore the daemon to Login Items. It's
part of Entourage and you should not attempt to disable it if you
continue to use Entourage.

Part of the daemon's responsibilities is to provide Reminder notices,
even while Entourage is quit. If you don't want to receive these notices
then select Entourage menu --> Turn Off Office Reminders.

Hope this helps!

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Rick O'Shey

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Jan 16, 2010, 11:38:37 AM1/16/10
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In article C7767EEC.22B5C%Entour...@gmail.com,1/15/10 11:22 PM:


They're called "Office Reminders" in Entourage 2008. And, as I said, I had
turned them off prior to deleting the Microsoft Database Daemon from the
Login Items.

Rick O'Shey

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Jan 16, 2010, 11:40:34 AM1/16/10
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In article OfD5mbml...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl, William Smith [MVP] at
meck...@REM0VETH1S.comcast.net.INVALID wrote on 1/15/10 11:46 PM:

> On 1/15/10 9:28 PM, Rick O'Shey wrote:
>
>>>> I turned off Office Reminders and deleted Microsoft Database Daemon from my
>>>> login items. It remains deleted until I begin to use Entourage. Why? How do
>>>> I prevent it from becoming a "login item?"
>>>
>>> <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/glossary/daemon.html>
>>
>> I read that before posting. Perhaps I have a blind spot the size of Seattle,
>> but I didn't see anything there that resolves the difficulty I'm having.
>
> Launching Entourage will always restore the daemon to Login Items. It's
> part of Entourage and you should not attempt to disable it if you
> continue to use Entourage.
>
> Part of the daemon's responsibilities is to provide Reminder notices,
> even while Entourage is quit. If you don't want to receive these notices
> then select Entourage menu --> Turn Off Office Reminders.
>
> Hope this helps!

I see no need to have apps opened when they're not being used -- they do
consume resources (I can see them in the Activity Monitor). I already have
quite a few Login Items, and want to "thin out" those that I don't
absolutely need running all the time. That's why I want to delete it from
the Login Items.

And according to the Help page
(http://www.entourage.mvps.org/glossary/daemon.html#dd6), I _should_ be able
to remove the Microsoft Database Daemon from the Login Items:

3) Should the database daemon show up in my startup items?
If you have Office Notifications/Reminders enabled you will see the database
daemon in your startup items.


6) Can I delete the Microsoft Database Daemon in startup items?
Yes, if you don't use Notifications and/or Reminders you can delete the
daemon. ...

William Smith [MVP]

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Jan 16, 2010, 11:56:22 AM1/16/10
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On 1/16/10 10:40 AM, Rick O'Shey wrote:

> 6) Can I delete the Microsoft Database Daemon in startup items?
> Yes, if you don't use Notifications and/or Reminders you can delete the
> daemon. ...

So far, you haven't mentioned what version of Entourage you're using. In
my testing with Entourage Web Services Edition, you can select File -->
Turn Off Office Reminders and then quit Entourage. This will
automatically remove the login item. You must quit. Don't delete it
yourself while Entourage is running.

If you're using Entourage 2004 or earlier then this behavior may have
changed with 2008.

Rick O'Shey

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Jan 17, 2010, 4:22:46 AM1/17/10
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In article #c0wWzsl...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl, William Smith [MVP] at
meck...@REM0VETH1S.comcast.net.INVALID wrote on 1/16/10 11:56 AM:

> On 1/16/10 10:40 AM, Rick O'Shey wrote:
>
>> 6) Can I delete the Microsoft Database Daemon in startup items?
>> Yes, if you don't use Notifications and/or Reminders you can delete the
>> daemon. ...
>
> So far, you haven't mentioned what version of Entourage you're using.

I mentioned Entourage 2008 two posts ago.

> In
> my testing with Entourage Web Services Edition, you can select File -->
> Turn Off Office Reminders and then quit Entourage. This will
> automatically remove the login item. You must quit. Don't delete it
> yourself while Entourage is running.

As I've already indicated, I turned off Office Reminders and deleted the
Daemon from my login items. Entourage wasn't running -- in fact, no Office
app was running. However, the Daemon simply reappears subsequently, sometime
after I reopen Entourage.

William Smith [MVP]

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Jan 17, 2010, 10:27:16 AM1/17/10
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On 1/17/10 3:22 AM, Rick O'Shey wrote:

> As I've already indicated, I turned off Office Reminders and deleted
> the Daemon from my login items. Entourage wasn't running -- in fact,
> no Office app was running. However, the Daemon simply reappears
> subsequently, sometime after I reopen Entourage.

You seem to be indicating that the daemon may appear although Entourage
is not running. Correct?

Are you running My Day? That too uses the daemon while it is running.

Rick O'Shey

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Jan 18, 2010, 5:47:08 PM1/18/10
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In article evVXOm4l...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl, William Smith [MVP] at
meck...@REM0VETH1S.comcast.net.INVALID wrote on 1/17/10 10:27 AM:

> On 1/17/10 3:22 AM, Rick O'Shey wrote:
>
>> As I've already indicated, I turned off Office Reminders and deleted
>> the Daemon from my login items. Entourage wasn't running -- in fact,
>> no Office app was running. However, the Daemon simply reappears
>> subsequently, sometime after I reopen Entourage.
>
> You seem to be indicating that the daemon may appear although Entourage
> is not running. Correct?
>
> Are you running My Day? That too uses the daemon while it is running.

Nope. No Office Reminders, no My Day. Nevertheless, the Daemon reappears in
login items after I reopen Entourage, and remains there after I quit
Entourage.

Diane Ross

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Jan 18, 2010, 7:27:49 PM1/18/10
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On 1/18/10 2:47 PM, in article
C77A4F1C.50BC3%rico...@removethisgmail.com.invalid, "Rick O'Shey"
<rico...@removethisgmail.com.invalid> wrote:

>
> Nope. No Office Reminders, no My Day. Nevertheless, the Daemon reappears in
> login items after I reopen Entourage, and remains there after I quit
> Entourage.

The daemon uses no CPU unless it's being called by one of the Microsoft
applications. If this really bothers you so much, try testing to see if you
can remove it in a new User.

Go to System Preferences --> Create a New User in Accounts. Switch to the
New User by logging out/in or use Fast User Switching. Test your problem in
the new User.

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Diane

Rick O'Shey

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Jan 19, 2010, 11:20:09 AM1/19/10
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In article C77A3C85.230FF%Entour...@gmail.com, Diane Ross at
Entour...@gmail.com wrote on 1/18/10 7:27 PM:

> On 1/18/10 2:47 PM, in article
> C77A4F1C.50BC3%rico...@removethisgmail.com.invalid, "Rick O'Shey"
> <rico...@removethisgmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>> Nope. No Office Reminders, no My Day. Nevertheless, the Daemon reappears in
>> login items after I reopen Entourage, and remains there after I quit
>> Entourage.
>
> The daemon uses no CPU unless it's being called by one of the Microsoft
> applications.

CPU usage isn't the issue, Real Memory is.

> If this really bothers you so much, try testing to see if you
> can remove it in a new User.
>
> Go to System Preferences --> Create a New User in Accounts. Switch to the
> New User by logging out/in or use Fast User Switching. Test your problem in
> the new User.

I'll give it a try.


William Smith [MVP]

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Jan 19, 2010, 10:41:58 PM1/19/10
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On 1/19/10 10:20 AM, Rick O'Shey wrote:

>> If this really bothers you so much, try testing to see if you
>> can remove it in a new User.
>>
>> Go to System Preferences --> Create a New User in Accounts. Switch to the
>> New User by logging out/in or use Fast User Switching. Test your problem in
>> the new User.
>
> I'll give it a try.

Another thing to look for is Spotlight indexing. This can be active even
when Entourage is quit. Go to Entourage menu --> Preferences... -->
General Preferences --> Spotlight and UNcheck both options.

If that doesn't work then launch Entourage with the Option key held
down. Disable the bottom option to verify the Database. (I don't
recommend this, but if it's what you're looking for...)

avill...@gmail.com

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Jun 29, 2012, 12:58:43 PM6/29/12
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Hi,

I have been reading this post and I have already done everything in the book to disable the deamon. Apparently there is no way to disable the deamon other than killing the process after you shut down entourage. This will keep the little bugger off until you open entourage again. The indexing also helps you should keep it disabled too.

my 2 cents
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