Rounded Corners
ANONYMOUS
programmers:
"As we improve support in IE for technologies that site developers use,
the score will continue to go up. A more meaningful (from the point of
view of web developers) example of standards support involves rounded
corners. Here�s IE9 drawing rounded corners, along with the underlying
mark-up:"
<http://ieblog.members.winisp.net/images/Dean_PDC_4.png>
The full article is here:
<http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2009/11/18/an-early-look-at-ie9-for-developers.aspx>
Gregory A. Beamer
@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
> IE9 will support rounded corners! Now this must be progress by M$
> programmers:
No more using images. Great. But it will be proprietary, which means your
rounded corners will not work in all browsers.
Peace and Grace,
--
Gregory A. Beamer (MVP)
Twitter: @gbworld
Blog: http://gregorybeamer.spaces.live.com
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KathyW
Firefox and others added this feature earlier, but they did it in different
ways and in a way that does not comply with the current CSS3 draft
("-moz-border-radius", "-webkit-border-radius",
"-moz-border-radius-topright", etc.). The markup shown in that IE9 blog is
consistent with CSS3 draft as of Oct 2009,
(http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-background/#the-border-radius ). This is one case
where you blame the other browsers, not IE.
"Gregory A. Beamer" wrote:
> .
>
Gregory A. Beamer
news:691EC80D-D7EB-4725...@microsoft.com:
> It will be as standard as it can be, considering CSS3 is still in
> draft. Firefox and others added this feature earlier, but they did it
> in different ways and in a way that does not comply with the current
> CSS3 draft ("-moz-border-radius", "-webkit-border-radius",
> "-moz-border-radius-topright", etc.). The markup shown in that IE9
> blog is consistent with CSS3 draft as of Oct 2009,
> (http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-background/#the-border-radius ). This is
> one case where you blame the other browsers, not IE.
Standards compliance is a rather difficult refactor, esp. if you solved
the problem prior to the standard. The difficulty is exacerbated by
having to not break the "older" method when you institute the new.
Fortuantely, MS is behind the curve here and focusing on the future
standard (which probably won't change).
Helpful person
>
> Standards compliance is a rather difficult refactor, esp. if you solved
> the problem prior to the standard. The difficulty is exacerbated by
> having to not break the "older" method when you institute the new.
> Fortuantely, MS is behind the curve here and focusing on the future
> standard (which probably won't change).
>
> Peace and Grace,
>
> --
> Gregory A. Beamer (MVP)
forum?
Ronx
used for building standards compliant pages as well. It's all down to the
user's skill and knowledge.
--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (Expression Web)
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
"Helpful person" <rrl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a627fb64-7673-4475...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
ANONYMOUS
Helpful person wrote:
> Does it make sense to worry about standards compliance in a Frontpage
>
>forum?
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Sure. standards are very important in web design technology because
there are many browsers out there and without standards, we would not be
able to service our customers because they may not be using the browser
for which the web was intended for.
Up to now Mcrosoft only cared about its own standards but it seems the
competition is catching up with them. It can no longer take for granted
that everybody is or should be using IE!.
hth
ANONYMOUS
-moz-border-radius-topleft: 100px;
-webkit-border-top-left-radius: 100px;
-moz-border-radius-topright: 66.66px;
-webkit-border-top-right-radius: 66.66px;
-moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 50px;
-webkit-border-bottom-left-radius: 50px;
-moz-border-radius-bottomright: 200px;
-webkit-border-bottom-right-radius: 200px;
border-left: 5px orange double;
border-right: 5px orange double;
border-top: 5px orange double;
border-bottom: 5px orange double;
padding-bottom: 24px;
padding-left: 24px;
padding-right: 24px;
padding-top: 24px;
background-color: #ccc;
width: 780px;
KathyW
proprietary method (such as Mozilla's). That's the only point I was making.
"ANONYMOUS" wrote:
> .
>
Gregory A. Beamer
e9db0b...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:
> Does it make sense to worry about standards compliance in a Frontpage
> forum?
Only if you think web designers should worry about compliance.
Peace and Grace,
--
Gregory A. Beamer (MVP)
Twitter: @gbworld
Phil Brighton- UKWDA Accredited
http://www.html.it/articoli/niftycube/index.html this does rely on JS turned
on.
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Web Designer Magazine (EW) Writer and Forum Moderator EW
http://webdesignermag.co.uk/forum/
"ANONYMOUS" wrote:
> IE9 will support rounded corners! Now this must be progress by M$
> programmers:
>
> "As we improve support in IE for technologies that site developers use,
> the score will continue to go up. A more meaningful (from the point of
> view of web developers) example of standards support involves rounded
> corners. Here’s IE9 drawing rounded corners, along with the underlying
> mark-up:"
>
> <http://ieblog.members.winisp.net/images/Dean_PDC_4.png>
>
> The full article is here:
>
> <http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2009/11/18/an-early-look-at-ie9-for-developers.aspx>
>
> .
>
Helpful person
>
> Only if you think web designers should worry about compliance.
>
> Peace and Grace,
>
> --
> Gregory A. Beamer (MVP)
If they are worried about compliance they are probably should not be
using front page.
ANONYMOUS
Helpful person wrote:
>If they are worried about compliance they are probably should not be
>using front page.
>
>
>
>
Correct. Microsoft anticipated your opinion to be posted on FP
newsgroups so few years ago (well before you decided to cough it out!)
released a new product called Expression Web. This new product has
replaced FP 2003 and it uses the latest W3 Standards. I suggest you
better get into it as you will certainly enjoy it using html and css to
style your webpage. CSS is an art which will keep you entertained and
make you highly creative.
For a starter if you want to know what CSS can do for you, I suggest
read this article/tutorial and actually doing something using your computer:
http://www.w3.org/Style/Examples/011/firstcss
You don't need any tools except a web browser and notepad.
Good luck and let us know how did you get on with it..
Helpful person
You must be kidding! Why would I want to use a third party program
rather than HTML, CSS and Javascript? Even if it really is standards
compliant it will not create code as succint as using the basic
languages.
ANONYMOUS
Helpful person wrote:
>You must be kidding! Why would I want to use a third party program
>rather than HTML, CSS and Javascript? Even if it really is standards
>compliant it will not create code as succint as using the basic
>languages.
>
>
>
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Well Mr HelpfulPerson,
where the hell did you get the idea that I was recommending a third
party program? CAN YOU READ?
I was indeed recommending you to use HTML and CSS. I don't think you
should use javascript because looking at your website, all you need is a
Notepad (Microsoft free product already on your windows OS) and any
browser (again all free).
You seem to have very serious learning difficulties because in my short
message, you came to the conclusion that I am recommending a third
party program. Have you seen your doctor about your problems?
Helpful person
ANONYMOUS
Helpful person wrote:
>I thought you suggested I use Expression Web.
>
Have you been hearing voices again? If so then the problem is best
solved by a psychiatry (or whatever they call these days). We are not
in a position to help you on that front.
Expression Web is good tool but if you are suffering from learning
difficulties then I suggest stick with FP 2003 for now.