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Spencer Bliven  
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From: Spencer Bliven <quant...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:28:48 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 11 2012 9:28 pm
Subject: New Reprapper

Hello,

I'm currently trying to buy hardware for my first reprap, and found this
group on the forum. It looks like a fun group of makers–I look forward to
the next meeting!

I was wondering if anyone had advice on local dealers for hardware or
electronics? I can always find things online, but sometimes it's nicer to
buy things locally so you can see what you're getting. In particular, would
anyone in the group be interested in selling a set of printed prusa parts?
I'd rather deal with friendly face than a random ebay dealer, and maybe get
some advice while I'm at it.

Cheers,
Spencer


 
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From: John Ecker <mrjohnec...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:40:49 -0700
Local: Tues, Sep 11 2012 9:40 pm
Subject: Re: New Reprapper

You may be able to get parts from Jeremie Santos. I gave him parts and now
he's printing wonderfully. You can make your own gen7 electronics. The nuts
and bolts can be bought from Marshall's hardware in Miramar.
On Sep 12, 2012 11:28 AM, "Spencer Bliven" <quant...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,

> I'm currently trying to buy hardware for my first reprap, and found this

group on the forum. It looks like a fun group of makers–I look forward to
the next meeting!

> I was wondering if anyone had advice on local dealers for hardware or

electronics? I can always find things online, but sometimes it's nicer to
buy things locally so you can see what you're getting. In particular, would
anyone in the group be interested in selling a set of printed prusa parts?
I'd rather deal with friendly face than a random ebay dealer, and maybe get
some advice while I'm at it.


 
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From: Jeremie Santos <jeremie.san...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:01:52 -0700
Local: Tues, Sep 11 2012 10:01 pm
Subject: Re: New Reprapper

Hi Spencer,
I can certain print you the parts for a Prusa.
Send me an email and we can talk business.
-Jeremie


 
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From: Spencer Bliven <sbli...@ucsd.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:33:58 -0700
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2012 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: New Reprapper

Thanks a lot! I currently have the electronics prototyped on a breadboard.
I was thinking of making a Gen7 after I get the printer mostly working, but
etching is a bit intimidating so I'm putting it off.

-Spencer

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From: Richard Rouse <rjdro...@htsresources.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:43:35 -0700
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2012 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: New Reprapper
Hi Spencer,

I use ultimachine RAMPS and make mendelmax style repstraps ... but
design is customizable based on configuration.

If you are curious I run a biotech reprap lab  (www.htsresources.com)
... its moved to sorrento valley. We build various modules for
scientific stuff.

The shop is at oneworldlab.com we mostly focus on selling small
antibody aliquots but play around (alot) with reprap to handle samples
at this small volume scale.

I kind of think prusa is not work making since there are so many other
configurations now.

Anyway if you want to see one in action you are welcome to stop by anytime.

regards,
Richard

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Spencer Bliven  
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From: Spencer Bliven <quant...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:31:07 -0700
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2012 1:31 pm
Subject: Re: New Reprapper

Richard,

Thanks for the offer! I may take you up on that someday when I can arrange
for a car. It's always fun to see bio applications for repraps (I'm a
bioinformatics grad at UCSD). Have you seen any of Russell Neches' thesis
work? He uses custom-printed 96-well
plates<http://vort.org/2011/09/19/how-sequence-10000-metagenomes-3d-printer/>for
metagenomic sequencing. He also has some really cool arduino and
open-hardware hacks as part of his
thesis<http://vort.org/2012/03/04/blogging-my-candidacy-exam/>.
My second-favorite bioreprap is the Baricuda sugar
extruder<http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:26343>,
which they used to engineer vascular networks in artificial tissues.

I'm surprised to hear a strong statement like "not worth making" applied to
the prusa. What do you feel are the principle drawbacks to the prusa? Build
volume? Accuracy? Does using aluminum extrusions instead of threaded rod
really make such a big difference?

Cheers,
Spencer

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Richard Rouse  
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From: Richard Rouse <rjdro...@htsresources.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:52:09 -0700
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2012 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: New Reprapper
Everyone is different. Prusa is great but you are limited by scaling
... you spend all this time making it then you have it and you're like
it would be cooler .. if so I had made a couple of prusas only to take
the apart to make something else. So aluminum extruders are the way to
go for me. But I need to be flexible for adapting to various customers
,etc .

It depends on what you want to do I guess.

Richard

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Spencer Bliven  
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 More options Sep 12 2012, 2:16 pm
From: Spencer Bliven <quant...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:15:53 -0700
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2012 2:15 pm
Subject: Re: New Reprapper

Taking it apart and making it cooler seems like the whole point of open
hardware. But I don't have to print on a deadline for customers, so I guess
that gives you a different perspective. For now I think I'll go with the
best documented machine, which is the standard prusa.

-Spencer

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Richard Rouse  
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From: Richard Rouse <rjdro...@htsresources.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:23:27 -0700
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2012 2:23 pm
Subject: Re: New Reprapper
well I guess you can think this way but if the design not as good then
... what good is the documentation.

anyway bukobot is opening a store later this month in la for 3d
printing that design is pretty nice:
http://deezmaker.com/

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From: "Eric Y." <ericrobertyo...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:41:02 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2012 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: New Reprapper

I recently did a lot of research on the various machines out there and I
have to agree with Richard that the design of the Prusa seems, IMHO, not as
thought out as a number of the newer designs. Not that it's bad - it's just
not as evolved. I'm new to RepRap so bear that in mind when evaluating my
opinion, but I am a Mechinical Engineer who has been designing machines for
7 years now, so I have a fair sense the quality of a design if I look at it
with some thoughtfulness. That's what I did when researching machines for
myself, and in the end there were two that really stuck out to me. Keep in
mind I don't know for sure that I covered all the machines out there in my
searching.

Tantillus:
http://www.tantillus.org/Home.html
http://forums.reprap.org/list.php?279

B9 Creator:
http://b9creator.com/

I was looking for high resolution at a low cost, and I ended up going with
the Tantillus. So far it's just blown me away - much better than the
$30,000 FDM machine I used to have at work, in terms of surface quality and
tolerances. And the support from the designer (Brad aka Sublime) is just
amazing - he is extremely knowledgeable about 3D printing and seems to
truly care about creating a high quality open-source product.  

-Eric


 
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Eric Y.  
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From: "Eric Y." <ericrobertyo...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:14:28 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2012 5:14 pm
Subject: Re: New Reprapper

Haha almost forgot to answer your original question - I've already started
printing a set of the printed parts for a Tantillus machine (I figured I'd
either build another one for myself or sell the parts to someone who wanted
them), so if you're interested let me know.

I second Marshall's for hardware. I'm not much of an electronics guy, but
the best place I know of for components is Avenue Electronics on University
Ave. in the City Heights area.


 
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Richard Rouse  
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From: Richard Rouse <rjdro...@htsresources.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:50:24 -0700
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2012 5:50 pm
Subject: Re: New Reprapper
thanks eric for heads up about electronics store. I would like to see
that machine ...don't know if the group meets up at makerplace but
give a shout out  if you ever intend to bring it I will try to stop by

Richard

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Eric Y. <ericrobertyo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Haha almost forgot to answer your original question - I've already started
> printing a set of the printed parts for a Tantillus machine (I figured I'd
> either build another one for myself or sell the parts to someone who wanted
> them), so if you're interested let me know.

> I second Marshall's for hardware. I'm not much of an electronics guy, but
> the best place I know of for components is Avenue Electronics on University
> Ave. in the City Heights area.

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6450 Lusk Blvd #E103
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From: "Eric Y." <ericrobertyo...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:00:39 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2012 8:00 pm
Subject: Re: New Reprapper

Richard - I really don't know much at all about this group and if/where it
meets, but I'd be willing to meet up and talk shop sometime if you like.
Your business sounds very interesting to me and I'd love to come by some
day and bring the Tantillus along, if you like.

Looking at your website made me think of this 'chemical printer' (for lack
of a better term) and I figured it might be something that would interest
you if you haven't seen it already:
http://www.chem.gla.ac.uk/cronin/research.php?t=3D%20Printing


 
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From: Spencer Bliven <quant...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:06:05 -0700
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2012 8:06 pm
Subject: Re: New Reprapper

Eric,

Whoa, I hadn't see the B9 before. Resin curing results in some amazing
products! I deal with protein structures at work, and am always impressed
when someone has one professionally printed using powder-based printers. I
hadn't seen any DIY versions. I might be interested once they release the
source files.

Have you felt restricted by the small build envelope of the Tantillus?
100^3 is smaller than even the huxley.

-Spencer

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Richard Rouse  
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From: Richard Rouse <rjdro...@htsresources.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:27:23 -0700
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2012 8:27 pm
Subject: Re: New Reprapper
Eric,

Thanks for the link .. yes we do this stuff and its very much the
focal part of our business ... making various random science gadgets.

Please stop by anytime.  We have 2 reprappers in the lab right now but
mostly just making testing and making again.

Normally we are there everyday 9to5. I can do later if you have a better time.

I guess San Diego is sort of less developed as a reprap community
compared to other places, but we had meetings for a while I thought
people would meet up at makerplace. Anyway if there is a shin dig at
makerplace  (like on Saturdays wasnt that the day?), I am happy to
bring over a system.

Our lab is pretty fun, I still use the system that the this group
started building when we had a meeting at my lab when it was at UCSD
Hillcrest. That was great fun but when we tried to have the meeting
again ... no one showed up ... I guess they weren't into it, but this
was before makerplace thing started.

If there as a general interest on behalf the group ... then I would
prefer going to Makerplace. But you just want to talk shop compare
systems, then by all means stop by anytime. That would be awesome.

regards,
Richard

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From: Richard Rouse <rjdro...@htsresources.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:33:01 -0700
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2012 8:33 pm
Subject: Re: New Reprapper
Spencer,

Are you talking about something like this:
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:27794

Richard

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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:14:43 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2012 9:14 pm
Subject: Re: New Reprapper

Yeah that B9 printer is just amazing (as is it's creator - Michael Joyce)
and it came out of the work done by this yahoo group that's been around for
a while:  
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/diy_3d_printing_and_fabrication/

I don't know a whole lot about the powder printers, but there is this group
of folks who buy old Zcorp powder machines off Ebay and make home
brew powder recipes: http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/zcorp402/

Another interesting SLA style machine that I know nothing about, but that
seems very nice:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-a-Laser-3D-Printer-Stereolithog...

The Tantillus build volume is a definite limitation. The creator (Sublime)
is currently working on a 100x200x100 version (I've actually helped with
the CAD modeling for this larger version Tantillus and it seems not too far
off from being ready, though there is one issue with the build platform
constraints that still needs surmounting). Personally most of my parts fit
within the 100^3 area and if I need something larger then creating a
butt-joint or dovetail joint in the CAD model and then gluing multiple
parts together seems to work very well as long the joints are properly
designed with lots of surface area contact and can distribute any
stresses adequately. If you don't need such high resolution it may not be
the best choice for you. Also I have heard that there are people out there
who have fine-tuned other RepRap printers to produce comparable resolution
to the Tantillus - I just am under the impression that it's inherently more
difficult to get them to that high-resolution point and to keep them in
tune once they're there. I'm not very knowledgeable about this though so
maybe someone else can chime in if I'm wrong.


 
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From: "Eric Y." <ericrobertyo...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:19:12 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2012 9:19 pm
Subject: Re: New Reprapper

Okay well maybe people will pipe up in this thread if there's an interest
in meeting at a Makerplace? You can count me in. Otherwise I'll drop by
your lab some time.


 
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:50:27 -0700
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Subject: Re: New Reprapper

If I was just starting of I would go with either the rostock - delta
printer or the RepRap pro mendel which has a lot of room for upgrades and
is under $900
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:35:31 -0700
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2012 11:35 pm
Subject: Re: New Reprapper
My shop offers 3 different kinds of dispensing techniques for powders:

1. Pneumatic (using a air tank/vacuum and different size nozzles)
2. Microcontact (PDMS or agarose stamps)
3. Piezoelectric using combined syringe pump

Of course they can be put on a repstrap system which we build or you
can build whatever.

Richard

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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:37:09 -0700
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Subject: Re: New Reprapper
I've already printed the rostock parts but bagged the project, if
anyone wants to try building it.

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Richard Rouse

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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:35:28 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject: Re: New Reprapper

I am sure thirsty for a cup of coffee and
to see some familiar faces.  
I will try to be at the coffee shop in Normal Heights
9:30 or 10:00 Sat morning on the chance  some of you will turn up.  
I have printed on the pro ABS printer at MakerPlace.
It is basically  push button  from  an STL file.
I  got good results at .010 layer resolution.
If anyone is interested I would be happy to discuss
trying their  designs there.    Cost is high  $6/cu in.
There is idol talk of their having a RepRap level machine
too.   And they could probably use a teacher for that.
Also of interest there is a CNC mill.  
There are just starting to get experience with it.

MakerPlace is expensive. I have been in Santa Fe and  I am currently
on leave.   But I have some things I need to do and
will be starting my membership again.  

Rob Fryer
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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 12:33:13 -0700
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Subject: Re: New Reprapper
Hi Guys,

I have been working on a Prusa off and on for a while now.  I haven't
gotten it up and running yet though.  I'm a mechanical engineer, but I
don't have much knowledge related to electronics and software.  I
think it's a really interesting project and it would be great to meet
some people with similiar interests.

Would you mind telling me the address of the coffee shop?

Thanks,

Dan

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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:03:37 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject: Re: New Reprapper

Hi Dan,  

Place I have in mind is

Lestats coffee shop on Adams in the Normal Heights
near the sign.

I have no idea if anyone will show up, but the two of us.
Coffee is good tho.  

If you are a mechanical engineer, do not miss a chance
to see what Richard Rouse is up to.

Rob


 
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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:17:46 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Sep 14 2012 5:17 pm
Subject: Re: New Reprapper

I've got somewhat tentative plans tomorrow morning and if they fall through
I'll show up at Lestat's.


 
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