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billy the squirrel

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Jan 25, 2001, 1:21:34 PM1/25/01
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Question my friends:
Does anyone have know when MS will release a
new version or add-on for the Access DAP's???

Billy


Clint Covington

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Jan 25, 2001, 5:47:08 PM1/25/01
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Soon--DAPs are making significant steps forward in the next version.
Microsoft hasn't announced the ship date for the next version of Office.
Keep reading the news and you will hear more information about the release
of Office--the ship vehicle for DAPs.

Clint


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Bill Murphy

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Feb 12, 2001, 2:29:20 PM2/12/01
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Clint,

Do you know of any Web sites that discuss actual or rumored changes in the
next version of Access?

Bill


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Clint Covington

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Feb 13, 2001, 6:22:44 PM2/13/01
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Everything is still under NDA--I don't know of any sites that cover the
subject. I can provide you with a little information. The next version of
DAPs are much improved especially in the designer area. I think there are
four feature areas that really identify what we did.

1. Multilevel undo and redo.
2. Multi-select if you have IE 5.5+.
3. You can now update records inside bands.
4. A ton of other features and bug fixes that raises the overall quality
experience.

I know this isn't as much as you would like but until we begin the launch
process, I need to watch what I say.

Clint


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Bill Murphy

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Feb 14, 2001, 10:08:57 AM2/14/01
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Clint,

Thanks for the preview. I like the idea of DAP, but it seems that the
requirement that all users must have IE 5.0 or better plus an Office 2000
license are pretty limiting. I wonder if Microsoft has considered easing
these requirements. There are probably a lot of users out there who can't
currently comply with this. And, we need to reach a wide audience on the
Web with our pages.

Bill


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Clint Covington

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Feb 14, 2001, 12:30:36 PM2/14/01
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The licensing agreement for the Office Web Components will change. Users can
download the OWC from Microsoft and use DAPs without requiring an office
license. There are some restrictions when you start adding Pivot Tables,
Pivot Charts and Spreadsheet controls.

There isn't much I can do about the IE 5 requirement. Everything about how
we build and render data is tied to IE 5 data binding. That is how we are
able to provide such a rich data environment without excessive trips to the
server. We do have include a script in the page that tells people to get IE
5 if they browse the page on downlevel browsers.

Clint

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Steve Hayes

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Mar 9, 2001, 10:34:54 AM3/9/01
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Clint:
Would it be possible to supply some sort of DAP plug-in for Netscape? I agree
with Bill Murphy when he says that web sites need to have the greatest possible
exposure, that should include all popular browsers IMHO.

Clint Covington

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Mar 9, 2001, 11:59:47 AM3/9/01
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It might be technically possible for a plug-in but not very feasible for a
number of reasons. DAPs are built on top of IE's databinding and XML
features. Netscape doesn't come close to providing the rich object model
needed to build the kind of pages we build. They didn't even support basic
2-d positioning until the latest release (6.0). Also, we have seen their
market share drop more and more--especially among corporations.

To be honest with you, we built DAPs with the intranet in mind. It is
difficult to get DAPs running over the firewall on the Internet because of
the network configurations required by RDS. We are looking closely at making
it possible to build downlevel pages in the next version, but I'm pretty
sure it won't match the data binding functionality of DAPs. Access 2002 will
alow you to bind DAPs to XML files on your web server but the data is going
to be read only.

If you are looking to build consumer based pages that extend to the Internet
(not Intranet) then I think you are better off looking at ASP and ASP+.
These technologies are build around the notion of disconnected recordsets
where DAPs require an active connection to the databased. They are just
different technologies built for different purposes.

Intranet workgroup applications--think DAPs. Internet consumer pages with
broad reach--think ASP and ASP+.

Clint

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