video call
patty...@gmail.com
10.4.10. Everything works fine , but I cannot have a video call!!! My
camera is working well with ichat. What can I do to have video call
using msn???
William Smith
Messenger 6.x for Mac does not support audio/video. You'll need to use a
different application such as aMSN <http://www.amsn-project.net/>.
Hope this helps!
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cm0901
wrote:
> pattywis...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I'm very upset!!! I Download Messenger for Mac 6.0.3 for mac OS X
> > 10.4.10. Everything works fine , but I cannot have a video call!!! My
> > camera is working well with ichat. What can I do to have video call
> > using msn???
>
> Messenger 6.x for Mac does not support audio/video. You'll need to use a
> different application such as aMSN <http://www.amsn-project.net/>.
>
> Hope this helps!
Or you can pray Microsoft to release a new version, and hope they'll
find a reason to hear you.
John Lockwood
1192378355.5...@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
"patty...@gmail.com" <patty...@gmail.com> wrote:
Users in their tens of thousands (literally) have been asking Microsoft for
years and years (literally) to add video and voice capabilities to MSN
Messenger for Mac to match the Windows version.
For years (literally) Microsoft have been promising this will be added in
the 'next' version, and for years this has been shown to be yet another lie.
It is time to face reality, the world's largest software developer
(Microsoft) is patently the world's worst software developer. They obviously
have no intention of ever doing this.
I suggest you dump the festering pile of excrement that is Microsoft's
pitiful effort at an instant messaging application for the Mac, and use an
alternative one.
Yahoo! Messenger for Mac can do video and voice and is fully compatible with
the Windows version. See http://messenger.yahoo.com/mac.php
Skype for Mac can do video and voice and is fully compatible with the
Windows version. See http://www.skype.com/go/downloading
X-Lite for Mac can do video and voice and is fully compatible with the
Windows version. See http://www.counterpath.com/xlitedownload.html
Dear Microsoft, there is a reason Mac users despise Microsoft software (for
the Mac) and that's because it stinks. It is not merely an us vs. them
issue, it is because ALL your Mac products are genuinely a pile of poo. If
even ONE of them was at least equal (both in features and quality) to its
Windows equivalent it would go a HUGE way to repairing your appalling
reputation.
Note: Even Office for Mac is horrifically flawed, although standalone users
not exchanging documents may not notice this.
Delivering poorly ported, crippled, ugly, buggy software to the Mac is WORSE
than not delivering a Mac application at all. If this means discontinuing
ALL their (pitiful handful of) Mac applications then go ahead make my day.
Microsoft still have the cheek to boast they have biggest Mac development
team outside Apple, and yet they still can't deliver a single decent Mac
application.
I have used Microsoft software on Apples since BEFORE the Mac even existed
(on Apple ][+), and used Microsoft software on Macs since 1984 and the
original Word 1.0 and Multiplan. So I can remember when Microsoft used to
write decent Mac applications.
I would go further than Steve Jobs famous comment that Microsoft have no
taste, and say they obviously also have no pride in their products either.
Mukkapazzza
Mukkapazzza
using PC for 20 years now). But could somebody explain to me why everybody is
so happy with Macs? I just bought one (MacBook Pro - did cost me a bomb) and
yes it's very fast but it crashed already many times (at least as many as my
windows computer)... and...
The reason why I came to this site is that now with my new Mac I can't
videochat with my friends who are all on Windows Live Messenger. Yes, true,
Microsoft could have developed a better software for Mac - but why on earth
do I have to pay Apple to open a new account to be able to use Ichat ?!?!?!
(cosider none of my friends is on AIM)
I'm very disappointed with this Mac and Apple who I'm not able to contact
directly in any way.
Why this hype about Macs?
Btw. thanks for all the suggestions. The links helped a lot.
M.
Corentin Cras-Méneur
> I just bought one (MacBook Pro - did cost me a bomb) and
> yes it's very fast but it crashed already many times (at least as many as
> my windows computer)... and...
The Mac did or the applciations you were using on the Mac did?? Though
Apple has its share of blame for crashes, quite often the apps are just
buggy and need to be updated.
> The reason why I came to this site is that now with my new Mac I can't
> videochat with my friends who are all on Windows Live Messenger.
> Yes, true, Microsoft could have developed a better software for Mac -
> but why on earth
> do I have to pay Apple to open a new account to be able to use Ichat ?!?!?!
> (cosider none of my friends is on AIM)
I'm not sure I'm following you.
iChat is an AIM/Jabber client. It's not supposed to communicate with
Messenger at all.
Messenger is a Microsoft application using a Microsoft protocol and
network.
I also don;t understand why you'd have to pay anything?? You sure don't
have to pay to create an account in iChat. You can create a free one or
even use any AIM (or Jabber) account.
Corentin
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ingenious
<Mukkapaz...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> I have also very, very, bad exprecience with microsoft software (have been
> using PC for 20 years now). But could somebody explain to me why everybody is
> so happy with Macs? I just bought one (MacBook Pro - did cost me a bomb) and
> yes it's very fast but it crashed already many times (at least as many as my
> windows computer)... and...
> The reason why I came to this site is that now with my new Mac I can't
> videochat with my friends who are all on Windows Live Messenger. Yes, true,
> Microsoft could have developed a better software for Mac - but why on earth
> do I have to pay Apple to open a new account to be able to useIchat?!?!?!
> (cosider none of my friends is on AIM)
> I'm very disappointed with this Mac and Apple who I'm not able to contact
> directly in any way.
> Why this hype about Macs?
> Btw. thanks for all the suggestions. The links helped a lot.
> M.
>
For one thing, it's very easy to directly contact Apple. Call them.
The number's at http://support.apple.com - I can't remember it off the
top of my head.
Also, yes, on a Mac, the OS almost NEVER crashes... it's usually an
application if anything at all, and usually an MS app at that.
iChat does works with AIM, .Mac, Bonjour (local messaging), and any
Jabber server (including Google Talk). No extra fees required.
Video/Audio is supposed to be added to the Mac version of Windows Live
Messenger (Microsoft Messenger) in the next version. We'll see.
John Lockwood
2DBA5FDD-253F-47A1...@microsoft.com, "Mukkapazzza"
<Mukka...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> I have also very, very, bad exprecience with microsoft software (have been
> using PC for 20 years now). But could somebody explain to me why everybody is
> so happy with Macs? I just bought one (MacBook Pro - did cost me a bomb) and
> yes it's very fast but it crashed already many times (at least as many as my
> windows computer)... and...
> The reason why I came to this site is that now with my new Mac I can't
> videochat with my friends who are all on Windows Live Messenger. Yes, true,
> Microsoft could have developed a better software for Mac - but why on earth
> do I have to pay Apple to open a new account to be able to use Ichat ?!?!?!
> (cosider none of my friends is on AIM)
> I'm very disappointed with this Mac and Apple who I'm not able to contact
> directly in any way.
> Why this hype about Macs?
> Btw. thanks for all the suggestions. The links helped a lot.
> M.
I suspect it is an application crashing rather than the entire computer, a
properly working Mac will rarely completely crash. My PowerBook currently
shows an uptime of 112+ days without having needed to be rebooted. In fact
pretty much the only time I reboot is when I install an operating system
update that requires it.
For iChat you can use a free AIM (AOL Instant Messenger) account to login to
iChat, or you can create a trial .Mac account AND COUNTINUE TO USE IT EVEN
AFTER THE TRIAL HAS FINISHED.
However for Video/Voice iChat will only link to either another Mac running
iChat, or a PC running AIM.
You can also use iChat on a local network without needing an AIM or .Mac
login at all (but this is only for talking to other Macs on your local
network).
Note to others: Yes you can text chat to other systems via Jabber in iChat,
but not video/voice.
Mickey Stevens
19210816-a9a2-4be3...@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
"ingenious" <chay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Video/Audio is supposed to be added to the Mac version of Windows Live
> Messenger (Microsoft Messenger) in the next version. We'll see.
Unfortunately, the next version of Messenger will only support video for
Corporate messaging, not Windows Live (personal) messaging. Work on the
video for the Windows Live (personal) service is still under development.
http://blogs.msdn.com/macmojo/archive/2007/11/12/a-chat-about-messenger.aspx
--
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Office & Mac Resources: <http://home.earthlink.net/~mickey.stevens/>
John Lockwood
Stevens" <mickey....@mvps.org> wrote:
> On 11/27/07 8:16 PM, in article
> 19210816-a9a2-4be3...@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
> "ingenious" <chay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Video/Audio is supposed to be added to the Mac version of Windows Live
>> Messenger (Microsoft Messenger) in the next version. We'll see.
>
> Unfortunately, the next version of Messenger will only support video for
> Corporate messaging, not Windows Live (personal) messaging. Work on the
> video for the Windows Live (personal) service is still under development.
> http://blogs.msdn.com/macmojo/archive/2007/11/12/a-chat-about-messenger.aspx
The A/V stack to be used in Messenger 7 for Mac is as you say based on the
corporate one, however the blog you refer to indicates that this stack is to
also become the new standard for personal Messenger. Only Microsoft was ever
stupid enough to have two different ones and finally they are coming to
their senses and merging them.
Unfortunately, it will take a long while for the existing great unwashed
masses using personal Messenger for Windows to upgrade to Messenger 9 (for
Windows) which will use this new stack. Meaning it will be equally a long
time before the majority of Windows users can be communicated with by Macs
using Messenger 7.
My estimation has been sometime in 2009 before both the new Windows and Mac
versions are fully released.
Jack
MacManX
Until Mac:Messenger 7.0 and WLM 9 has been released - use aMSN for videochat. I do and it works beautifully! :)
Michel Bintener
that each chat participant has an AIM/.Mac account. And that's precisely
where the problem lies: because many people use MSN, and because IM clients
such as iChat are not compatible with MSN, there is, in most cases. no point
in using them, as it would force one of the parties to give up their current
IM client and adopt a new one.
On 18/03/08 11:07, in article ee7e4...@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw, "MacManX"
<qcum...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Remember that to anyone outside US (ie the rest of the world) iChat/AIM is not
> an option. Everyone else is using Live Messenger for instant chatting.
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Microsoft MVP
Office:mac (Entourage & Word)
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Mac...@officeformac.com
iChat/AIM is not widely used outside the US. In fact I've never even heard of anyone using AIM here in Europe. I guess that's why there's so much frustration going on.
We'll just have to wait until WLM9 is released and in the mean time use aMSN if we really need webcam. For general instant messaging Messenger:Mac 7 works just fine.
There are a few minor bugs though - were do I report them?
> iChat/AIM are not restricted to the US; they can be used anywhere, provided
> that each chat participant has an AIM/.Mac account. And that's precisely
> where the problem lies: because many people use MSN, and because IM clients
> such as iChat are not compatible with MSN, there is, in most cases. no point
> in using them, as it would force one of the parties to give up their current
> IM client and adopt a new one.
>
>
> On 18/03/08 11:07, in article ee7e4...@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw, "MacManX"
Michel Bintener
On 05/05/08 16:25, in article ee7e4...@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
Mac...@officeformac.com
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