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Yikes  
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 More options Nov 16 2012, 12:53 pm
From: Yikes <belinda.mus...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:53:55 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 16 2012 12:53 pm
Subject: Found a really interesting WP site

Hi Guys,
I saw this site:
http://startupgiraffe.com/
And thought it was a quite interesting use of WP. As I can't attend the
month, thought I'd post it here!
What does everyone else think?

B


 
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 More options Nov 16 2012, 1:00 pm
From: Mike Little <m...@zed1.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 18:00:24 +0000
Local: Fri, Nov 16 2012 1:00 pm
Subject: Re: [MWUG] Found a really interesting WP site

On 16 November 2012 17:53, Yikes <belinda.mus...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> I saw this site:
> http://startupgiraffe.com/
> And thought it was a quite interesting use of WP. As I can't attend the
> month, thought I'd post it here!
> What does everyone else think?

> B

I'm afraid I absolutely hate sites designed this way. They are a nightmare
for users with accessibility issues.

Mike
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John Logsdon  
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 More options Nov 17 2012, 4:36 am
From: John Logsdon <j.logs...@quantex-research.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 09:55:27 +0000
Local: Sat, Nov 17 2012 4:55 am
Subject: Re: [MWUG] Found a really interesting WP site
I tend to agree with Mike - you need to scroll down and that is not good for
accessibility.  

My main comment though is, if you switch off .css completely, it is all one
page so everything is loaded in one go...

But it does show how enormously flexible a twentyeleven theme can be if you
really want to go that way!

On Friday 16 November 2012 18:00:24 Mike Little wrote:

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 More options Nov 19 2012, 11:10 am
From: Philip Valentino <philip.valent...@mac.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:10:25 +0000
Local: Mon, Nov 19 2012 11:10 am
Subject: Re: [MWUG] Found a really interesting WP site

summary opinion - design has been sacrificed to quality / performance.  how many js files ? jquery twice ? cufon ?  177 requests (its the map in the footer) ? for 190kb page ?
call the page on your mobile - theres piles of it hidden away - fluff that only works on desktop.

for a "design" house they should have started with a blank responsive framework in my opinion, and built from the bottom up. "mobile first"
eg http://foundation.zurb.com & http://themefortress.com/reverie/  (or Bootstrap, Bones, ....)

theres the 'web of ye olde' concept of "mystery meat" a bit like their landing page.
http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/mysterymeatnavigation.html

I do not consider this as exemplary at all - thats not down to Wordpress - its down to the Giraffes.

phil

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On 17 Nov 2012, at 09:55, John Logsdon wrote:

I tend to agree with Mike - you need to scroll down and that is not good for
accessibility.  

My main comment though is, if you switch off .css completely, it is all one
page so everything is loaded in one go...

But it does show how enormously flexible a twentyeleven theme can be if you
really want to go that way!

On Friday 16 November 2012 18:00:24 Mike Little wrote:

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 More options Nov 20 2012, 8:02 am
From: Perry <pbonew...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 05:02:58 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 8:02 am
Subject: Re: Found a really interesting WP site

It would probably look nice screen-capped on the pages of .Net magazine :)
Also I guess it might play well with with the right sort of clients
(graphic heavy presentation and so on).

As an aside, does anyone have any thoughts about the jQuery concertina
effect used on the FAQ section on the site? I first looked at it on my
phone and it struck me that if laid out nicely with thumb sized clickable
links that style of presentation might work well on mobile.

I have a project in mind and was thinking about ways to present text heavy
lists.

Perry


 
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 More options Nov 20 2012, 8:19 am
From: Yikes <belinda.mus...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 05:19:01 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 8:19 am
Subject: Re: [MWUG] Found a really interesting WP site

Sorry if I offended anyone with this site, I'd just hadn't seen a wordpress
site that looked like this before, so thought I'd post it! I didn't look
too closely at the source code!

I am seeing a lot of sites that look like this recently (one very long
page), mostly internet startup companies based in the USA. I wonder if it's
just fashion (like splash screens were) or whether there's a perceived
advantage with Google having all your content on your index page? (not that
there *will* be an advantage with Google of course!) Just wondering!

I didn't think about the accessibility issue about the scrolling, although
they do have "Sticky" navigation which clings to the top on the desktop
version. Would this be an advantage from a usability point of view if you
did have a page that was quite long? It seems to disappear on the mobile
and iPad versions though.

It probably isn't a good idea to make the user load your entire site at
once and they should display the navigation straight away too!

Thanks for the interesting links about responsive design Phil,
am learning more about this at the moment!

:-)


 
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Mike Little  
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 More options Nov 20 2012, 8:49 am
From: Mike Little <m...@zed1.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:48:30 +0000
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 8:48 am
Subject: Re: [MWUG] Found a really interesting WP site

On 20 November 2012 13:19, Yikes <belinda.mus...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry if I offended anyone with this site, I'd just hadn't seen a
> wordpress site that looked like this before, so thought I'd post it! I
> didn't look too closely at the source code!

> I am seeing a lot of sites that look like this recently (one very long
> page), mostly internet startup companies based in the USA. I wonder if it's
> just fashion (like splash screens were) or whether there's a perceived
> advantage with Google having all your content on your index page? (not that
> there *will* be an advantage with Google of course!) Just wondering!

It's absolutely only about a recent design trend. Not just US based, I've
seen a good number of UK and other sites too. Hopefully it will die soon.

> I didn't think about the accessibility issue about the scrolling, although
> they do have "Sticky" navigation which clings to the top on the desktop
> version. Would this be an advantage from a usability point of view if you
> did have a page that was quite long? It seems to disappear on the mobile
> and iPad versions though.

I would mostly regard it as a disadvantage even to sighted and able viewers.

When you first hit the site, the animated scroll 'button' looks like it
should be clicked on, the mouse cursor even changes to tell you you can
click on it. But clicking doesn't do anything.

The persistant navigation is not yet visible at the top of the page.

If you do figure out to scroll down (and many would use the scroll bar at
the side of the window), the first click doesn't change the content other
than to bring the giraffe into view.
I managed to get it so that clicking in the scroll bar a second time puts
the first section of content underneath the navigation so you don't get to
read it!

The services section items animate when you mouse over them, hinting that
maybe you can click on them, but once again nothing happens.

If you click to have the screen scroll to a specific section and the
content scrolled to doesn't fit the page,  then you need to scroll normally
to see through to the end of that section, and if you scroll too far you
get to see the next section and maybe you start reading that, but it's not
a continuation of what you were just reading...
If you then click on the next menu item, it scrolls to a part you've
already seen?

If you manage to make your way back to the top of the page, the scroll hint
has now gone and you are left looking at just two words and no clue what to
do.

It can be very confusing for people who are not familiar with the web, it
is so very different from most of what they have previously encountered.
For people with cognitive difficulties, I should imagine it could be
impossible to understand.

Mike
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