Address field of an apartment building can be improved.

[Armen]

Hi!

When creating a new apartment-building, the address section (under
overview) is not comprehensive for us in Yerevan/Armenia. I glanced
some other 'addressing formats' on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_(geography)
and for example Poland uses very similar addressing scheme, because
'building number' is an essential part of the address:

As an example here is an address in Armenian exacly as used by local
people:

Babayan 10, bnakaran (=apartment) 23

What it says is:

Ave/St: Babayan
Building (number): 10
Apartment number: 23

What I mean is Building Number is an *essential* part of addressing
scheme here and we don't have that field in Google MapMaker when we
create an apartment building. This will be very important later when
someone wants to search for an address.

The best trick I've come up with (till MapMaker improves and
accomodates our addressing scheme too) is that in the address field
[(e.g. 12, First floor, Google House.)] I write "Building 10" and not
just "10" because I want to emphasize that it's "Building 10", it's
not "St. 10", it's not "Back Alley 10", not "Apartment 10", it's not
"House 10", etc.

Here is an example:
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&fll=40.199593,44.518908&fr=0.000164,0.000215&mpp=0.456115&gw=39&ll=40.199527,44.518855&spn=0.00313,0.004238&z=18&iwloc=0_0&fid=4641730425762786847:10342721838261989013

And as you see it gives a reasonably correct address too:
Building 10, General Babayan Street, Nor Arabkir, Arabkir, Yerevan,
Yerevan, Armenia.

Smaller divisions to bigger, including the building number. It's
complete for locating the building in Yerevan!

Now here is one question: My little trick looks good so far should I
continue writing the word "Building" in the address field? Other
alternatives are:
1- leaving the 'address' field empty.
2- writing the text 10 (without the word Building) in 'address' field.

Hopefully MapMaker software will improve to accommodate our addressing
scheme too, but till then what are your suggestions? (specially from
engineers working on the project who design/change data structures in
MM). Maybe we can continue writing the word "building" in the 'address
field' till the MM team creates the relevant field and then even
software can automatically recognize and fill up the relevant
(building) fields (so we can keep on drawing buildings and entering
their addresses correctly).

Thanks in advance,
Armen

[Map Maker Guide]

Hi Armen,
I agree with your practice of adding 'Building' in the address field
as that is an accurate depiction of reality. However, if you have any
specific feedback that can be implemented for the betterment of the
address field, please add that on the Issue tracker.

FYI, this is how your convention has been published on Google
Maps :http://maps.google.com/maps?
f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=10+&sll=40.199765,44.519252&sspn=0.003634,0.008256&ie=UTF8&hq=10&hnear=&z=18&iwloc=A

Regards,
Map Maker Guide.

On Oct 13, 11:48 pm, Armen <armenchi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> When creating a new apartment-building, the address section (under
> overview) is not comprehensive for us in Yerevan/Armenia. I glanced

> some other 'addressing formats' on Wikipediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_(geography)

> and for example Poland uses very similar addressing scheme, because
> 'building number' is an essential part of the address:
>
> As an example here is an address in Armenian exacly as used by local
> people:
>
> Babayan 10, bnakaran (=apartment) 23
>
> What it says is:
>
> Ave/St: Babayan
> Building (number): 10
> Apartment number: 23
>
> What I mean is Building Number is an *essential* part of addressing
> scheme here and we don't have that field in Google MapMaker when we
> create an apartment building. This will be very important later when
> someone wants to search for an address.
>
> The best trick I've come up with (till MapMaker improves and
> accomodates our addressing scheme too) is that in the address field
> [(e.g. 12, First floor, Google House.)] I write "Building 10" and not
> just "10" because I want to emphasize that it's "Building 10", it's
> not "St. 10", it's not "Back Alley 10", not "Apartment 10", it's not
> "House 10", etc.
>

> Here is an example:http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&fll=40.199593,44.518908&fr=0.000...

[Armen]

Hi MapMakerGuide,

> Hi Armen,
>  I agree with your practice of adding 'Building' in the address field
> as that is an accurate depiction of reality.

Good then I'll continue to do so. That's the trick I came up with till
address fields are fixed to accommodate more addressing schemes (at
the moment it seems suitable for US).

But it's very confusing. I list the queries (entered in text field and
clicked on 'Search Maps') with the result. If the output points to
that exact building I consider it correct and I consider it incorrect
if otherwise. I started with having the map of the whole city (Yerevan/
Armenia) in view.

Correct output:
babayan building 10
building 10 babayan

Incorrect output:
building 10 babayan str.
building 10 babayan Str
building 10, babayan
building 10, babayan street

the last two is kind of strange because it is comma separated and also
looks consistent with Google's style of writing addresses from smaller
divisions to bigger divisions. So still it is not satisfactor :(

Armen

[AM909]

(edited/replaced 20091029 2147 UTC)

First, I don't believe it was Google's intent to show a formally-
formatted address in the non-editing popup or find results, but
probably should be. Representing the line breaks with commas may save
a little space, but seems to contribute to the confusion.

I think there are currently two issues here:

1. Terminology. The definition of the "Address" field (the first,
full-width field) appears to be: Used to identify the specific
building within the Street, as well as smaller divisions within a
building or buildings with the same postal address. In much of the
world, this is just a number that is sequentially assigned along the
Street, and is known in different places as "address", "street
number", or "house number".

It can also be used to specify the name of a building (common in Asia,
Europe). Either or both of these may be present. It may also be used
to specify a smaller subdivision, like floor number, if necessary.

As I understand it, in the example above, you should put "10, bnakaran
23" in the Address field.

2. Address formatting: Different parts of the world format their
addresses differently, and Map Maker (and other products) should
format the addresses correctly based on the Country field. In Armenia,
it appears that the address format, using the field names in the
popup, should be:

Name
Street<space>Address
Post_Code<space>City
COUNTRY

For the example above, assuming you are an architect and
chiropractor :) , and a Post Code of 375000, the address should be
displayed as:

Armen's Design and Manipulation
Babayan 10, bnakaran 23
375000 Yerevan
ARMENIA

Right?

This format seems to be common in much of continental Europe as well,
with the smaller divisions listed after the street name, and the
postal code before the city.

In the US, the format is different:

Address<space>Street
City,<space>State<space><space>Post_Code
COUNTRY

(technically, the postal standard omits the ',' after the city, but
for human readability, the comma is usually included on everything but
actual mail)

However, smaller divisions within a single postal address belong
either after the Street, or on the line _above_ the Address. Assuming
other countries might have similar requirements, this means
that we need a "Sub Address" field to handle things properly. In the
US, the format would be:

Name
Address<space>Street,<space>Sub_Address
City,<space>State<space><space>Post_Code
COUNTRY

or

Name
Sub_Address
Address<space>Street
City,<space>State<space><space>Post_Code
COUNTRY


Examples:

Bob's Baked Goods and Haberdashery
1900 Main St., Suite 112
Sometown, CA 94000
USA

or

American University
Science Building, 1st Floor
1900 Main St.
Sometown, CA 94000
USA

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