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Panicking in Prince George

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Apr 7, 2005, 7:35:15 PM4/7/05
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Hello All

So I've just been cruising thru this site and the MCP community page and it
seems like 99 to 1 fail this exam?!? What's up?

I'm a newly minted MCSA W2K having just passed my Security+ and now turning
to Page 1 of my MS Press Self-Paced Training Kit for Exams 292 and 296.
Should I be scared?

I've always heard the 216 was the tough one...do we have new competition for
that dubious honour? Most everyone that posted felt they had did well on the
exam and were shocked not to pass and in some cases by a fair margin. Could
there be problems with the exam or the new exam engines?

I'm hoping to write the exam before May 31st, but until I hear better news
I'm not saying what year.

Cheers, Paul

Mark [MS]

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Apr 7, 2005, 7:49:03 PM4/7/05
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Im in the same boat myself, have the book sitting in front of me. However i
think im gonna hold off and get my MCSE: Security & Messenging on 2000, and
hope that in them couple of months that this gets sorted out... Im not sure
whether the difficulty has greatly increase, or if its just the marking that
has!!

Either way the posts on this site havent been good in the last month. If
anybody has failed/passed the exam, please post what you thought of it. It
may help others in their preparation.

Mark.

Brian K. Doré

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Apr 7, 2005, 10:39:58 PM4/7/05
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> If anybody has failed/passed the exam, please post what you thought of
> it. It
> may help others in their preparation.

I passed 70-292 last week with a score of 700. I had 6 result bars, 3 at
100% and 3 at about 80%. It took me about 50 minutes.

Honestly, I didn't prepare. I passed all of the other 2003 exams in beta
last year and just got around to taking this one. Passing this one test
made me MCSE Security and MCSA Security for 2003 Server. (I work full time
as a 2003 Systems Administrator so I spend 60/hours a week actually using
this stuff.) I'm kind of glad I didn't look here before I went! <grin>

As far as the questions went, the large majority of them weren't very hard.
There were some others that required what I would consider some fairly
obscure knowledge. As always with these, a broad background to eliminate
the obviously wrong answers is important. There was one question I
probably spent 5 minutes on, marked, and looked over a couple more before
making a best guess and moving on. On that question I didn't see a correct
answer, and still have no idea. I assume it's one I missed. It might have
been something simple I just didn't get.

The test required some book knowledge and some hands-on too; not just with
2003 Server, but with related technologies like SUS and MBSA as well. I do
remember a few questions that I don't think would easily fit under any of
the categories on the preparation guide. If you work in a shop that uses
third party tools like Citrix and Veritas Backup, uses third party patch
management, recovery and security tools, etc you should spend some time
becoming familiar with the 'built-in' versions of these tools. Definitely
know DNS, and the specific capabilites of Windows 2003 DNS including
directory integration and application partitions. The test is very diverse,
and covers some things most admins don't do often like Automated system
recovery.

I thought I'd post so others know the test is difficult, but it can be
passed. I'm definitely a little disapointed in my score, even if the
psychometricians say all passes are statistically pretty much the same.

Hope this helps,

Brian


fmsmcse

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Apr 10, 2005, 8:33:02 AM4/10/05
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I'm confident it does not measure us the way it should.
I failed twice and up to now I did not realize what I missed.

Yes, 216 was like the most difficult and I passed at first try.
Now, 292 has something that makes any MCSE get pi$$ed off.

People keep on saying it's not that difficult, that they passed with 700,
but that's the lowest score, how about doing 900, 950 like in the other exams
for 2000???

markm200

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Apr 11, 2005, 9:32:13 AM4/11/05
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I just took the test and failed with 664. I have taken
over 20 MCSE tests in the past 10 years and this is the
first that I have failed. The questions are very poorly
written and the "best" answers are missing about 20% of
the time. There were no "bars" telling me where I need
work and there were only 40 questions. They recently
changed the test (in the last 6 months or so)an I haven't
heard any good things about it. Microsoft has really gone
down hill with their Tests and Training materials. I have
been a consultant and trainer for 10 years and this was
horrible. How am I supposed to tell my students to get
excited about this thing. The individual tests are not too
bad. But this upgrade for professionals was an insult.

>.
>

Siqueira, Felipe

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Apr 11, 2005, 9:47:01 AM4/11/05
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Agree 100%, I failed twice and think they are measuring useless this, not
knowledge.

Hope no one comes here and post useless comments, keep on saying bull-$hit,
like, study more, I took it and it was easy, use this, use that, but give us
some real good tips.

To these ones, please post things that aggregate, add value!!!

Mark, I will keep on studying and take it again in month or so and will come
back to this forum. And 2 other friends (one has failed twice in the past,
the other never took the exam) will take it this month or in the next.
Let's keep in touch.

Spik3dunder

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Apr 14, 2005, 1:45:01 AM4/14/05
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Hello fellow students !

I'm also a newly vergin MCSA 2000 student :-) I'm also enrolled in a course
for the 70-292, and I found that the materials given me for this exam are far
to shy of what I really need, after reading some practice questions online
and with in a few test engines. Examples: ActualTest, ExamForce, CramMaster,
and so on. From what I'm hearing is that no matter how much reading and
practice exams you take "Passing this exam is like heading downTown Miami for
a "CRAP GAME".

Now from what I've read with in the MS community there are a lot of well
experienced and Knowledgeable people who've taken the exam and failed, and
there are the few who've taken the exam and passed with a minimul score as
apposed to their previous scores on other MS exam.

My thoughts are like this, I'm sure everyone here has taken many practice
exams and seen how well the wording goes with in these questions, along with
how well the answers are given. It's like a third grader has put these
practice exams together, kind of remindes me of our local paper with all the
miss spelled words. Anyways It sounds like this exam has been hit with a bad
case of bad answers and bad grammer. I can only hope they have this Crap
cleened up before I'm scheduled to write at the end of the month :(

If by some fluke I pass this exam I'll do my best to let the group know what
did it forme whether it be one of many practice exams, or many books I read
"Ah yes there's that word READ, and READ LOL. I wish everyone who is taking
this exam all the luck in the world because that's what it sounds like we
need ;-)

"Panicking in Prince George" wrote:

R

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Apr 15, 2005, 8:30:29 AM4/15/05
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A$$FUCK3R

"Spik3dunder" <Spik3...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0640492E-41CD-4D68...@microsoft.com...

catwalker63

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Apr 15, 2005, 4:21:53 PM4/15/05
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"R" <an...@spamme.please> prattled ceaslessly in
news:#M$XqbbQF...@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:

> A$$FUCK3R
>

Very good!


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