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Roy

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Feb 22, 2012, 11:18:07 AM2/22/12
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Does anyone have any experience of using one of the plugins that provide a mobile phone readable version of a WP site?

 

I have an eCommerce site at www.mantex.co.uk, for which I would like to provide a mobile phone readable version.

 

There seem to be quite a few four and even five star options available, but none provide clear “How to” instructions

 

Any suggestions or advice very welcome

 

cheers

 

Dr Roy Johnson

MANTEX Information Design

http://www.mantex.co.uk

Phone: 0161 432 5811

Email: r...@mantex.co.uk

Blog: http://mantex.blogspot.com

 

Gary Motteram

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Feb 22, 2012, 11:44:53 AM2/22/12
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I've started using WPTouch, literally from last night, but it only deals with the blogging side of the site, I'd like people to be able to view other content as well ideally, so would be interested in hearing people's views, too.

Gary


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Azzam Sheikh

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Feb 22, 2012, 11:51:44 AM2/22/12
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There is limitations on what an existing site can do by integrating an addon to manipulate the set up and that of a site coded specifically as a mobile version or the plugin modified and custom to function specifically around your site.  

As far a Wordpress+WPtouch is concerned they will work with each other in the boundaries of each others primary set up and functions.  It is not until the developers of WPTouch explore other plugins, layouts, addons i.e.nextgen gallery,  that the plugin is modified to accommodate but they only currently modify for popular plugins anything that is more customised to your site set up may require you to use a developer to make the changes in the WPtouch coding.  

You have to ask a specific question and cite and example [preference screenshot] for someone to give you an exact idea of what is or not achieve with  modification 

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Wendy Cockcroft

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Feb 22, 2012, 11:51:57 AM2/22/12
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http://hjacob.com/blog/2009/07/making-a-phone-number-clickable-for-iphone-users/

Why use as plugin?

On Feb 22, 4:44 pm, Gary Motteram <gary.motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've started using WPTouch, literally from last night, but it only deals
> with the blogging side of the site, I'd like people to be able to view
> other content as well ideally, so would be interested in hearing people's
> views, too.
>
> Gary
>
> On 22 February 2012 16:18, Roy <r...@mantex.co.uk> wrote:
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> > Does anyone have any experience of using one of the plugins that provide a
> > mobile phone readable version of a WP site?****
>
> > ** **
>
> > I have an eCommerce site atwww.mantex.co.uk, for which I would like to
> > provide a mobile phone readable version.****
>
> > ** **
>
> > There seem to be quite a few four and even five star options available,
> > but none provide clear “How to” instructions****
>
> > ** **
>
> > Any suggestions or advice very welcome****
>
> > ** **
>
> > cheers****
>
> > ** **
>
> > Dr Roy Johnson****
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> > MANTEX Information Design****
>
> >http://www.mantex.co.uk****
>
> > Phone: 0161 432 5811****
>
> > Email: r...@mantex.co.uk****
>
> > Blog:http://mantex.blogspot.com****
>
> > ** **
>
> > --
> > See the group blog athttp://mwug.info

Wendy Cockcroft

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Feb 22, 2012, 11:52:54 AM2/22/12
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Sorry, I meant, "a plugin." Just follow the instructions and you'll be
fine.

On Feb 22, 4:44 pm, Gary Motteram <gary.motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've started using WPTouch, literally from last night, but it only deals
> with the blogging side of the site, I'd like people to be able to view
> other content as well ideally, so would be interested in hearing people's
> views, too.
>
> Gary
>
> On 22 February 2012 16:18, Roy <r...@mantex.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Does anyone have any experience of using one of the plugins that provide a
> > mobile phone readable version of a WP site?****
>
> > ** **
>
> > I have an eCommerce site atwww.mantex.co.uk, for which I would like to
> > provide a mobile phone readable version.****
>
> > ** **
>
> > There seem to be quite a few four and even five star options available,
> > but none provide clear “How to” instructions****
>
> > ** **
>
> > Any suggestions or advice very welcome****
>
> > ** **
>
> > cheers****
>
> > ** **
>
> > Dr Roy Johnson****
>
> > MANTEX Information Design****
>
> >http://www.mantex.co.uk****
>
> > Phone: 0161 432 5811****
>
> > Email: r...@mantex.co.uk****
>
> > Blog:http://mantex.blogspot.com****
>
> > ** **
>
> > --
> > See the group blog athttp://mwug.info

Mike Little

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Feb 22, 2012, 12:15:29 PM2/22/12
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On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 16:51, Wendy Cockcroft <in...@wendycockcroftwebdesign.co.uk> wrote:
There is an awful lot more to making a site look good and behave well on a mobile phone than clickable phone numbers...

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Wendy Cockcroft

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Feb 22, 2012, 12:22:27 PM2/22/12
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I realise that, I just wanted to help with the phone number
clickability.

There are some lovely free mobile-first templates available that will
work properly in all browsers. Would you like me to find you some
links? There are plugins that help but many of them will redirect to a
mobile version of the site, which might not be what you want to do.

On Feb 22, 5:15 pm, Mike Little <m...@zed1.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 16:51, Wendy Cockcroft <
>
> i...@wendycockcroftwebdesign.co.uk> wrote:
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> >http://hjacob.com/blog/2009/07/making-a-phone-number-clickable-for-ip...

Perry Bonewell

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Feb 22, 2012, 12:31:37 PM2/22/12
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Maybe more work (as in redesign) but have you considered a responsive design that would resize your layout according to screen size.

There are a few decent responsive WP templates that could be restyled.

Perry

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Roy

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Feb 22, 2012, 12:47:38 PM2/22/12
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Thanks for replies to my initial request

 

As I suspected, there appears to be more to this than might meet the eye

 

So let me take a step back and ask a more fundamental question

 

What options are available for making a web site available to mobile phone users?

 

Am I right in thinking there are two fundamental possibilities?

 

One – to detect that a request comes from a mobile phone user, and to divert the user to a separate site that is designed especially for  mobiles

 

Two – for one’s existing WordPress site plus a clever plugin (with a separate stylesheet) to deliver up one’s existing WP content for viewing on a mobile

 

Is this true? Which option is easier to handle? Are there any other possibilities?

 

Cheers

 

Roy

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Gyp the Cat

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Feb 22, 2012, 12:54:25 PM2/22/12
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Just throwing it in as something to bear in mind (your ecommerce sites are probably very different)...

<off thread>

For the service, professional and health related guys whose websites I look after, my own research showed that a staggering number of visitors (88% is the figure stuck in my head) bounced after reaching the page with contact information, the contact page was the number 1 hop after the homepage land too by a massive amount.

So for a couple of guys who were interested in being more useful to mobile users we setup a new page with contact details and opening times (if applicable), then with WPTouch we made our mobile users land on that first. Granted the bounce rate for mobile users sky rocketed but we took that as a job well done.

The whole Google Local thing may make this a little useless now though I will admit.

</off thread>

Gyp

Wendy Cockcroft

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Feb 22, 2012, 12:55:58 PM2/22/12
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A mobile-first theme would display your website on all browser sizes
but adjust based on the screen size. Responsive design is a different
thing; it will serve stylesheets via media queries based on the screen
size. A mobile-first website will adjust to fit the screen because it
uses percentages, min-widths, and floats. Typically, only one
stylesheet is involved. Responsive images will work either as max-
width or as a range of sizes served to the browser via media queries.

While responsive design is a hot topic, mobile-first design is
starting to take over. It works by designing for the smallest screen
size and letting the content fill the screen. Mobile-first designs
tend to have simple layouts and sometimes boxed text set to a minimum
width. Here's an example of a mobile-first theme for WP:
http://leonpaternoster.com/scherzo/

On Feb 22, 5:47 pm, "Roy " <r...@mantex.co.uk> wrote:
> Thanks for replies to my initial request
>
> As I suspected, there appears to be more to this than might meet the eye
>
> So let me take a step back and ask a more fundamental question
>
> What options are available for making a web site available to mobile phone
> users?
>
> Am I right in thinking there are two fundamental possibilities?
>
> One - to detect that a request comes from a mobile phone user, and to divert
> the user to a separate site that is designed especially for  mobiles
>
> Two - for one's existing WordPress site plus a clever plugin (with a
> separate stylesheet) to deliver up one's existing WP content for viewing on
> a mobile
>
> Is this true? Which option is easier to handle? Are there any other
> possibilities?
>
> Cheers
>
> Roy
>
> From: manchester-word...@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:manchester-word...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Roy
> Sent: 22 February 2012 16:18
> To: manchester-word...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [MWUG] WP Mobile version plugin
>
> Does anyone have any experience of using one of the plugins that provide a
> mobile phone readable version of a WP site?
>
> I have an eCommerce site atwww.mantex.co.uk, for which I would like to
> provide a mobile phone readable version.
>
> There seem to be quite a few four and even five star options available, but
> none provide clear "How to" instructions
>
> Any suggestions or advice very welcome
>
> cheers
>
> Dr Roy Johnson
>
> MANTEX Information Design
>
> http://www.mantex.co.uk
>
> Phone: 0161 432 5811
>
> Email: r...@mantex.co.uk
>
> Blog:http://mantex.blogspot.com
>
> --
> See the group blog athttp://mwug.info

Perry Bonewell

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Feb 22, 2012, 1:19:40 PM2/22/12
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Just responsive design. This works by adding extra mark up to your style sheet (aka media queries).

These check the width and even orientation of the device viewing a given page and resize and/or reflow the content to fit.

This isn't a quick fix as it needs some thought about how to mark up your template (or alternatively adapt a ready made responsive theme).

The advantage is that you can cater for all screen sizes from mobile to tablet to widescreen.

I'm not sure how well supported this is for older mobiles if you need to cater for these users.

Perry

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Perry Bonewell

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Feb 22, 2012, 1:27:09 PM2/22/12
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Apologies Wendy, you answered while I was making my reply.

My take is that "mobile first" is a design technique that is applied to responsive design rather than a separate approach (still uses media queries and css etc) .

See the group blog at http://mwug.info

Wendy Cockcroft

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Feb 22, 2012, 1:42:40 PM2/22/12
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Did you look at the one I linked? The more sophisticated ones do
indeed use media queries but some of them are just dead simple. They
don't always fill the screen up; the one I linked has a relatively
small max width compared to my monitor but it's perfect for mobile.
The other one I saw has boxes set to float left. They slide beneath
each other on a mobile screen. I've done some experimenting on making
mobile websites and found that you can either do it mobile first which
means you can't have more than two columns or they'll get squashed or
you can have a redirect to a different stylesheet that serves
different-sized images according to the breakpoints you have set for
monitor size. The http://leonpaternoster.com/scherzo/ website has but
one CSS file. View source to see the code. There's a JavaScript but it
doesn't redirect it to another CSS file. The CSS it has is being
supported by the JavaScript so it seems we're both right.

Here's the code: <!--[if lt IE 9]>

<script src="http://css3-mediaqueries-js.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/
css3-mediaqueries.js"></script>
<script src="http://html5shim.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/html5.js"></
script>

<![endif]-->

<link rel="stylesheet" media="all" href="http://leonpaternoster.com/
scherzo/wp-content/themes/scherzo/style.css">

<link rel="pingback" href="http://leonpaternoster.com/scherzo/
xmlrpc.php">

<link rel="profile" href="http://gmpg.org/xfn/11">

<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-
scale=1.0, maximum-scale=1.0">

On Feb 22, 6:27 pm, Perry Bonewell <pbonew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Apologies Wendy, you answered while I was making my reply.
>
> My take is that "mobile first" is a design technique that is applied to
> responsive design rather than a separate approach (still uses media queries
> and css etc) .
> On 22 Feb 2012 17:56, "Wendy Cockcroft" <i...@wendycockcroftwebdesign.co.uk>

Wendy Cockcroft

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Feb 22, 2012, 1:45:08 PM2/22/12
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Mind you, I might have a wrong idea of what "media queries" means. I
thought it was to do with detecting the mobile device via breakpoints
based on monitor size.

On Feb 22, 6:27 pm, Perry Bonewell <pbonew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Apologies Wendy, you answered while I was making my reply.
>
> My take is that "mobile first" is a design technique that is applied to
> responsive design rather than a separate approach (still uses media queries
> and css etc) .
> On 22 Feb 2012 17:56, "Wendy Cockcroft" <i...@wendycockcroftwebdesign.co.uk>

Abdullah Kaludi

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Feb 23, 2012, 1:14:37 AM2/23/12
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I have Started Using WPTouch, Its an Fantastic Plugin, I used a Free Virsion, It works well for basic Websites, and also its true that it works basic on blog site, but i think paid version is allowing all the features and there are lots of options and settings in admin, very easy to install without any headache...and works on all the site...

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