EW3 upgrade price
Joskin
I saw that there was an option to upgrade my EW1 to EW3 for $79.
$79 converts to �47.89 GB Pounds at the current exchange rate - it seemed
reasonable so I started the purchase procedure.
I was taken to a European MS site where the price was �86.00 GB Pounds - it
explained that there was a 15% tax added for European purchases.
But �47.89 + 15% = �55.08
It looks like I'll stay with EW1 - who is trying to rip me off?
Joskin (UK)
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of it. See yourself what's the prise for a DVD shipping.
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Ronx
In this case it looks like Digital River - but they may get pricing from
Microsoft.
As Senn said, the UK Microsoft store is offering a download for £62, but
http://misco.co.uk are listing the boxed version at £60.00 (none in stock)
Also bear in mind the $$ price quoted excludes sales taxes paid in USA -
often around 8 or 10%, and UK prices are never a direct translation of the
$$ price - if they were the price would vary hour to hour, though when it
comes to software I usually find the $/£ rate to be nearer 1-1 than
whatever the banks say it is.
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Shenan Stanley
If you wait for about 6 weeks then you will be able get a crack to
convert trial version to full version. This should be the best option
for you.
The alternative is to travel to the states and buy from there. This
would cost you $79 plus your air ticket and hotel expenses.
Or you could download DW CS4 trial version and look for a crack to
convert it to full version.
The choice is yours.
Peter R. Fletcher
to determine. Microsoft's � prices for most things (hardware,
software, MSDN subscriptions) are and have always been significantly
higher than what you would expect if you simply applied a current
exchange rate to the dollar price. They may (now) argue that they are
recouping the considerable costs of doing business in the EU, but the
differential antedates the worst of these (for Microsoft). They also
get you (for subscriptions, at least) if you move across the Atlantic
- you cannot simply update an annual MSDN subscription purchased when
you lived on one side of the Atlantic if you now live on the other -
you have to buy a new subscription for the full price!
senn
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income"
I ran into this information some years ago on a page of MS's own. What
"per capita income" means is explained here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_capita_income
Though, it does not fully explain price differences. But buying EW3 in us.
at the ms-store page informed price of $79. Wound't it be included a vat ?.
If so it came closer to a uk. ms-store price of �62, which has all included
(except a DVD shipping).
/senn
Gregory A. Beamer
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> Hello,
> I saw that there was an option to upgrade my EW1 to EW3 for $79.
> $79 converts to �ｿｽ47.89 GB Pounds at the current exchange rate - it
> seemed reasonable so I started the purchase procedure.
> I was taken to a European MS site where the price was �ｿｽ86.00 GB Pounds
> - it explained that there was a 15% tax added for European purchases.
> But �ｿｽ47.89 + 15% = �ｿｽ55.08
> It looks like I'll stay with EW1 - who is trying to rip me off?
My actual price, if I bought it in my state would be $86.31. This would
equate, with today's exchange rate, would equate to �ｿｽ52.36.
When you look at Microsoft's pricing of �ｿｽ60 minus 15% tax, the pricing
is �ｿｽ52.18 for the product sans taxes. This means the UK rate, if you buy
at Microsoft's �ｿｽ60 suggested retail, is 18 pence cheaper than it should
be. But, since the rates change quite a bit ...
The pricing of �ｿｽ86.00 is probably a partner site?
Now, sticking with EW1 is a decision that can be made regardless of
pricing. ;-)
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Joskin
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Thank you all, for your input.
Joskin
Tom Miller
price of any product after its manufactured costs. This might explain the
differences between the USD/Pounds price.
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AFAIK, VAT varies between 15% to 21%, currently 15% in UK.
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Dave Mills
>It explains some of the extra cost, but usually no where near all of it.
>AFAIK, VAT varies between 15% to 21%, currently 15% in UK.
But most company purchases do not pay VAT as the cost is recoverable against VAT
on any sales i.e. my company buys �1000 of stuff and pays �150 VAT (at 15%
rate). It then sells other stuff including consultancy for �2000 and charges VAT
of �300 to the client. It pays only �150 (the difference) to the government.
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Peter R. Fletcher
wrote:
I was excluding tax from the prices on both sides of the Atlantic. VAT
in the EU is higher (and more difficult to avoid!) than the total
(State + Locality) Sales Tax in any US jurisdiction that I know of,
which makes things worse, but a substantial differential exists (and
has always done so) even without that.
You can also usually get better deals that Microsoft's direct prices
for most of their "products" on both sides of the Atlantic, but the
transatlantic price differential tends to be maintained even between
the best deals on either side.
kenrowan
Joskin wrote:
EW3 upgrade price
11-Aug-09
Hello,
I saw that there was an option to upgrade my EW1 to EW3 for $79.
$79 converts to ?47.89 GB Pounds at the current exchange rate - it seemed
reasonable so I started the purchase procedure.
I was taken to a European MS site where the price was ?86.00 GB Pounds - it
explained that there was a 15% tax added for European purchases.
But ?47.89 + 15% = ?55.08
It looks like I will stay with EW1 - who is trying to rip me off?
Joskin (UK)
Previous Posts In This Thread:
On Tuesday, 11 August 2009 1:08 PM
Joskin wrote:
EW3 upgrade price
Hello,
I saw that there was an option to upgrade my EW1 to EW3 for $79.
$79 converts to ?47.89 GB Pounds at the current exchange rate - it seemed
reasonable so I started the purchase procedure.
I was taken to a European MS site where the price was ?86.00 GB Pounds - it
explained that there was a 15% tax added for European purchases.
But ?47.89 + 15% = ?55.08
It looks like I will stay with EW1 - who is trying to rip me off?
Joskin (UK)
On Tuesday, 11 August 2009 1:34 PM
David B. wrote:
Your government?
Your government?
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On Tuesday, 11 August 2009 1:36 PM
senn wrote:
Re: EW3 upgrade price
"Joskin" <reply@newsgroup> skrev i meddelelsen
The prise in UK is ?62.52 at this MS-UK store. That's for a download
of it. See yourself what is the prise for a DVD shipping.
/senn
http://emea.microsoftstore.com/UK/Microsoft/Design-+-Developer/Expression-3
On Tuesday, 11 August 2009 2:03 PM
Ronx wrote:
"who is trying to rip me off?
"who is trying to rip me off?
In this case it looks like Digital River - but they may get pricing from
Microsoft.
As Senn said, the UK Microsoft store is offering a download for ??62, but
http://misco.co.uk are listing the boxed version at ??60.00 (none in stock)
Also bear in mind the $$ price quoted excludes sales taxes paid in USA -
often around 8 or 10%, and UK prices are never a direct translation of the
$$ price - if they were the price would vary hour to hour, though when it
comes to software I usually find the $/?? rate to be nearer 1-1 than
whatever the banks say it is.
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On Tuesday, 11 August 2009 3:54 PM
KathyW wrote:
Remember that pricing in different countries is not simply a matter of
Remember that pricing in different countries is not simply a matter of
conversion rates. Companies have many inputs to pricing decisions.
"Joskin" wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 August 2009 5:46 PM
Peter R. Fletcher wrote:
Unfortunately, and for no rational reason that I have ever been ableto
Unfortunately, and for no rational reason that I have ever been able
to determine. Microsoft's ? prices for most things (hardware,
software, MSDN subscriptions) are and have always been significantly
higher than what you would expect if you simply applied a current
exchange rate to the dollar price. They may (now) argue that they are
recouping the considerable costs of doing business in the EU, but the
differential antedates the worst of these (for Microsoft). They also
get you (for subscriptions, at least) if you move across the Atlantic
- you cannot simply update an annual MSDN subscription purchased when
you lived on one side of the Atlantic if you now live on the other -
you have to buy a new subscription for the full price!
On Wednesday, 12 August 2009 3:14 AM
senn wrote:
Re: EW3 upgrade price
Their prices in individual contries is partly determined by "per capita
income"
I ran into this information some years ago on a page of MS's own. What
"per capita income" means is explained here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_capita_income
Though, it does not fully explain price differences. But buying EW3 in us.
at the ms-store page informed price of $79. Wound't it be included a vat ?.
If so it came closer to a uk. ms-store price of ?62, which has all included
(except a DVD shipping).
/senn
On Wednesday, 12 August 2009 4:48 PM
Gregory A. Beamer wrote:
Re: EW3 upgrade price
"Joskin" <reply@newsgroup> wrote in
My actual price, if I bought it in my state would be $86.31. This would
equate, with today's exchange rate, would equate to ?52.36.
When you look at Microsoft's pricing of ?60 minus 15% tax, the pricing
is ?52.18 for the product sans taxes. This means the UK rate, if you buy
at Microsoft's ?60 suggested retail, is 18 pence cheaper than it should
be. But, since the rates change quite a bit ...
The pricing of ?86.00 is probably a partner site?
Now, sticking with EW1 is a decision that can be made regardless of
pricing. ;-)
--
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MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA
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On Thursday, 13 August 2009 3:17 AM
Shenan Stanley wrote:
If you wait for about 6 weeks then you will be able get a crack toconvert
If you wait for about 6 weeks then you will be able get a crack to
convert trial version to full version. This should be the best option
for you.
The alternative is to travel to the states and buy from there. This
would cost you $79 plus your air ticket and hotel expenses.
Or you could download DW CS4 trial version and look for a crack to
convert it to full version.
The choice is yours.
ed
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On Friday, 14 August 2009 6:44 AM
Joskin wrote:
Re: EW3 upgrade price
Finally found it in the UK for ?58.79 - happy with that!
Thank you all, for your input.
Joskin
On Friday, 14 August 2009 9:28 AM
Tom Miller wrote:
I thought the E.U.
I thought the E.U. had something called a Value Added Tax that increased the
price of any product after its manufactured costs. This might explain the
differences between the USD/Pounds price.
Tom
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On Friday, 14 August 2009 9:39 AM
Ronx wrote:
It explains some of the extra cost, but usually no where near all of it.
It explains some of the extra cost, but usually no where near all of it.
AFAIK, VAT varies between 15% to 21%, currently 15% in UK.
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On Friday, 14 August 2009 1:46 PM
senn wrote:
Re: EW3 upgrade price
25% Ronx. That is it here in dk.
/senn
On Saturday, 15 August 2009 1:31 AM
Dave Mills wrote:
Re: EW3 upgrade price
But most company purchases do not pay VAT as the cost is recoverable against VAT
on any sales i.e. my company buys ?1000 of stuff and pays ?150 VAT (at 15%
rate). It then sells other stuff including consultancy for ?2000 and charges VAT
of ?300 to the client. It pays only ?150 (the difference) to the government.
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On Sunday, 16 August 2009 5:45 PM
Peter R. Fletcher wrote:
Re: EW3 upgrade price
wrote:
I was excluding tax from the prices on both sides of the Atlantic. VAT
in the EU is higher (and more difficult to avoid!) than the total
(State + Locality) Sales Tax in any US jurisdiction that I know of,
which makes things worse, but a substantial differential exists (and
has always done so) even without that.
You can also usually get better deals that Microsoft's direct prices
for most of their "products" on both sides of the Atlantic, but the
transatlantic price differential tends to be maintained even between
the best deals on either side.
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