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exlibris

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Jul 24, 2009, 8:47:01 PM7/24/09
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The scroll bar vanished on one of my web pages while updating with FrontPage
2002. How do I retrieve and/or add a scroll bar? Thanks!
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Ronx

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Jul 25, 2009, 3:12:25 AM7/25/09
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The usual way to add a scroll bar is to add sufficient content that a scroll
bar is needed. However in your case it sounds like the scroll bar has been
removed. This can be done by using a CSS attribute such as
overflow: hidden; within a CSS rule for a class or page element.
We will need to see a page with missing scrollbars to see what has occurred
and how to correct it.

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exlibris

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Jul 25, 2009, 12:17:02 PM7/25/09
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Thanks for your reply. I've spent hours trying to recover this scroll bar
that appears on every page of our site--it simply vanished from our last page.

The page in trouble is: http://www.bookplate.org/Current Issue/Items for
Sale.htm

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Ronx

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Jul 25, 2009, 1:39:59 PM7/25/09
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Change in code view (at line 5):

<style>
<!--
BODY {
MARGIN: 0px; OVERFLOW: hidden; WIDTH: 100%; HEIGHT: 100%
}
BODY {
MARGIN: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif
}


to


<style type="text/css">
<!--
BODY {
MARGIN: 0 15px; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif;
background: #003399;
}
html, body {height: 100%; margin-bottom: 1px;}
a:link {color: #3366cc; }
a:visited {color: #6699ff; }


Also Change:

<body BGCOLOR="#003399" LINK="#3366CC" VLINK="#6699FF" leftmargin="15">

to

<body>


This provides a 15px left/right margin, and ensures the presence of the
scroll bar and link colours in ALL browsers.

I suggest you give the CSS classes meaningful names, since what is there
will become a nightmare to maintain.
Is cP the same as Cp or cp or CP?

Also remove all spaces from folder and file names. Spaces break links in
some browsers, email clients and newsreaders.

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exlibris

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Jul 25, 2009, 4:45:01 PM7/25/09
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Thank you Ron, I don't understand how it became LOST, but I changed the code
according to your note and it works perfectly now. Thank you. Thank you.

Ronx

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Jul 26, 2009, 3:32:07 AM7/26/09
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The original CSS for the <body> tag included Overflow: hidden - this
switches off scrollbars...

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RKellner

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Oct 7, 2009, 1:02:02 PM10/7/09
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I'm having the same problem. I believe it's in line 35, but i am not sure to
what i should change it? the URL is
http://www.robinkellner.com/opportunities.htm

Ronx

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Oct 7, 2009, 2:09:30 PM10/7/09
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Yes - in line 35, delete:
body{overflow:hidden}body{overflow:visible;margin:3px 8px 0}

Change:
body{margin:3px 0 0} to body{margin:3px 8px 0}

There isn lots of CSS countermanding other CSS, such as
panel{position:absolute;top:0;left:0;z-index:2} over-ruled by
#panel{position:relative;float:none;width:100%}

and lots of styles that are not used in the page, such as
panel{position:absolute;top:0;left:0;z-index:2} over-ruled by
#panel{position:relative;float:none;width:100%}

Also, the space bar is not a layout tool - spaces do NOT have a fixed width,
so the layout will change from browser to browser, user to user. - look for
groups of &nbsp; which should be replaced by margins and/or padding.

There are several useless styles - valid, but useless. How does a browser
render "margin-bottom:.0001pt" 1pt is 1/72 of an inch, so this represents a
very, very small fraction of a pixel. Word adds a lot of styles that are
only useful when printing the page.
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RKellner

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Oct 7, 2009, 3:04:05 PM10/7/09
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Thanks, Ron

I only know the basics of Code View & mostly work in Design...I know it's
not the most reliable way to create a page, alas. Thanks again.

"Ronx" wrote:

> Yes - in line 35, delete:
> body{overflow:hidden}body{overflow:visible;margin:3px 8px 0}
>
> Change:
> body{margin:3px 0 0} to body{margin:3px 8px 0}
>
> There isn lots of CSS countermanding other CSS, such as
> panel{position:absolute;top:0;left:0;z-index:2} over-ruled by
> #panel{position:relative;float:none;width:100%}
>
> and lots of styles that are not used in the page, such as
> panel{position:absolute;top:0;left:0;z-index:2} over-ruled by
> #panel{position:relative;float:none;width:100%}
>
> Also, the space bar is not a layout tool - spaces do NOT have a fixed width,
> so the layout will change from browser to browser, user to user. - look for

> groups of which should be replaced by margins and/or padding.

EAHORC

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Nov 26, 2009, 1:16:01 PM11/26/09
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I have the same problem with all my direction pages, now anyway.

Everything else on my site works but all the direction pages, which show
people how to get to various slot car venues, open in new windows (which is
fine) but have no scroll bars (which is not).

Here is a couple of examples:

http://www.bglawns.com/directions_Kingslynn.htm

http://www.bglawns.com/directions_pinewood.htm

Regds - Deane

Ronx

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Nov 27, 2009, 2:55:02 AM11/27/09
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Same solution for both pages: remove all references to overflow: hidden,
and overflow: visible.

The CSS can be re-written as:

<style type="text/css">
<!--
body {font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background:
#fff; color: #000; margin: 3px 8px 0; }
-->
</style>

Also remove the references to class="MsoNormal" - this class is not defined
and is a carry over from copy/paste from Word or other MS product.

The rest can be removed since it does not appear in the page.
/*.mapPanelStart {left: 29.32em; }
.mapPanelMarginEnd {margin-right: 29.32em; }
#map {clear: both; }
#map {margin-left: 8px; /*overflow: hidden;*/ border: 0px none; }
#map {position: relative; z-index: 1; background: #e5e3df; /*overflow:
hidden;*/ }
#map {position: relative; }
#map {margin-left: 0; margin-right: 0; left: 0; border: 1px solid
#979797; }*/


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