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Jane Nunez

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Dear Fellow Stationery Lovers,

Friday was a fascinating and emotional day to be "a fly on the wall" at the
stationery newsgroup. Not too many red Xs. A huge outpouring of
incredible harbor/sailing ship WETs. Tons of wonderful non-WETs. Lots of
kind support and mutual encouragement. Lots of humor and sparkle and
brilliance and energy and excitement. Lots of color, music, and
imagination. And plenty of spirited discussion by highly talented artists
with honest differences of opinion who yet managed to continue to convey a
sense of respect and regard for each other throughout (sort of our own
little Hurricane Bonnie!).

This newsgroup is a true community of minds and hearts, and we all love art
and words and stationery and computers and color and texture and music and
creativity. We are so lucky to have a forum like this in which to gather
together and share. It is delightful to think of people all across the
country and around the world working on the same WET at the same time. And
it is enriching to have so many different styles and tastes so well
represented.

Yours truly is obviously more of a yakker and art appreciator than a true
computer person. But you have made me feel so welcome. I do some abstract
acrylics and pastels (that aren't selling all that well), and I dearly love
to visit this newsgroup. It's fun and inspiring. I hope you all don't mind
that I post my unschooled comments occasionally even though it may be a
while before i ever learn how to make stationery. And I hope you will
forgive my many future mistakes.

It is so nice to have an art community to belong to. Hope someday to share
not only my thoughts but also some of my odd but happy-looking dabblings, as
soon as i can absorb the stationery-making knowledge that has been so
generously showered upon me today.

Thank you, everybody, for adding so much aesthetic beauty, so much interest,
and so much human warmth and kindness to my past few months.

Thanks!

Delurked Lurker Jane

Mark Schwartzbauer

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Aug 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/29/98
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I am quite glad you are climbing down from the wall and interacting with the
rest of us newsgroup participants, Lurker Jane. Maybe, soon, we can dispense
with the lurker part, and just address you as Jane? Sometimes less
syllables is helpful. Especially when your a two fingered typist as I am.
Then again, Lurker Jane has a ring to it. ...LOL. I'll let you decide.

In the meantime feel free to continue lurking and swipin' up all you can
get... When the time comes for you to begin using some graphics software,
please don't hesitate to ask questions. Usually somebody will be able to
either answer or direct you to an established place of learning. I am glad
you are enjoying this place. I see you've recognized some of the nuances
that occur, like they do in many other arenas in life, but it always comes
back to a desire to make something, to share a work, to dabble in the
generation of electronic art. To live life with one another making
stationery...a funny thing to gather around and develop relationships and
make true friends. But, this is the best newsgroup on the internet. and we
are proud of it. You are welcome, Jane. <g> Have fun.

Mark


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Joan F (MI)

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There is such a book but it is a cyberbook.  Majik's Home on the Web has started many a newbie on the road to stationery making.  http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/
Sounds like you may not have a scanner, they can be bought very cheap these days and that might be a good place for you to start since you have art of your own to scan. Many scanners come with a basic graphics program included in their software and while it might not be the program you end up using as your favorite  it does give you something to play around with to get started.  Almost all the programs have  similar basic quality enhancement and resizing and saving to different formats features.
I look forward to seeing some of your art work.
 
Howdy, Alamo Jim--

So pleased that you moseyed over to give me a welcoming post.  I am thrilled
to have my own Alamo and Cowboy pictures in a post all for me.

I have downloaded some new stationeries, this time correctly with the
artist's name included, and so I plan to start off posting that way, if it's
acceptable.  Then I will try to absorb some of the instructions that I have
saved from the different posts so generously given yesterday so I can begin
to think about how to do some original stuff.  It'll be a start, right?  I
have downloaded Winzip and some kind of Irfan View thing.  Now I need to
figure that all out.  It is supposed to be the place to start, I believe.  I
wish there were a very simple book for children about how to create
stationery.  I believe that  such a simple plain book would be the simplest
way for a visually oriented grown-up (?????) person like me to start off and
get the basics.

Keep you fingers crossed.  Is the world ready for this??

Thanks again for the welcome, Buckaroo.  Come a tie yi yippee yippee yay
yippie yay, come a tie yi yippee yippee yay.

Jane
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    AlamoJim wrote in message ...
    Enjoyed your comments Jane and hope you will join with your own posts
soon.  This truly is a great community newsgroup, never lacking for support
or encouragement.  Welcome!!







Jane Nunez

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Aug 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/29/98
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Thank you, Katrinka,

With your help I'll be posting something original One Of These Days. Thank
you very much for the kind welcome.

Best wishes,
Jane
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Katrinka wrote in message ...
>Welcome to the group Jane... :)
>
>--
>Kat :)
>katr...@msn.com
>The shadows lift, the darkness fades
>-and if for faith you pray-
>God always grants the miracle and sends another day.


Jane Nunez

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OK, Geeky, I have saved this message from you so I can try to rework my newsgroup management techniques.  The way I have it now I have to rush around all over the place like a chicken with its head cut off to make sure I see again everything I've read before it mysteriously disappears on its own.  All the letters I read mysteriously disappear like this,  and it makes me frantic.  And I'm not deleting anything after I read it, that I know of.  After I read it, it disappears in about five minutes on its own.
 
So life doesn't have to BE this way???  What a nice thing to know. 
 
Thanks so much for the help.  Your intuition was RIGHT ON.  I think things will get better once I reset the reading properties or something up there in my toolbar.  I'll look under "Tools"  or  "Reading Properties" or something like that and try to set it better.  IMFR (Is My Face Red). 
 
Loved the dragon----green cliffs posting.  Also your the tesselated checkerboarded and very colorful DOP----eyejolting indeed.  Who needs caffeine with That baby in the "saved" folder?
 
I'll keep smilin', and one day it'll all be clear.  Thanks again.
 
Jane
Geeky wrote in message ...
Yes! You are sending in html format, so I see what you see. What do you mean they're all gone? I see headers that go back several days. Are you deleting them after you read them? I just remove DLd msg bodies ... that way I still see the thread with the replies ... and I try to reset the entire NG about the same time they reset the servers ... every two weeks or so ...
 
Keep Smilin'
 
Geeky

Jane Nunez

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Hi, Joan F (MI),
 
Thank you so much for the warm welcome and also for the most helpful and upbeat  information on scanners.  I have been secretly wanting a scanner for a while now, and it is great to know that scanners often come with their own graphics programs incorporated.  That would  certainly make for a more seamless learning process.  Meanwhile, I plan to keep on learning gradually through all the great fun I'm having here!!  And from all the wonderful informational resources you all are sharing with me.  It's mind boggling to realize all the work that's been done on stationery creation in such a sort span of years--Majik's fine website being a prime example. 
 
Thanks again,
Jane
 
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Joan F (MI) wrote in message ...

Curmudgeon - Bill B.

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Mark I recently got a new speech to text program from Dragon Systems called
"Point and Speak." Its at CompUSA for <$50. After some "training," it
works extremely well and much faster than typing, even if you use all your
fingers. I type almost all day and use it to reply to posts when I get home
to rest the joints. It's not perfect, but it is really good. The trick is
to learn how to dictate your thoughts instead of typing them. It is not as
easy as I thought it was. If you do "chat," it is awesome!!! The other guys
keep saying "how the heck can you type that fast!" <bg>

Curmudgeon - Bill B.
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Mark Schwartzbauer wrote in message
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Curmudgeon - Bill B.

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I really like this one Steve... The colors are almost florescent! Great
midi too.

Curmudgeon - Bill B.
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SumDo wrote in message <#KWRiI6...@uppssnewspub04.moswest.msn.net>...
Hi, Jane.
Definitely welcome. I have come up with a better e-mail button on this
one.
You should have e-mails for the Hints & Tips and Svens OE
Troubleshooter.

Midi: Welcome to Our World.
Steve aka SumDo

Jane Nunez

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Thanks so much, Bill, for the kind welcome. It is such a nice feeling to
dialogue at last with everyone "in person." From having admired everyone's
art from afar for so long, now that I'm finall delurking I feel as if I'm
meeting movie stars! I will be a bit slow to come on line with any original
posts and hope you and everyone will not mind. Thanks again!

All the best,
Jane

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Jane Nunez

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Hey, Rocky--

I think what finally blew my mind and made me delurk was the circuits you
snapped in my head with that wild series of gorgeous colorful animated
geometric DOPs last week. (DOPs is such a negative term for something so
psychedelic and fine.) It was simply inspirational, and I kept thinking,
"There COULDN'T BE MORE...", but there was ALWAYS more. A dizzying and
transporting sensation. If this is not the realm of the "truly bizarre," as
your welcoming MIDI (WAV?) says, at least I do know that it is the realm of
the truly obsessed, and I feel so right-at-home here. We all are the kind
of people that get the work of the world done, both beautifully and in our
own way! Isn't that right?

Thanks again for the kind welcome!

Best wishes and enjoy your new sound card thing (right?).

Jane
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Rocky wrote in message ...
Welcome to the addiction!!!!!!!!!!!

Rocky

btw....Very nice and beautiful what you have said here!!!!!


Jane Nunez

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HI, Steve,

You know I love this delicious watercolor flower with all the vibrant
colors. And the new gentler MIDI fits it quite nicely also, bringing out a
different quality from the qualities brought out by "We'll Sing in the
Sunshine," which was also perfect and more like late March or early April
while the later MIDI reminds me of early September. Couldn't say exactly
why. Anyway, this stationery is a triumph both visually and audio-wise.
Thanks for both versions. Now I'm RICH rich RiCh rIcH ricH RiCH riCH
RIch!!!

You are most kind to relay the two "hints" pages. I know they will be an
immense help.

Very Cordially,
Jane

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Jane Nunez

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Harty har har har!! Rocky, you really hit the nail on the ol' head with
THAT recording! I think Mark holds the record for today, though! When does
he sleep? And anyway, there could be worse addictions........

But I'm worried that if I don't quit writing and start producing stationery,
I will be baNNed. After all, it IS a stationery group. I think I'll
transition by using stolen, er, borrowed stationery for my comments. Or by
bouncing people's backgrounds back to them with altered fonts. Sneaky, huh?
Will folks be fooled? After all, my motto is, "Keep 'em guessing!" Laurel
the Cat is going to be so disappointed when she sees how lackluster my
artistic talents really are. I'm actually getting stage fright, and I still
am nowhere near ready to post.

Funny funny funny what your post said! Thanks!

Jane
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Rocky wrote in message <#e8CES80...@uppssnewspub04.moswest.msn.net>...
Thanks Jane! It's a new video card. LOL
That was a trip all right. Seemed slow that night so I just went nuts! LOL

Rocky

Rocky

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Aug 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/29/98
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Hey Jane to get your feet wet you can start with the installed stationery
that comes with OE. Go to the little bar next to New Message and select one
of the pre-installed ones. A lot of us are always available by e-mail and
ICQ to help with any questions as you start the hurdle with the HTML. After
the first post with script and getting your feet wet with it it's even more
addicting then you think you are already Plenty of help here to get you
running!!!!

Rocky

ICQ uin# 15871422
ICQ me anytime or e-mail me no problem.


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Old Redneck

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It's called "creatively acquiring". If you don't do it we may feel bad <LOL>

Dave


Jane Nunez

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Howdy, Dave Redneck--

"Creatively acquiring" is the perfect term for it, and since all members
would feel hurt if their hard-worked, painfully created original designs
WEREN'T being "creatively acquired," then as the compassionate
humanitarian that I am, the only respectable course of action will have to
be to "creatively acquire" as much stationery as I possibly can as created
by the resident stationery newsgroup artists!! It's the very KINDEST thing
I can do. And in fact, actually I'd be the one doing THEM the favor,
RIGHT????

I think you and I are going to be great pals!

ROTFLMsomethingO

Thanks beyond measure!!

Jane
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Old Redneck

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ROTFLMAO

Dave


Old Redneck

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Ok that's one I havent seen ... I'll bite what the heck does OIMNXTC stand
for ???

Dave


Stargate

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Glad you asked....grin Now I don't have to feel so dumb for not knowing....ooops, I didn't want everyone to know I didn't know, or that I was (notice the word was...lol) so dumb (no smart arse remarks...You hear that Craig?) VBS

Old Redneck wrote in message ...

Jane Nunez

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OK, say the letters out loud.


O I M N X T C


Oh I am in ecs-ta-sy.

Saw it as a license plate. Wouldn't want to have to meet that driver on a
curvy counbtry road late at night!!

Night night! Thanks for the fun. And the help.

Janie
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Jane Nunez

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Hey, Stargate--

Saw in on a licese plate. Means:
Oh I am in Ecstasy!!

What will they think of next??

Nighty night.

Jane
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Stargate wrote in message ...


Glad you asked....grin Now I don't have to feel so dumb for not
knowing....ooops, I didn't want everyone to know I didn't know, or that I
was (notice the word was...lol) so dumb (no smart arse remarks...You hear
that Craig?) VBS

Old Redneck wrote in message ...

Joe Cilinceon

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That makes 3 of us it isn't in my dictionary vbg

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Joe Cilinceon
http://home.gzinc.com/newdawn


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Stargate

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That explains it....LOL I'm not in in ecstasy yet but a few more posts like I've been viewing I could get close. Anybody have the cigar?


Jane Nunez wrote in message ...


OK, say the letters out loud.


O I M N X T C


Oh I am in ecs-ta-sy.

Saw it as a license plate. Wouldn't want to have to meet that driver on a
curvy counbtry road late at night!!

Night night! Thanks for the fun. And the help.

Janie
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Old Redneck wrote in message ...

Stargate

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Night Jane, replied to the one you posted to Red....Sweet Dreams Jane and Thanks

Jane Nunez wrote in message ...

Hey, Stargate--

Saw in on a licese plate. Means:
Oh I am in Ecstasy!!

What will they think of next??

Nighty night.

Jane
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Stargate wrote in message ...

Glad you asked....grin Now I don't have to feel so dumb for not
knowing....ooops, I didn't want everyone to know I didn't know, or that I
was (notice the word was...lol) so dumb (no smart arse remarks...You hear
that Craig?) VBS

Old Redneck wrote in message ...

Joe Cilinceon

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Thanks for that I was confused but that isn't hard to do to me. LOL

--

Joe Cilinceon
http://home.gzinc.com/newdawn


Jane Nunez <bright...@email.msn.com> wrote in message

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>O Gifted One--
>
>OIMNXTC means :
> Oh I am in ecstasy
>
>Saw it on a license plate!!
>
>Too weird, huh??
>
>I see that you've had a busy day fielding raves.
>
>Night Night. God bless.
>
>Jane
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>Joe Cilinceon wrote in message ...

Jane Nunez

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Aug 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/30/98
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Dern. I'm missing all the racy stuff by playing GoodGirl and primly
answering mail instead of going browsing and kicking up some dust!!
Mmmmmmm

Too late now to browse. As they say in France, I'm tres fatiguee....and
hitting the hay. The last part is what they say in Iowa.

Night night.

Jane
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Stargate wrote in message ...

Jane Nunez

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Thanks for the note, Stargate. Glad I could help!! Funny, isn't it??

Night night.

Jane
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Jane Nunez

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Mark Schwartzbauer

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Thanks, Bill. I've thought about speech to text programs before...and
thought I'd give 'em some more time to develop the technology. It is good
to hear progress is being made in that area. Sometime I'll give it a try...
Again, thank you.

Mark

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Old Redneck

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OK ... Well I guess that explains it ... Hummmm ... <LOL>

Dave


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