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Jon Burton  
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 More options Apr 9 2012, 5:16 pm
From: Jon Burton <jon.bur...@hotmail.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 14:16:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Hosting

Hi Everyone,

At present im using 1&1 cloud servers to power my websites but i now seem
to spend more time patching and updating servers than developing the
websites. Does anyone have any hosting recommendations please? The reason I
went for a dedicated server initially was so I could mess about with mySQL,
domains etc to my hearts content but as I say now its becoming a pain.

Any suggestions welcomed

Thank you
Jon


 
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Discussion subject changed to "Hosting - Dedicated vs Shared" by Philip Valentino
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 More options Apr 9 2012, 6:43 pm
From: Philip Valentino <philip.valent...@mac.com>
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 23:43:58 +0100
Local: Mon, Apr 9 2012 6:43 pm
Subject: Re: [MWUG] Hosting - Dedicated vs Shared

Jon, beforehand  - what is the rationale for running your own "dedicated server" ? eg  personal interest or technical necessity...

If you merely need to host a standard Wordpress site, wondering why you would not go with shared-hosting (done 50 between 2 of us on shared), where ISP manages server-side aspects, and allows devs to mostly focus on the app (and this http://codex.wordpress.org/Hardening_WordPress )

Changing ISP (i.e. migrating a live site..) is a different proposition
maybe shared with 1and1 would meet your needs ?  can they help you migrate ?

if you go from dedicated with A to dedicated with B - my opinion is "life wont change much" for you.

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look over www.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk
we use them.  PLESK control panel.
they answer the phone.  in English - with brummie accents however
and respond to email.

phil

On 9 Apr 2012, at 22:16, Jon Burton wrote:

Hi Everyone,

At present im using 1&1 cloud servers to power my websites but i now seem to spend more time patching and updating servers than developing the websites. Does anyone have any hosting recommendations please? The reason I went for a dedicated server initially was so I could mess about with mySQL, domains etc to my hearts content but as I say now its becoming a pain.

Any suggestions welcomed

Thank you
Jon

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Discussion subject changed to "Hosting" by Perry Bonewell
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 More options Apr 10 2012, 2:10 am
From: Perry Bonewell <pbonew...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 07:10:39 +0100
Local: Tues, Apr 10 2012 2:10 am
Subject: Re: [MWUG] Hosting

I used Webfaction before I went over to VPS with Linode.

Decent performance for shared hosting and massive selection of software to
play with.

Wasn't with them all that long but never had any trouble. I went over to
them after having problems with Media Temple.

Perry
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Discussion subject changed to "Hosting - Dedicated vs Shared" by John Logsdon
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 More options Apr 10 2012, 2:44 am
From: John Logsdon <j.logs...@quantex-research.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 07:44:15 +0100
Local: Tues, Apr 10 2012 2:44 am
Subject: Re: [MWUG] Hosting - Dedicated vs Shared
Looks an interesting operation but the brummie bit must be the operator :-)  

Not that I have anything against Brummies of course.

UWH are in Reynolds House in the Technopark.  Local folk you see.

If you want a dedicated cloud service, I use www.serverlove.com from Melbourne
who live next door in Turing House and also answer the phones and respond to
emails.  They have similar uptimes and also have other services available
under www.melbourne.co.uk.

But as with everything, you are on your own to some extent because they can
only hold your hand a bit for the charges either service makes.  Most folk
don't know their widget from their wicket and really get lost.  Not MWUG
members of course!

Bandwidth charges in Manchester have come down a lot and are I think
competitive with London now.  Whether that is policy in not having too many
eggs in your London basket, progress or the influence of MediaCity, this is
only good news for us.  

There are a lot of advantages in having your hosting local, not the least that
you can go to the offices.  You hear of so many issues with 1&1 and some of
the other mass hosters - one friend of mine had his domain disabled for about
2 weeks on 1&1.  He lost a lot of traffic and spent ages trying to get it
re-enabled - it hadn't expired or anything.

On Monday 09 April 2012 23:43:58 Philip Valentino wrote:

> look over www.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk
> we use them.  PLESK control panel.
> they answer the phone.  in English - with brummie accents however
> and respond to email.

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Azizur Rahman  
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 More options Apr 10 2012, 8:27 am
From: Azizur Rahman <prodevstu...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:27:55 +0100
Local: Tues, Apr 10 2012 8:27 am
Subject: Re: [MWUG] Hosting - Dedicated vs Shared

Hi John,

I am going to recommend none other than http://zed1.com/ for the simple
reason that you'd have top WP developer looking after your hosting.
Security patches very likely would be applied to your WP core even before
you and I find out about them...

As a bonus you'd always have a chance to meet-up with your host at least
once a month without a fail. Go and beat that all those web hosting company.

Regards,

Azizur

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Azzam Sheikh  
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 More options Apr 10 2012, 8:32 am
From: Azzam Sheikh <azzam.she...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:32:09 +0100
Local: Tues, Apr 10 2012 8:32 am
Subject: Re: [MWUG] Hosting - Dedicated vs Shared

I was unaware that zed1 provided hosting :) will need to check it out

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From: Azizur Rahman <prodevstu...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:40:41 +0100
Local: Tues, Apr 10 2012 8:40 am
Subject: Re: [MWUG] Hosting - Dedicated vs Shared

Have a look at: http://zed1.com/services/hosting

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Azizur Rahman

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 More options Apr 10 2012, 11:06 am
From: Azzam Sheikh <azzam.she...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 16:06:08 +0100
Local: Tues, Apr 10 2012 11:06 am
Subject: Re: [MWUG] Hosting - Dedicated vs Shared

thanks

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Discussion subject changed to "Hosting" by Jon Burton
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 More options Apr 10 2012, 3:54 pm
From: Jon Burton <jon.bur...@hotmail.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:54:54 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Apr 10 2012 3:54 pm
Subject: Re: [MWUG] Hosting

Thanks everyone for the advice, the only reason I moved from Shared to
Dedicated was because I was forever getting SQL Unable to connect to
database errors in my SMF Forum which was busy but not THAT busy and
Fasthosts said they couldnt support the connection required on their shared
platform so I went dedicated, initially with a real server then to a cloud
server. The only reason I went dedicated is so I can add domains /
databases etc on the fly, at the time most hosts CPanels wouldnt allow this
but maybe things have moved on since then.

My issue now is my lack of Linux knowledge is causing me issues so I have
the VAR partition at 98% full yet the USR partition is empty! Oh well,
another day another lesson!

If my money was to go anywhere I think as you say Zed1 may well be the best
place, especially as a thank you to Mike for giving up his time hosting
MWUG.


 
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