Replicator 2 / MakerBot Store Photos

[JohnA.]

Just a few crappy phone cam pics:   

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jabella/sets/72157631585306127/

Got a few detail shots, maybe something people haven't seen before.  Also got pics of some of the printed parts being sold at what seemed like REALLY high prices.

JohnA.

[Z LeHericy]

*scrapes jaw off floor* I run a 3d printing BUISNESS out of my dorm room in college and I don't charge that absurd of prices!!!!! The plastic for the heart gear prints is worth $5 MAYBE... I hope Emmett is getting paid a handy amount of each of those sales, because otherwise, that's disgraceful!

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[Shawn]

holy crap! $249 for the heart gears??? I'm doing something wrong then
selling them for $20. (and still making money) And $749 for the giant
heart gears? I priced that out at approx $50-100, with profit. They
must be going for the "designer" market.

On 12-09-20 07:00 PM, Z LeHericy wrote:
> *scrapes jaw off floor* I run a 3d printing BUISNESS out of my dorm room
> in college and I don't charge that absurd of prices!!!!! The plastic for
> the heart gear prints is worth $5 MAYBE... I hope Emmett is getting paid
> a handy amount of each of those sales, because otherwise, that's
> disgraceful!
>
> -Zeno LeHericy
>
> //((=:Z:=))\\
> INVENTIONS
> Technologies

> zinventions.com <http://zinventions.com>

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> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 5:49 PM, JohnA. <john....@gmail.com
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>
> Just a few crappy phone cam pics:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jabella/sets/72157631585306127/
>
> Got a few detail shots, maybe something people haven't seen before.
> Also got pics of some of the printed parts being sold at what
> seemed like REALLY high prices.
>
> JohnA.
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[Aaron Double]

Have to pay the rent somehow…

[Dan Newman]

On 20 Sep 2012 , at 6:00 PM, Z LeHericy wrote:

> *scrapes jaw off floor* I run a 3d printing BUISNESS out of my dorm room in
> college and I don't charge that absurd of prices!!!!! The plastic for the

> heart gear prints is worth $5 MAYBE…

While I'm sure that college dorm room is not cheap, does it have retail window
space at street level on a nice street in NYC? But heck, if people are willing
to pay those prices, then I won't fault MBI for selling to them. And, btw, I
had someone offer to pay me $200 for a large heart gears. I told them it wasn't
for sale (since I had printed it as a gift for a ballet studio and at that studio
it entertains a lot of people there every day).

> I hope Emmett is getting paid a
> handy amount of each of those sales, because otherwise, that's disgraceful!

Well, that's between Emmett and MBI.

Dan

[Fastrack]

+1 jes.. I can't believe the prices... Did they forget some decimal places?

[Dan Newman]

On 20 Sep 2012 , at 6:13 PM, Fastrack wrote:

> +1 jes.. I can't believe the prices... Did they forget some decimal places?

Sure, if they were on Fifth Avenue or in the MoMA gift shop they could add another zero to the left of the decimal ;)

[c f]

That's kind of like saying "Man, I can't believe that painting is $5,000! I bet there's only $50 worth of paint on that thing."

As others have pointed out, 1) there store is located on some of the most expensive real estate on the planet, 2) they have to pay people enough to eat in the aforementioned expensive city, and 3) they're selling it as cool artwork, not bulk chunks of plastic.

This popped up earlier in a different thread, but this is a good place remind people: When accounting for 'costs', you have the cost of the plastic feedstock, electricity to run it, wear & tear on the machine (which requires maintenance and has a finite lifespan), opportunity cost of not being able to use the machine for something else, setup & finishing time for an operator, having an operator babysit the operation, along with amortizing the cost of failed print jobs over your successful prints.

I would wager the guy in his dorm room is probably not paying for his rent/tuition with his 3D printer =)

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[Zak Kus]

I dont know what they offer Sir Emmet, but they asked me if they could sell my derivative of his heart, and they did offer money... though it's a flat one hundred bones. I was minutes away from sending in the paperwork, since the money wasn't a big deal to me (but i dig the little bit of fame), however the huge markup makes me think twice.

[PropellerScience]

So maybe I could get $1000 for the Celtic Skull I printed a couple
weeks ago?

[Andy]

You guys. :)

I think it's pretty cool that they can sell the prints for so much. Doing this stuff is still quite challenging for the average Joe. I'm sure just about every single one of us has the dream that we could make a living by modeling and printing cool stuff on our Makerbots. Plus, that store probably cost close to a million bucks to create. They need to recoup their expenses.

Wouldn't it be awesome if part of getting featured on thingiverse was getting your stuff featured and sold in the store?
What if Makerbot had stores all over America, and sold your prints there? Kinda like selling an app in a mobile app store. Makerbot handles the storefront, customer relations, credit card processing, and all you have to do is make awesome stuff and put it on thingiverse ?

Sounds good to me!

And to the guy selling prints out of his dorm room, that's how Dell got started. (building PCs anyways.) I would of done the same if I had a Makerbot when I was in art school.

-Andy

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> So maybe I could get $1000 for the Celtic Skull I printed a couple
> weeks ago?
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[aelag]

They are selling it for that much because they are treating the objects as art. The $300 price range is the category for entry level rising artists. It better come with a one-of-a-kind engraved signature. 

I'm glad and a little jealous that Emmet seems to be doing well on his etsy site - over 500 sales all time. Haha, his heart gears ( maybe the smaller versions?) sell for like $30 there. 

Glad Makerbot is being the guinea pig of 3D printing retail. 

 

Just realized that you can buy a 3D printer for the price of the big heart gear. 8( 

[Jordan Miller]

I hope that ultra smooth Stanford bunny on their stand is not derived from my high resolution one. the high res one I put on thingiverse is non-commercial attribution license.

not cool. ugh.

jordan

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[Rob Myers]

On 09/21/2012 02:36 AM, c f wrote:
> That's kind of like saying "Man, I can't believe that painting is
> $5,000! I bet there's only $50 worth of paint on that thing."

Indeed.

Establishing that 3D prints can be valuable art is good for anyone who
wants to sell them.

- Rob.

[Lincoln K]

I hope was concerned that they might be selling prints to cheaply.

I am glad to hear they're charging that much for the prints. As someone who uses 3 D printing to make artwork, I like to be compensated for all the time I put into designing my work, as well as all the time the machine takes to make it, since I can't use the machine during that time to test more ideas.

Lincoln

[lassikin]

the paint analogy doesn't quite work, unless you were talking about charging 5000 bucks for a laser print of the said artwork.
such pricing better come with limited edition numbering and signature, or some rather exotic printing technique(such is quite common in art). 800 bucks for the heart gear is fleecing or possibly marketing to make the machine itself seem cheaper.

not too many figurines at forbidden planet even are that costly, mind you - and I'd wager that's at costlier real estate. they just pulled a number out of hat and put that on a cool item, nice of them to link the thingiverse item number there but I can't help but to wonder if it's going to imply to the visitors that printing things with makerbot is very expensive..

-Lassi

[Michael Cook]

Is that a ball run in the front window using filament as railing? That's a great idea.

[JohnA.]

The rails are printed items as well, not just regular filament.  

 

The ball run wasn't quite working while I was there, but I'm told that it did work...

 

 

John A.

[Mark Cohen]

Yes. The balls magnetically climb up the right wall and back in.

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> Is that a ball run in the front window using filament as railing? That's a
> great idea.
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[Richard]

Folks, REMEMBER, displaying for sale vs actually selling things is
different. I am sure there will be people who will foolishly pay that
much for one of those items, but doubt it will be huge volume or
last. I see this store as a marketing thing for Makerbot, it
accomplishes several things:

1. VISIBILITY: Provides a highly visible venue for showcasing their
products (or should I say product, the Replicator 2). This will get
much more visibility and attention than their "factory" in Brooklyn.
2. IMAGE: Makes them look "cool"..."Wow, dude, this is awesome, I
wonder if it will work with my iPhone 5...I think I will buy a printer
and make a case ($2100) for my phone."
3. JUSTIFICATION: Makes people believe they can make big money
printing things on a Makerbot...."Look honey, this thing only costs
$2100, I want one. I can make up the money printing and selling just
3 giant hearts!"

So, I see the Makerbot store as a permanent display ad, so far. I am
pretty sure it will be busy during the holidays, but if they don't
have product in stock (4-6 week leadtime, remember) then it won't
have a big immediate revenue impact for them. I wonder if they will
give preference on inventory to the store. I think they probably
will, I would if I was them.

Before you go crazy about this idea of Makerbot stores everywhere,
just think about this question..."Will it work in Topeka?"

The reality of these printers for most people is that you buy them
because you are interested in the cool technology and have excess cash
to spend on it. This will not be a profit making thing for 99% of the
owners. Now, on the other hand, if a way could be created to monetize
the designs for the designers, we might have something. Would you pay
a subscription model that charged you 25 cents to a dollar for every
model you downloaded with the designer getting 94% and Thingiverse 6%
commission? I might.

The screw heart by Emmet has been downloaded about 2000 times, I would
pay $1 for this model which would net Emmet $1,880 from all the
downloads so far. Other models might only be able to get 25 cents or
might have be free. I think the Up printer people at 3D systems are
trying this, I doubt it is working well with Thingiverse available.

The complications in doing this would be immense as there would be
digital rights issues tied to $. How do you handle derivatives? Yes,
people could download things and put the design on another site for
free, or email it to friends. Anyone remember the free music sharing/
stealing sites?

So for now, let's just upload designs and share them.

[Aaron Double]

I agree with everything you said except for a typo, the printer from 3D systems is called the cube. the Up printer is from pp3dp.

Aaron