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From: David Glasser <glas...@meteor.com>
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BTW, you can always install Meteor on your AMI (curl
https://install.meteor.com/ | sh, which on Ubuntu will install a .deb) and
then you can use the version of Node that it installs in
/usr/lib/meteor/bin/node.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:57 PM, David Glasser <glas...@meteor.com> wrote:
> Yup, that's the issue: if you look at the path names, you'll see that Nod=
e
> 0.6 is looking for it in the "linux-ia32-v8-3.7" directory (since Node
> 0.6 uses v8 3.7) and Node 0.8 is using v8 3.11.
>
> Meteor does require Node 0.8 (maybe it should actually fail without it?).
> Most of the things that actually care about the difference are in the
> client-side Meteor tool, but there are some changes in the server (notabl=
y,
> there's a call to fs.existsSync in server.js which was called
> path.existsSync in 0.6).
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Dror Matalon <d...@devwik.com> wrote:
>
>> find server/node_modules/fibers/bin
>> server/node_modules/fibers/bin
>> server/node_modules/fibers/bin/.npmignore
>> server/node_modules/fibers/bin/linux-ia32-v8-3.11
>> server/node_modules/fibers/bin/linux-ia32-v8-3.11/fibers.node
>>
>> Frankly, it's not really a problem for me, just installed Fibers,
>> though it was a little bit of a pain, but I guess it's good to know
>> that vanilla Ubuntu Precise on EC2 currently runs an old version of
>> node.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:14 PM, David Glasser <glas...@meteor.com> wrote=
:
>> > Although I note that you mentioned Node 0.6. That's probably the issue=
.
>> > Meteor these days requires Node 0.8. The docs were out of date until
>> this
>> > morning (thanks David Workman for a pull request fixing this!) but you
>> want
>> > Node 0.8.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, David Glasser <glas...@meteor.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> That's surprising! If you look inside the bundle tarball, what's in
>> >> "server/node_modules/fibers/bin"?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Dror Matalon <d...@devwik.com> wrote=
:
>> >>>
>> >>> I made and ran the bundle on the same AMI, ami-1add532a, which is a =
32
>> >>> bit ubuntu EC2 server.
>> >>>
>> >>> Linux version 3.2.0-29-virtual (buildd@roseapple) (gcc version 4.6.3
>> >>> (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) ) #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:47:52
>> >>> UTC 2012
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:10 PM, David Glasser <glas...@meteor.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > "Platform" is pretty specific. Did you make your bundle on 64-bit
>> >>> > Linux, and
>> >>> > you are now running it on 32-bit (which is what that path looks
>> like?)
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Dror Matalon <d...@devwik.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> That's not my experience. On a vanilla install of ubuntu on ec2, =
I
>> get
>> >>> >> node.js:201
>> >>> >> throw e; // process.nextTick error, or 'error' event on
>> first
>> >>> >> tick
>> >>> >> ^
>> >>> >> Error:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> `/home/dror/tmp/bundle/server/node_modules/fibers/bin/linux-ia32-v8-3.7/=
fibers.node`
>> >>> >> is missing. Try reinstalling `node-fibers`?
>> >>> >> at Object.<anonymous>
>> >>> >> (/home/dror/tmp/bundle/server/node_modules/fibers/fibers.js:13:8)
>> >>> >> at Module._compile (module.js:441:26)
>> >>> >> at Object..js (module.js:459:10)
>> >>> >> at Module.load (module.js:348:32)
>> >>> >> at Function._load (module.js:308:12)
>> >>> >> at Module.require (module.js:354:17)
>> >>> >> at require (module.js:370:17)
>> >>> >> at Object.<anonymous>
>> (/home/dror/tmp/bundle/server/server.js:3:1)
>> >>> >> at Module._compile (module.js:441:26)
>> >>> >> at Object..js (module.js:459:10)
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> node v0.6.12
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> So I'm curious how you have fibers working without installing it
>> >>> >> explicitly.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Julien Chaumond <
>> chaum...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> > If you run your bundle on the platform you created it on, you
>> >>> >> > shouldn't
>> >>> >> > have
>> >>> >> > to do that.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > =96
>> >>> >> > Julien
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Dror Matalon <d...@devwik.com>
>> >>> >> > wrote:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> The meteor README says that you need to, but more important, I
>> got
>> >>> >> >> an
>> >>> >> >> error trying to run "node.js main" without installing it.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> It was actually, a little bit of a pain to install it, and I
>> had to
>> >>> >> >> get it from source. Unfortunately, I didn't keep notes of the
>> >>> >> >> details.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> This is all on EC2 on an ami-d70c2892, Ubuntu 12.04.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Julien Chaumond
>> >>> >> >> <chaum...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >> >> Didn't you need to install fibers?
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > No, but should I?
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> Also, how much is moderate traffic? Did you use a tool, and
>> at
>> >>> >> >> >> what
>> >>> >> >> >> point did you see issues with a small instance?
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > Traffic was about 100 concurrent connections.
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > I just used `top` to monitor node's CPU load. Haven't had a
>> >>> >> >> > chance to
>> >>> >> >> > look
>> >>> >> >> > at node profiling yet :)
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > =96
>> >>> >> >> > Julien
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > --
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BTW, you can always install Meteor on your AMI (curl <a href=3D"https://ins=
tall.meteor.com/">https://install.meteor.com/</a> | sh, which on Ubuntu wil=
l install a .deb) and then you can use the version of Node that it installs=
in /usr/lib/meteor/bin/node.<div class=3D"gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:57 PM, David Gl=
asser <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:glas...@meteor.com" target=3D=
"_blank">glas...@meteor.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex">
Yup, that's the issue: if you look at the path names, you'll see th=
at Node 0.6 is looking for it in the "<span style=3D"font-family:arial=
,sans-serif;font-size:13px">linux-</span><span style=3D"font-family:arial,s=
ans-serif;font-size:13px">ia32-v8-3.7" directory (since Node 0.6 uses =
v8 3.7) and Node 0.8 is using v8 3.11.</span><div>
<span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></di=
v><div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Meteor d=
oes require Node 0.8 (maybe it should actually fail without it?). Most of t=
he things that actually care about the difference are in the client-side Me=
teor tool, but there are some changes in the server (notably, there's a=
call to fs.existsSync in server.js which was called path.existsSync in 0.6=
).</span></div>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 2=
, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Dror Matalon <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:dro=
r...@devwik.com" target=3D"_blank">d...@devwik.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px =
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
find server/node_modules/fibers/bin<br>
server/node_modules/fibers/bin<br>
server/node_modules/fibers/bin/.npmignore<br>
server/node_modules/fibers/bin/linux-ia32-v8-3.11<br>
server/node_modules/fibers/bin/linux-ia32-v8-3.11/fibers.node<br>
<br>
Frankly, it's not really a problem for me, just installed Fibers,<br>
though it was a little bit of a pain, but I guess it's good to know<br>
that vanilla Ubuntu Precise on EC2 currently runs an old version of<br>
node.<br>
<div><div><br>
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:14 PM, David Glasser <<a href=3D"mailto:glasser=
@meteor.com" target=3D"_blank">glas...@meteor.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Although I note that you mentioned Node 0.6. That's probably the i=
ssue.<br>
> Meteor these days requires Node 0.8. The docs were out of date until t=
his<br>
> morning (thanks David Workman for a pull request fixing this!) but you=
want<br>
> Node 0.8.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, David Glasser <<a href=3D"mailto:gl=
as...@meteor.com" target=3D"_blank">glas...@meteor.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> That's surprising! If you look inside the bundle tarball, what=
's in<br>
>> "server/node_modules/fibers/bin"?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Dror Matalon <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:d...@devwik.com" target=3D"_blank">d...@devwik.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> I made and ran the bundle on the same AMI, ami-1add532a, which=
is a 32<br>
>>> bit ubuntu EC2 server.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Linux version 3.2.0-29-virtual (buildd@roseapple) (gcc version=
4.6.3<br>
>>> (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) ) #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:=
47:52<br>
>>> UTC 2012<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:10 PM, David Glasser <<a href=3D"=
mailto:glas...@meteor.com" target=3D"_blank">glas...@meteor.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>> > "Platform" is pretty specific. Did you make you=
r bundle on 64-bit<br>
>>> > Linux, and<br>
>>> > you are now running it on 32-bit (which is what that path=
looks like?)<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Dror Matalon <<a href=
=3D"mailto:d...@devwik.com" target=3D"_blank">d...@devwik.com</a>> wrote=
:<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> That's not my experience. On a vanilla install of=
ubuntu on ec2, I get<br>
>>> >> node.js:201<br>
>>> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 throw e; // process.nextTick error, o=
r 'error' event on first<br>
>>> >> tick<br>
>>> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ^<br>
>>> >> Error:<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> `/home/dror/tmp/bundle/server/node_modules/fibers/bin=
/linux-ia32-v8-3.7/fibers.node`<br>
>>> >> is missing. Try reinstalling `node-fibers`?<br>
>>> >> =A0 =A0 at Object.<anonymous><br>
>>> >> (/home/dror/tmp/bundle/server/node_modules/fibers/fib=
ers.js:13:8)<br>
>>> >> =A0 =A0 at Module._compile (module.js:441:26)<br>
>>> >> =A0 =A0 at Object..js (module.js:459:10)<br>
>>> >> =A0 =A0 at Module.load (module.js:348:32)<br>
>>> >> =A0 =A0 at Function._load (module.js:308:12)<br>
>>> >> =A0 =A0 at Module.require (module.js:354:17)<br>
>>> >> =A0 =A0 at require (module.js:370:17)<br>
>>> >> =A0 =A0 at Object.<anonymous> (/home/dror/tmp/b=
undle/server/server.js:3:1)<br>
>>> >> =A0 =A0 at Module._compile (module.js:441:26)<br>
>>> >> =A0 =A0 at Object..js (module.js:459:10)<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> node v0.6.12<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> So I'm curious how you have fibers working withou=
t installing it<br>
>>> >> explicitly.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Julien Chaumond <<=
a href=3D"mailto:chaum...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">chaum...@gmail.com</=
a>><br>
>>> >> wrote:<br>
>>> >> > If you run your bundle on the platform you creat=
ed it on, you<br>
>>> >> > shouldn't<br>
>>> >> > have<br>
>>> >> > to do that.<br>
>>> >> ><br>
>>> >> > =96<br>
>>> >> > Julien<br>
>>> >> ><br>
>>> >> ><br>
>>> >> > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Dror Matalon &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:d...@devwik.com" target=3D"_blank">d...@devwik.com</a>&=
gt;<br>
>>> >> > wrote:<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> The meteor README says that you need to, but=
more important, I got<br>
>>> >> >> an<br>
>>> >> >> error trying to run "node.js main"=
without installing it.<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> It was actually, a little bit of a pain to i=
nstall it, and I had to<br>
>>> >> >> get it from source. Unfortunately, I didn=
9;t keep notes of the<br>
>>> >> >> details.<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> This is all on EC2 on an ami-d70c2892, Ubunt=
u 12.04.<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Julien Chau=
mond<br>
>>> >> >> <<a href=3D"mailto:chaum...@gmail.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">chaum...@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> >> >> wrote:<br>
>>> >> >> >> Didn't you need to install fibe=
rs?<br>
>>> >> >> ><br>
>>> >> >> ><br>
>>> >> >> > No, but should I?<br>
>>> >> >> ><br>
>>> >> >> >> Also, how much is moderate traffic?=
Did you use a tool, and at<br>
>>> >> >> >> what<br>
>>> >> >> >> point did you see issues with a sma=
ll instance?<br>
>>> >> >> ><br>
>>> >> >> ><br>
>>> >> >> > Traffic was about 100 concurrent connec=
tions.<br>
>>> >> >> ><br>
>>> >> >> > I just used `top` to monitor node's=
CPU load. Haven't had a<br>
>>> >> >> > chance to<br>
>>> >> >> > look<br>
>>> >> >> > at node profiling yet :)<br>
>>> >> >> ><br>
>>> >> >> > =96<br>
>>> >> >> > Julien<br>
>>> >> >> ><br>
>>> >> >> > --<br>
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