Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:05:22 -0700 (PDT) From: James Newton <jamesnew...@geocities.com> To: makerspace-san-diego@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <8773106.992.1333058722651.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynes7> In-Reply-To: <CAHspGfFWmnUCzVuBMuGz6f12=O_AqnUyp7TdwH-4zTEd88W7pw@mail.gmail.com> References: <28651867.204.1332267895703.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynim7> <CAHspGfH4X6K7+a5yrBG4Wj1+E8JFkwytE3UUYiG3Pa9Yjs8NQA@mail.gmail.com> <22889572.718.1332285732076.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynkv7> <7375683.1479.1332287942672.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbue17> <14860513.606.1332358686898.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynbu11> <CAHspGfFvMAEjpfH=HEw-b2On6g_=EFVy7kVr=Y0ZuQJJSKUTmQ@mail.gmail.com> <1646706.570.1332734489155.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynlp3> <23490720.285.1332865146131.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynko6> <CAHxkw7sJxCFkhj3V4xn+kORsv4R-JufzuW-iN4C4JdLvcoHJ4w@mail.gmail.com> <25507932.462.1333039379106.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynnk21> <CAHspGfFWmnUCzVuBMuGz6f12=O_AqnUyp7TdwH-4zTEd88W7pw@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Making a 3D printer workshop - Electronics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_990_6218399.1333058722649" ------=_Part_990_6218399.1333058722649 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_991_24143661.1333058722649" ------=_Part_991_24143661.1333058722649 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cool! Let me know how that goes? Are you going to isolation mill or toner transfer and etch? I assume, since you mention a printer, that you are doing the toner thing. Lots of info at: http://techref.massmind.org/techref/tonertransfer.htm -- James. On Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:21:50 PM UTC-7, Saint J wrote: > > One thing that needs to be done, and one I'm going to attempt to do this > weekend is to manufacturer one of these boards myself, also to just get the > printer working. i think i have most of the necessary basic components. but > we'll see > On Mar 29, 2012 9:43 AM, "James Newton" <jamesnew...@geocities.com> wrote: > >> Hi Richard, glad to hear from someone. >> >> Markus and I have continued talking about the Gen7 electronics, tossing >> ideas back and forth. He is about to release a version 1.4 board and wants >> to switch to the TB6560 driver which would save some more money over the >> Polulu boards and provide more drive capacity. The TB6560 has a horrible >> flaw, >> >> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/stepper_motors_drives/139306-how_can_any_tb6560_driver.html >> >> but he is working around it by limiting the power supply options to ATX >> only and using the standby power for logic before switching on the +12 >> supply, or by including a separate motor supply switch. >> >> At this point, based on the lack of interest here, and the limited >> interest on the forum at Makerplace (and the fact that you must be a paying >> member to post on that forum), and no contact from John about the class he >> was talking about offering, I'm going to step back and concentrate on other >> projects. >> >> If John or you or anyone else asks, I'll be happy to answer questions or >> do whatever I can to help, but otherwise, I think I've done all that is >> worth doing at this point. Hopefully interest will grow in the future. >> >> -- >> James. >> >> On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:37:06 AM UTC-7, Richard Rouse wrote: >>> >>> Hi James, >>> >>> This is awesome, I am interested in this board since then you don't >>> need to buy an expensive arduino mega. Its really cool but I have 4 >>> RAMPS kits already. >>> >>> I think customers want preassembled boards (that's what ultimachine >>> says). So would be keen on helping automating fabrication if there's >>> interest. Maybe could do at this makerplace >>> >>> Not sure what is going on with this group ... seems like no notices >>> for meetings been busy last couple of weeks but would be interested in >>> going next meeting. >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:19 AM, James Newton <jamesnew...@geocities.com> >>> wrote: >>> > So, I've been talking to Markus Hitter from Germany who is the guy who >>> did >>> > the board layout for the Gen 7 electronics. He wants to sell kits of >>> the >>> > PCBs with all the parts and the cost varies from $73 each for one down >>> to >>> > $54 each for 10. $60 each for 5. That is for all the components in both >>> > tables on the wiki page, but NOT including the endstop PCBs. He will >>> also >>> > sell the PCBs for between $25 and $20 depending on quantity. All of >>> that is >>> > including shipping price from Germany. He will take paypal, direct, >>> but I'm >>> > working with him on making a shopping cart so his presentation to US >>> > customers will be a little more acceptable. Just wanted to let you >>> know. >>> > >>> > So we can either include making the PCB as part of the workshop or >>> just buy >>> > it. Honestly, I think most people would just like the electronics part >>> of >>> > the build to "go away" LOL... so I question including the making of >>> the PCB. >>> > Some people are probably interested in how to make one, but I think >>> that >>> > might be better as a separate workshop. That's just my opinion. It can >>> work >>> > either way. >>> > >>> > If I can find the time, I'm also going to look at having the PCB >>> > professionally produced. I'm not sure, but I think it could be less >>> than $20 >>> > each even in very small quantities. And a professional PCB is SO much >>> nicer >>> > to solder or repair if needed. >>> > >>> > I'm sort of starting to loose interest in this based on the lack of >>> feedback >>> > from anyone other than Jeremie. If there anyone out there? LOL... >>> Speak up >>> > so we know you are still involved! >>> >>> -- >>> Richard Rouse >>> HTS Resources, LLC. >>> 325 W. Washington St. #2-150 >>> San Diego, CA 92103 USA >>> 619-846-8291 >>> rjdro...@htsresources.com >>> www.htsresources.com >>> >>> ------=_Part_991_24143661.1333058722649 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cool! Let me know how that goes? Are you going to isolation mill or toner transfer and etch? I assume, since you mention a printer, that you are doing the toner thing. Lots of info at:<br><a href="http://techref.massmind.org/techref/tonertransfer.htm">http://techref.massmind.org/techref/tonertransfer.htm</a> <div><br></div><div>--</div><div>James.<br><br>On Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:21:50 PM UTC-7, Saint J wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><p>One thing that needs to be done, and one I'm going to attempt to do this weekend is to manufacturer one of these boards myself, also to just get the printer working. i think i have most of the necessary basic components. but we'll see</p> <div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 29, 2012 9:43 AM, "James Newton" <<a href="mailto:jamesnew...@geocities.com" target="_blank">jamesnew...@geocities.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi Richard, glad to hear from someone. <div><br></div><div>Markus and I have continued talking about the Gen7 electronics, tossing ideas back and forth. He is about to release a version 1.4 board and wants to switch to the TB6560 driver which would save some more money over the Polulu boards and provide more drive capacity. The TB6560 has a horrible flaw, <br> <a href="http://www.cnczone.com/forums/stepper_motors_drives/139306-how_can_any_tb6560_driver.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnczone.com/forums/<wbr>stepper_motors_drives/139306-<wbr>how_can_any_tb6560_driver.html</a><wbr> <br>but he is working around it by limiting the power supply options to ATX only and using the standby power for logic before switching on the +12 supply, or by including a separate motor supply switch. <div> <br></div><div>At this point, based on the lack of interest here, and the limited interest on the forum at Makerplace (and the fact that you must be a paying member to post on that forum), and no contact from John about the class he was talking about offering, I'm going to step back and concentrate on other projects. </div> <div><br></div><div>If John or you or anyone else asks, I'll be happy to answer questions or do whatever I can to help, but otherwise, I think I've done all that is worth doing at this point. Hopefully interest will grow in the future.</div> <div><br></div><div>--</div><div>James.<br><br>On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:37:06 AM UTC-7, Richard Rouse wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi James,<p>This is awesome, I am interested in this board since then you don't<br>need to buy an expensive arduino mega. Its really cool but I have 4<br>RAMPS kits already.</p><p>I think customers want preassembled boards (that's what ultimachine<br> says). So would be keen on helping automating fabrication if there's<br>interest. Maybe could do at this makerplace</p><p>Not sure what is going on with this group ... seems like no notices<br>for meetings been busy last couple of weeks but would be interested in<br> going next meeting.</p><p>Richard</p><p>On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:19 AM, James Newton <<a href="mailto:jamesnew...@geocities.com" target="_blank">jamesnew...@geocities.com</a>> wrote:<br>> So, I've been talking to Markus Hitter from Germany who is the guy who did<br> > the board layout for the Gen 7 electronics. He wants to sell kits of the<br>> PCBs with all the parts and the cost varies from $73 each for one down to<br>> $54 each for 10. $60 each for 5. That is for all the components in both<br> > tables on the wiki page, but NOT including the endstop PCBs. He will also<br>> sell the PCBs for between $25 and $20 depending on quantity. All of that is<br>> including shipping price from Germany. He will take paypal, direct, but I'm<br> > working with him on making a shopping cart so his presentation to US<br>> customers will be a little more acceptable. Just wanted to let you know.<br>><br>> So we can either include making the PCB as part of the workshop or just buy<br> > it. Honestly, I think most people would just like the electronics part of<br>> the build to "go away" LOL... so I question including the making of the PCB.<br>> Some people are probably interested in how to make one, but I think that<br> > might be better as a separate workshop. That's just my opinion. It can work<br>> either way.<br>><br>> If I can find the time, I'm also going to look at having the PCB<br>> professionally produced. I'm not sure, but I think it could be less than $20<br> > each even in very small quantities. And a professional PCB is SO much nicer<br>> to solder or repair if needed.<br>><br>> I'm sort of starting to loose interest in this based on the lack of feedback<br> > from anyone other than Jeremie. If there anyone out there? LOL... Speak up<br> > so we know you are still involved!</p><p></p><p>-- <br>Richard Rouse<br>HTS Resources, LLC.<br>325 W. Washington St. #2-150<br>San Diego, CA 92103 USA<br><a value="+16198468291">619-846-8291</a><br> <a href="mailto:rjdro...@htsresources.com" target="_blank">rjdro...@htsresources.com</a><br><a href="http://www.htsresources.com" target="_blank">www.htsresources.com</a><br></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p> </blockquote> </div></div></blockquote></div> </blockquote></div> ------=_Part_991_24143661.1333058722649-- ------=_Part_990_6218399.1333058722649--
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