A2007 - OLE vs. Attachements
Jay Oken
it. From what I can see OLE gives the option to "link" to the picture file
rather than imbed the picture in the database which then bloats my database.
The "attachment" type field has a nicer interface when I put it on a form
but bloats the database. Is there a way to use the Attachment field type but
have it be a link to the picture.
Thanks,
J
Steve
path. Store the complete path in a text field in your table. To display your
pictures in a form or report, add an image control (see the toolbox). Set
the Picture property of the image control to the field that holds the path.
Steve
san...@penn.com
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Mark Andrews
Pros and cons for each approach. A picture to a contact record is probably
the typical senerio
Microsoft envisioned for using the attachment field "as is". Not storing
tons and tons of graphics etc...
You get to see a preview of the image (for most formats). I believe they
made it better on the "amount of bloating that occurs".
I don't think you can use the attachment field to hold a link.
You can add/extract attachments via code to move things back and forth from
the filesystem to the database.
HTH
Mark
"Jay Oken" <okencon...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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StopThisAdvertising
"Steve" <notmy...@address.com> schreef in bericht
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> Store all your pictures in a common folder. Each picture will have an unique path. Store
> the complete path in a text field in your table. To display your pictures in a form or
> report, add an image control (see the toolbox). Set the Picture property of the image
> control to the field that holds the path.
>
> Steve
> san...@penn.com
>
--
Get lost $teve. Go away... far away....
No-one wants you here... no-one needs you here...
OP look at http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html
(Website has been updated and has a new 'look'... we have passed 10.000 pageloads... it's
a shame !!)
For those who don't 'agree' with this mail , because $teve was 'helpfull' with his post...
We warned him a thousand times... Sad, but he is not willing to stop advertising...
He is just toying with these groups... advertising like hell... on and on... for years...
oh yes... and sometimes he answers questions... indeed...
and sometimes good souls here give him credit for that...
==> We are totally 'finished' with $teve now...
==> Killfile 'StopThisAdvertising' and you won't see these mails....
Arno R
JohnLute
Let's instead create a MASSIVE online "info-attack" on them. Just ridiculous.
So reminiscent of the Aaron Kempf drama. If Steve is the person that you
claim then why oh, WHY are they NOT simply banned and their multitude of
posts simply deleted?
Bordering on stupid.
Piet Linden
is there something my browser doesn't show?
JohnLute
Advertising is in violation of harrassment.
These kinds of "wars" ruin things for everyone. StopThisAdvertising claims,
"We warned him a thousand times..."
Who is "we" and what/who has given "we" the authority to warn ANYBODY? I
just reviewed the TOU:
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.mspx#E1
These don't seem to have been altered for a couple years. If Steve is such a
violator then he should be properly reported to MS.
Steve appears to be a troll and to have taken on other identities. So if it
can be so easily proven then simply do so and be done with it. I'm entirely
annoyed by self-appointed forum police!
Considering that Steve has been warned "a thousand times" yet is still free
to post makes it CLEAR that those who have been warning him are entirely out
of line.
---
www.Marzetti.com
Gina Whipp
I am not defedning anyone but please note that the TOU you preseted is for
Software. The Rules of Conduct for the Newsgroup can be found here...
http://www.microsoft.com/library/gallery/components/wn/3/locales/help/help_en-US.htm#RulesofConduct.
And to quote...
"Advertising/Solicitation: These communities were created as a forum for
providing peer-to-peer assistance on Microsoft products and services. We ask
that you refrain from posting advertisements or solicitations that do not
pertain directly to the intended use and purpose of the newsgroup or chat."
1. No, I have to agree I do not see it in this posting either. HOWEVER, I
have seen it as much as 9 (nine) times ALL in seperate posts.
2. and 3. As for who the "We" are please refer to postings where Steve has
advertised. If you do a search on Steve you will find the "We" and the
solicitations.
3. He has been reported several times and has had to make several
adjustments to post here. I am not going to defend Steve or
StopThisAdvertising. I will say if you don't want to see either one please
use Killfile.
--
Gina Whipp
"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
II
http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm
"JohnLute" <John...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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JohnLute
either. I'm simply saying that the "info-attack" on Steve is as ridiculous
and annoying as Steve's trolling for $$$.
This smacks of the Aaron Kempf issue. Good GAWSH - if the Rules of Conduct
are so explicit and clear than why in the world are these things allowed to
blow up like this?
Simply ban the offender and get on with life. I really appreciate these
forums but I find these playground antics just a bit much and feel compelled
to voice my irritation.
Douglas J. Steele
You're using Microsoft's web interface to post, but you're actually posting
to NNTP newsgroups, not a website.
The groups exist on a multitude of servers, not simply the ones that
Microsoft administers themselves (msnews.microsoft.com). While Microsoft
conceivably could delete posts originating on their server, they would be
unable to delete posts originating on other servers.
--
Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
http://I.Am/DougSteele
(no e-mails, please!)
"JohnLute" <John...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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JohnLute
Well, then it seems to me that the *bigger* problem is poor planning. If I
were to initiate a fine forum like this (and it truly is fine) then I'd make
sure that I could actually ENFORCE the Rules of Conduct that people have been
asked to respect! Otherwise, why bother with any rules at all?
Personaly, I find the "info-attack" (I don't know what else to call it)
towards Steve far more disturbing than his trolling for $$$. It's downright
CREEPY. The fact that all of that effort goes for naught because ultimately,
the rules can't be enforced makes it more a travesty than anything.
Yikes!
Steve
Another one of your bold-faced lies, Bitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have never had to make any adjustments to post in the newsgroups.
Steve
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Gina Whipp
--
Gina Whipp
"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
II
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Gina Whipp
--
Gina Whipp
"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
II
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JohnLute
Gina's one of the best. Your comments are uncalled for and you should be
banned for making them. If there was a magic button I could push to make that
happen I would do it without hesitation.
--
www.Marzetti.com
Banana
much old, almost old as the internet itself. You may want to read a Wiki
on NNTP and realize that Microsoft was simply making available an avenue
to what then was popular and reliable protocol for disseminating
discussions. It looks like Microsoft formed the Microsoft.Public
newsgroups in 1994, which is before any reliable web forum software even
existed and the only other good place was AOL chatroom (?!)
Gina Whipp
--
Gina Whipp
"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
II
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"JohnLute" <John...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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John... Visio MVP
consider changing your posting address as an adjustment?
John... Visio MVP
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Steve
Gina is just like Arno R and Visio John. She tracks my posts and frequently
makes defamatory and libelous statements about me in the newsgroups. What
she wrote was a bold-faced lie. If anyone should be banned, it should be the
three of them! She's not the goody two-shoes you think she is.
Steve
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StopThisAdvertising
> <........and has had to make several adjustments to post here. >
>
> Another one of your bold-faced lies, Bitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> I have never had to make any adjustments to post in the newsgroups.
>
> Steve
>
--
Get lost $teve. Go away... far away....
No-one wants you here... no-one needs you here...
Check out: http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html for your 'adjustments'
(Website has been updated and has a new 'look'... we have passed 10.000 pageloads... it's
a shame !!)
Arno R
David W. Fenton
in news:E19E9956-46D4-42B1...@microsoft.com:
> it seems to me that the *bigger* problem is poor planning. If I
> were to initiate a fine forum like this (and it truly is fine)
> then I'd make sure that I could actually ENFORCE the Rules of
> Conduct that people have been asked to respect! Otherwise, why
> bother with any rules at all?
You really have no clue about Usenet, then.
Microsoft created the newsgroups. That means they created the
charter for the newsgroups. Repeated violation of the terms of a
newsgroup's charter can be grounds for losing your account with an
ISP, or the news provider.
This is not enforced as much as it once was, partly because many
ISPs ignore Usenet (neglecting their news server, or outsourcing it,
or providing none at all), and no longer employ people who
understand the rules of Usenet (people like yourself, for instance).
One aspect of the dropping of news servers by ISPs is that many
individuals now go to third-party news providers, either paid or
free, and that makes them *more* subject to discipline, since their
account is not with an ISP for general purposes including Usenet,
but it is with a Usenet provider for the sold purpose of using the
newsgroups. Thus, abuse of the terms of a newsgroup can easily be
punished by these 3rd-party news providers banning your account.
In this case, I think you have a point that people attacked Steve
for behavior he hasn't exhibited in this particular thread. That's
wrong, but hardly inexplicable. Steve has made his bed and he has to
lie in it. That means he's going to get treated unfairly in some
cases, but given that he has no respect for the groups he trolls for
work in, I shed no tears for him.
On the other hand, I wish there was more encouragement of his "good"
posts (like the one in this thread), since that might serve to nudge
him into behaving properly, such that he posted more helpful
responses and fewer solicitations. So, yes, it's unfortunate that
this happened, but it was initiated by someone who has been in my
killfile for a long time (and will remain there for the foreseeable
future), so that should tell you something right there.
--
David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/
David W. Fenton
> It looks like Microsoft formed the Microsoft.Public
> newsgroups in 1994, which is before any reliable web forum
> software even existed and the only other good place was AOL
> chatroom (?!)
I would say that a good news reader and a reliable newsfeed are
still vastly superior to any web-based discussion forum I've ever
encountered. Maybe the approach seeni in Google Wave will change
that, but we're a long way from that.
John W. Vinson
> It looks like Microsoft formed the Microsoft.Public
>newsgroups in 1994, which is before any reliable web forum software even
>existed and the only other good place was AOL chatroom (?!)
... or CompuServe, where I was a Sysop before I started posting here...
--
John W. Vinson [MVP]
Fred
What terrible behavior!
Any regular reader knows that Gina's accuracy, expertise and helpfulness
have been established, beyond reproach. Not to mention the ultimate in
restraint is responding to such junk. So, now, beyond the other issues, he
has established himself who commits profane name calling in the forum against
such people.
JohnLute
Thanks for the insight. I appreciate it however I don't need to have a clue
about all of the technology.That's your world! I'm simply an every day schlub
of a USER who has been asked to follow RULES. Now if the rules can't be
enforced then who is it that REALLY doesn't have a clue?
The rules might as well be thrown out if they can't be enforced. Since they
can't be enforced we have people creating websites - bordering on clinical
obsessiveness - that wage some kind of creepy info-attack on another person
just because they've "broken" these un-enforceable rules!
I guess I could figure out how to use the killfile but why should I? If the
rules are clear and users agree to them then MS should find a way to enforce
them. THAT is my point.
Chasing after Steve at every post - particularly if he's merely providing
info - is in equal violation of the rules. 2 wrongs don't = 1 right.
I think I learned that in 1st grade!
Marshall Barton
>From what I've seen, this profane name calling by Steve represents a new low.
It's definitely a low point, but it's not a new low. This
behavior has occured many times over the years and is part
of the reason for the common response to his disregard of
community standards.
--
Marsh
MVP [MS Access]
David W. Fenton
in news:34E8B81D-4AC6-43A7...@microsoft.com:
> I'm simply an every day schlub
> of a USER who has been asked to follow RULES. Now if the rules
> can't be enforced then who is it that REALLY doesn't have a clue?
You're obviously a complete moron and proud of it. The result of
demonstrating that you don't give a rat's ass about learning about
the communities in which your are posting means that that I will
never read any of your posts ever again, nor offer you any comments
or assistance. Your probably don't care, of course, because if you
did, you wouldn't have posted such stupid statements in the first
place.
Buh-Bye!
<PLONK>
Steve
personal attacks, slurs, and profanity in your interactions." Now read the
the first two sentences in the other response here!
Steve
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StopThisAdvertising
"Fred" <Fr...@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
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> From what I've seen, this profane name calling by Steve represents a new low.
> What terrible behavior!
>
Nothing new low... just repeating low.
EVERYTHING that is stated at http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html
is simply sad but true and can be checked. Loaded with links to previous posts to 'prove'
what is stated.
Sad but true!! No false accusations there.. .
This advertising of $teve is going on and on and on and on.
If $teve stops advertising the website will be gone (also stated there at the 'Website
stats' page)
It's as simple as that.
Arno R
Keith Wilby
>I don't see it, either. So in this instance one could argue that StopThis
> Advertising is in violation of harrassment.
>
>
This is Usenet. Simply KF StopThisAdvertising, job done.
Keith Wilby
> The second sentence in the so-called Rules of Conduct states, "Please
> avoid personal attacks, slurs, and profanity in your interactions."
>
>
You mean like calling someone a "Bitch"? Hardly professional behaviour is
it $teve? You've already run out of feet to shoot yourself in, what next?
Prospective "clients" are taking note, of that I have no doubt.
johnlute
> You're obviously a complete moron and proud of it.
Well, I'm not a COMPLETE moron. More accurately I'm a half-wit.
Miraculously, I've managed to maintain the half that works despite
enduring your glorifying pontifications about how much you know and
how little I don't.
> The result of
> demonstrating that you don't give a rat's ass about learning about
> the communities in which your are posting means that that I will
> never read any of your posts ever again, nor offer you any comments
> or assistance.
If it helps you to sleep better at night...
> Your probably don't care, of course, because if you
> did, you wouldn't have posted such stupid statements in the first
> place.
No. I don't care what you think of me. At least the half of my wit
that I use doesn't. Is there a reason why I should?
> Buh-Bye!
Very original...
Keith Wilby
news:219b20dd-b99f-4c61...@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> David W. Fenton wrote:
>
>> You're obviously a complete moron and proud of it.
>
> Well, I'm not a COMPLETE moron. More accurately I'm a half-wit.
> Miraculously, I've managed to maintain the half that works despite
> enduring your glorifying pontifications about how much you know and
> how little I don't.
>
Mr Fenton is, without doubt, one of the most talented Access developers on
this group and beyond. Sadly his lack of manners, his ego and attitude
problems always seem to get the better of him in situations he doesn't agree
with (he won't see this, he KF'd me years ago).
johnlute
That's truly too bad. To my half-witted point that *IF* there was a
way to enforce the "rules" then the chances of things boiling up to
these temperatures would be very low.
MS should seriously consider abandoning this mess and creating a truly
moderated forum.
Banana
> MS should seriously consider abandoning this mess and creating a truly
> moderated forum.
Well, I have no idea what MS is planning and what it intends to do with
NG in long terms, but I'd point out that there already are plenty of
moderated forums out there specifically for Access so you don't have to
wait on MS to provide one. Just google for 'microsoft access forums' and
I'm sure you'll find aplenty.
Douglas J. Steele
for web forums because newsgroup readers are far faster.
--
Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
http://I.Am/DougSteele
(no private e-mails, please)
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Larry Linson
but my guess is that David is not likely to be picking up clients from users
of this newsgroup. His clients hire him because they are willing to pay for
his expertise in Access rather than spend time away from their own expertise
to learn "computer stuff".
I remember being on a consulting assignment, and needing an answer, asked an
employee of the client who was on duty in the quality assurance department
where batch jobs for their mainframe computer were checked. His response,
which he thought was extremely clever, was "Obviously you have me confused
with someone who gives a d***." I got the information I needed elsewhere
(from the on-duty computer operator who didn't have the responsibility to
know or answer the question, but obviously did "give a d****") but thought,
"If your manager knew your attitude, you might give a d*** about where you
were going to find another job that pays as well as the one from which your
manager just fired you."
Larry
"Keith Wilby" <he...@there.com> wrote in message
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David W. Fenton
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> I'm neither endorsing David's response nor condemning him for his
> language, but my guess is that David is not likely to be picking
> up clients from users of this newsgroup.
I don't know if I'm the "David" referred to here, but the thread is
following on a post that I made. However, it's one in which the word
"bitch" does not occur. Nor did I use the word in any of my posts in
this thread. Indeed, I strongly doubt I've ever used the word at all
in a post in the Access newgroups.
Just to be sure, I used Google Groups to check that, and, it turns
out, I've used the word a lot, but always in the sense of "bitching
about X" or "X is a bitch" and only twice in reference to an
individual. In those two posts I once used it in a conditional
sense, basically "Anyone who does respect and appreciate the
contributions of a particular person ... is an ungrateful son of a
bitch" (see
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.access.replication/ms
g/c5019e354ce6265e). Only once did I actually call someone
specifically "an arrogant son of a bitch"
(http://groups.google.com/group/comp.databases.ms-access/msg/ad691354
483e1c31). I have never and would never call anyone (male or female)
a "bitch."
In the present discussion, I did call someone a moron, something I
do quite frequently. But I don't do it gratuitously -- I only get to
that point after substantial evidence has demonstrated to me that it
is warranted. Others can judge for themselves in this thread whether
or not the party so designated by me was in fact demonstrating
stupidity in his posts or not.
johnlute
wrote:
> "Larry Linson" <boun...@localhost.not> wrote innews:#yKCFKrW...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:
>
> > I'm neither endorsing David's response nor condemning him for his
> > language, but my guess is that David is not likely to be picking
> > up clients from users of this newsgroup.
>
> I don't know if I'm the "David" referred to here, but the thread is
> following on a post that I made. However, it's one in which the word
> "bitch" does not occur. Nor did I use the word in any of my posts in
> this thread. Indeed, I strongly doubt I've ever used the word at all
> in a post in the Access newgroups.
>
> Just to be sure, I used Google Groups to check that, and, it turns
> out, I've used the word a lot, but always in the sense of "bitching
> about X" or "X is a bitch" and only twice in reference to an
> individual. In those two posts I once used it in a conditional
> sense, basically "Anyone who does respect and appreciate the
> contributions of a particular person ... is an ungrateful son of a
> g/c5019e354ce6265e). Only once did I actually call someone
> specifically "an arrogant son of a bitch"
> (http://groups.google.com/group/comp.databases.ms-access/msg/ad691354
> 483e1c31). I have never and would never call anyone (male or female)
> a "bitch."
>
> In the present discussion, I did call someone a moron, something I
> do quite frequently. But I don't do it gratuitously -- I only get to
> that point after substantial evidence has demonstrated to me that it
> is warranted. Others can judge for themselves in this thread whether
> or not the party so designated by me was in fact demonstrating
> stupidity in his posts or not.
>
> --
> David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
> usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/
I'm speechless.