Evils of categorisation. Another e.g.

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Jun 25, 2009, 3:10:16 PM6/25/09
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This is a really lovely example of  ++++ of regression & - - - - of categorisation!

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Differences in the 2nd to 4th digit length ratio in humans reflect shifts along the common allometric line
Lukáš Kratochvíl 1 and Jaroslav Flegr 2
1 Department of Ecology, Faculty of Science, Charles University in Prague, Vinièná 7, 128 44 Praha 2, Czech Republic
2 Department of Philosophy and History of Science, Faculty of Science, Charles University in Prague, Vinièná 7, 128 44 Praha 2, Czech Republic
Abstract
Ratios often lead to biased conclusions concerning the actual relationships between examined traits and comparisons of the relative size of traits among groups. Therefore, the use of ratios has been abandoned in most comparative studies. However, ratios such as body mass index and waist-to-hip ratio are widely used in evolutionary biology and medicine. One such, the ratio of the 2nd to the 4th finger (2D : 4D), has been the subject of much recent interest in both humans and animals. Most studies agree that 2D : 4D is sexually dimorphic. In men, the 2nd digit tends to be shorter than the 4th, while in women the 2nd digit tends to be of the same size or slightly longer than the 4th. Nevertheless, here we demonstrate that the sexes do not greatly differ in the scaling between the 2nd and 4th digit. Sexual differences in 2D : 4D are mainly caused by the shift along the common allometric line with non-zero intercept, which means 2D : 4D necessarily decreases with increasing finger length, and the fact that men have longer fingers than women. We conclude that previously published results on the 2D : 4D ratio are biased by its covariation with finger length. We strongly recommend regression-based approaches for comparisons of hand shape among different groups.

Source: The Royal Society
http://rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2009/06/22/rsbl.2009.0346.abstract?papetoc

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That was my favourite method for detecting transvestites, or at least it was...now I'll just have to go back to relying on beard length...

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Doug Altman

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Jun 26, 2009, 5:56:06 AM6/26/09
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the conclusions of this study seem highly questionable!



At 20:10 25/06/2009, kornbrot wrote:
This is a really lovely example of  ++++ of regression & - - - - of categorisation!

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Diana

Differences in the 2nd to 4th digit length ratio in humans reflect shifts along the common allometric line
Lukáš Kratochvíl 1 and Jaroslav Flegr 2
1 Department of Ecology, Faculty of Science, Charles University in Prague, Vinièná 7, 128 44 Praha 2, Czech Republic
2 Department of Philosophy and History of Science, Faculty of Science, Charles University in Prague, Vinièná 7, 128 44 Praha 2, Czech Republic
Abstract
Ratios often lead to biased conclusions concerning the actual relationships between examined traits and comparisons of the relative size of traits among groups. Therefore, the use of ratios has been abandoned in most comparative studies. However, ratios such as body mass index and waist-to-hip ratio are widely used in evolutionary biology and medicine. One such, the ratio of the 2nd to the 4th finger (2D : 4D), has been the subject of much recent interest in both humans and animals. Most studies agree that 2D : 4D is sexually dimorphic. In men, the 2nd digit tends to be shorter than the 4th, while in women the 2nd digit tends to be of the same size or slightly longer than the 4th. Nevertheless, here we demonstrate that the sexes do not greatly differ in the scaling between the 2nd and 4th digit. Sexual differences in 2D : 4D are mainly caused by the shift along the common allometric line with non-zero intercept, which means 2D : 4D necessarily decreases with increasing finger length, and the fact that men have longer fingers than women. We conclude that previously published results on the 2D : 4D ratio are biased by its covariation with finger length. We strongly recommend regression-based approaches for comparisons of hand shape among different groups.

Source: The Royal Society
http://rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2009/06/22/rsbl.2009.0346.abstract?papetoc

Comment:
That was my favourite method for detecting transvestites, or at least it was...now I'll just have to go back to relying on beard length...

Posted by
Robert Karl Stonjek


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