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Description: Mantovano, the Virgil mailing list, exists to discuss:

+ The works attributed to Publius Vergilius Maro.

+ The tradition of Virgil interpretation beginning with Servius and continuing to the present day.

+ Virgil's influence on subsequent poetry.

 

"peritus" 
  A quick query - can one ever use "peritus" (the perf. pass. part. of pereo) = dead (or is pereo wholly intransitive)? If so, this would be short 'i' as opposed to 'peritus' = skilled, long-'i'?
By falmouth  - Jul 3 - 2 new of 2 messages    

and C. S. Lewis 
  This is trivial, and doesn't rise to the level of our recent and more serious threads. Collected Letters 3:39 (ed. Walter Hooper) To George Sayer (former student), 21 June 1950 "...We shall have all our days to ourselves except for my calling at the Nursing Home each afternoon [to visit his adoptive mother]; and we... more »
By David Wilson-Okamura  - Jun 10 - 2 new of 2 messages    

A last comment on AL 914 
  ...for now at least... and this time I think telling fairly heavily towards late authorship 1. [Gallus] 99-100 Heu male (crede mihi) si quis sua gaudia differt; Dum loquimur, nox est, mortis et umbra subit.   2. On the one hand, one can well imagine a poem of real Gallus finishing like this: not dissimilar in atmosphere is the end of... more »
By falmouth  - Jun 8 - 1 new of 1 message    

Geo. 3.108-109 
  iamque humiles iamque elati sublime uidentur aera per uacuum ferri atque adsurgere in auras. (Geo. 3.108-109) I see an unexpected wordplay in Geo. 3.109 although I'm not sure that it's not just chimerical. I wonder if anyone else sees the same?
By falmouth  - Jun 4 - 11 new of 11 messages    

.93 and Ciris 343 
  Another point in [Gallus] = AL914, I'm afraid. But I think this one is quite striking 1. [Gallus] 93 “Nec dominae pudeat gremio captare soporem” ‘Capio somnum (vel. sim)’ is a common phrase, but ‘capto somnum (vel. sim)’ is not. But there is a very close parallel at [Verg.] Ciris 343... more »
By falmouth  - May 30 - 6 new of 6 messages    

Venice conference in honor of Mario Geymonat 
  Università Ca’Foscari, Venezia Facoltà di Lettere e Filosofia Facoltà di Lingue e Letterature Straniere Dipartimento di Scienze dell'Antichità e del Vicino Oriente NOSTER MARO GIORNATA DI STUDI VIRGILIANI IN ONORE DI MARIO GEYMONAT Ca’ Foscari – Aula Baratto 27 maggio 2009 Programma... more »
By David Wilson-Okamura  - May 14 - 1 new of 1 message    

Ecphrastic 'ordo' 
  Common to the two most prominent ecphrases in the Aeneid is the introduction of the images using the word "ordine": at Aen. 1.456 (the temple of Dido) "ex ordine" and Aen. 8.625 "in ordine". The point of the emphasis has been variously interpreted - e.g. "ex ordine" at Aen. 1.456 is intended to show that *all* the scenes from the Trojan war... more »
By falmouth  - May 1 - 1 new of 1 message    

Lucan 3.165-8; Gallus Fr. 2 Courtney; Aen. 1.286-90 
  "tunc Orientis opes captorumque ultima regum                  165 quae Pompeianis praelata est gaza triumphis egeritur; tristi spoliantur templa rapina, pauperiorque fuit tum primum Caesare Roma." The context is Julius Caesar's entering into Rome and plundering the temple of Saturn, with the Eastern riches stored there being given the... more »
By falmouth  - Apr 14 - 1 new of 1 message    

More on murder theory 
  Several years ago, one of our former members, Jean-Yves Maleuvre, launched a website, [link], which argues that Virgil was murdered by Augustus. I'm still a skeptic, but a few days ago Maleuvre contacted me to say that the website has been updated with a new look and new evidence. I promised that I would relay this... more »
By David Wilson-Okamura  - Mar 23 - 39 new of 39 messages    

AL914 (...again...) 
  Acer Amor deus est: foetas domat ille leaenas. excuset facinus vindice Scylla deo. At, pius aeternam servet ni Juppiter Urbem, scilicet occiderat virginis illa dolo. (AL 914.29-32) Leofranc, you mentioned that "cantusque sciens" (AL 914.15) - the short e before "sc" was backward looking? Is "vindice Scylla" another... more »
By falmouth  - Mar 23 - 9 new of 9 messages    

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