Next Meeting (RIA application architectures with Flex)

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Ilya Sterin

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Oct 28, 2007, 4:02:18 PM10/28/07
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It's been a while since we had our last meeting. I was out of town
for quite a while, vacation/business, and now am back.

Let's start the meetings again. I have been doing quite a bit with
RIA flex statuful architectures for the last few months. Many
architectural designs/patterns
still apply, but the stateful client nature of flex and actionscript's
event driven programming model presents some architectural
challenges. I mean challenges in a good way
as the event driven programming model allows for looser coupling of
components/modules, but a lot of patterns though still apply in
generalities, have different conceptual reifications.

The exciting nature of flex, is that although I've been an enterprise
java developer for quite a long time now, and worked with various
other server side languages/frameworks, the stateful model of RIA
clients allows for horizontally scalable stateless backend model.
Because the backend model now becomes an independent service, rather
than a tightly coupled framework component, a lot of services like
locator, etc... move over to the client. This allows the backend
services to be implemented in a variety of technologies, basically
what ever suites your needs/skills (JEE, .NET, RoR, Perl, Python, PHP,
etc...).

We've also been thinking about a client side load balancing
architecture, again where a service locator service becomes a client
side component and is responsible for service call delegation in
distributed architecture environments. Very cool stuff, I can share
what we recently piloted with Amazon's EC2/S3 environment. Basically
an on demand horizontally scalable service architecture with a
stateful RIA Flex client.

I think the best time for the meeting right now is Tuesday November
13th or Wednesday November 14th. There are also various locations we
can entertain. Either the Royal Oak Public library. We've been
successful in securing conference rooms there. Or as I live in Grosse
Pointe, we have a new Grosse Point library that just opened and I'll
be able to reserve a conference room there.

I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on date/location, as well as
topics that we should cover in addition to the above. Let's make the
deadline for comments on date/location Wednesday of next week, that
way I have enough time to reserve a room.

Thanks and hope to see everyone soon.

Ilya Sterin

CodeJockey

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Oct 29, 2007, 10:29:06 AM10/29/07
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Personally, I like the Royal Oak option since it is less of a drive
for me coming from Farmington Hills, but I'm willing to go wherever
works best for the group.

I have been tinkering with Flex and am very excited about the
technology. I look forward to hearing from someone who has some real
world experience with it. Thanks for putting this together!

Michael Pardon
codej...@gmail.com

DrPaul

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Oct 31, 2007, 9:01:04 AM10/31/07
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I would prefer Royal Oak also. I haven't been to any of the
MDEAD meetings yet. Have been going to JUG-Detroit but
would like to start attending MDEAD, also.
R.O. is much more convenient for me.

Paul Drallos
pdra...@tir.com

DrPaul

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Nov 13, 2007, 8:07:13 AM11/13/07
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It was suggested in an earlier post that there may be a meeting
on Nov 13th or 14th, either in Royal Oak or Grosse Pointe.

Here we are on the morning of the 13th. Will there be a meeting
on either of these days? Sorry to bug. Trying to plan.

Paul

On Oct 28, 3:02 pm, Ilya Sterin <ster...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I think the best time for the meeting right now is Tuesday November
> 13th or Wednesday November 14th. There are also various locations we
> can entertain. Either the Royal Oak Public library. We've been
> successful in securing conference rooms there. Or as I live in Grosse
> Pointe, we have a new Grosse Point library that just opened and I'll
> be able to reserve a conference room there.

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>
> IlyIn a Sterin

John Miller

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Nov 13, 2007, 9:34:36 AM11/13/07
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Same here!

david

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Nov 13, 2007, 4:13:54 PM11/13/07
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I'm guessing Ilya had to go out of town for work. I suspect he is in
CA or on his way back home.

Last I heard, there is an issue with meeting location. The RO
library now requires a fee, as do RO schools and OCC has not been
responsive.

I don't think I will be able to attend this week. Next week would be
better for me. Except, of course, Thanksgiving.

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Ilya Sterin

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Nov 13, 2007, 4:49:39 PM11/13/07
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David, thanks. Yeah, I'm usually out of town if I don't respond, but
I'm here, just have been looking for a meeting place. Here is the
update...

Our previous meetings were at RO library. The recent policy change no
longer allows us to reserve rooms there, it's available on first come
first serve basis. Kirsten has been working hard trying to get us
another location, but so far without any success. Although there are
availabilities at Saint Clair Shores library, I wouldn't want everyone
driving here, I'd rather us meet at a central location.

We were offered a few locations, but they were at commercial
establishments and our biggest principle has always been bias free
meetings, which is sometimes hard to do in a commercial environment,
especially a software company, where management always tries to bend
the architectures around their product offerings, rather than the
other way around. I personally wouldn't mind having some meetings as
some corporate locations, as long as the corporations offerings the
meeting place know that any agenda push from their end will not be
acceptable.

With the above said, I'm sorry to announce that we will not have the
meeting this week. I will work very hard to secure a steady location
for us for future meetings and will announce a location/next meeting
time shortly.

In the meantime, I'd love to hear anyone's comments/recommendations.
This is your group and everyone's input is very much appreciated. If
you disagree with anything above, please let us know.

Thanks.

Ilya Sterin

david

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Nov 14, 2007, 7:52:55 AM11/14/07
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I can understand the hesitance if you are talking about having a
company sponsor an event or advertise on behalf of the group.

If someone offers to reserve a conference room and their company
agrees to let non-employees in after hours, I don't understand the
problem.

I really don't see a problem if a company like iDashboards wanted to
demo their
software to us at the beginning of meeting. It seems to me it might
spark an
interesting conversation. Lessons learned and that sort of thing.

I also think it would be great if a company supplied food and
beverages.
I think we should encourage that behavior!

They can bend all the architectures they want if the supply the pizza.

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