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Kevin Darcy  
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 More options Aug 31 2004, 2:24 am
Newsgroups: mailing.unix.bind-users
From: k...@daimlerchrysler.com (Kevin Darcy)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:24:57 +0800 (CST)
Local: Tues, Aug 31 2004 2:24 am
Subject: Re: Messages On Startup

p...@icke-reklam.ipsec.nu wrote:
>Kevin Darcy <k...@daimlerchrysler.com> wrote:

>>Barry Margolin wrote:

>>>In article <cge2go$1ub...@sf1.isc.org>,
>>>Kevin Darcy <k...@daimlerchrysler.com> wrote:

>>>>Barry Margolin wrote:

>>>>>In article <cg6c75$nm...@sf1.isc.org>,
>>>>>Kevin Darcy <k...@daimlerchrysler.com> wrote:

>>>>>>Hmmm, okay, I'll go tell our plant-floor folks that they can't use their
>>>>>>paint-control/milling/stamping/machining/welding/electronics-testing
>>>>>>devices any more and they'll just have to improvise somehow...

>>>>>What's your problem?  Just put "check-names master ignore" in the
>>>>>options section and you'll be all set.

>>>>My only point is that a default setting of "fail" would be rather
>>>>Internet-biased and misguided.

>>>Another point in favor of that default is that it's a safer setting.  If
>>>you're connecting to the Internet and don't have things configured in
>>>the standard way, you can cause problems for others.  So it's best to
>>>have the defaults correct for the interoperation cases.

>>>If the default doesn't match your needs for private use, they only
>>>inconvenience you, not anyone else.

>>I can sort of see that point, Barry, but as I've already asserted in
>>this thread, it's usually large organizations that host DNS,
>>organizations that can be expected to have hardened processes that
>>prevent interoperability-causing data to be loaded into any nameserver
>>at all. So for that small category, a conservative check-names seems
>>rather superfluous. I would also point out that such large organizations
>>have an *incentive* to be as interoperable as possible, since more
>>interoperability means more visitors to the site(s), more interest in
>>the products, more sales, more revenue, etc. So if underscores cause
>>interoperability problems -- and I still remain rather skeptical about
>>that assertion -- then those orgs are going to crack down on
>>underscores, and if they have any brains at all, they'll stop the
>>underscores in a way that doesn't involve bringing down the whole zone
>>(which is basically the blunt-instrument approach that "check-names
>>fail" takes).

>>                                       - Kevin

>I don't see why underscores should be used AT ALL, there have been
>at various times problems, it _is_ against RFC. Why use something
>that _might_ impare when other characters are available ??

Aesthetically, I don't particularly like underscores either, but lots of
folks do, and don't give a rat's ass about purely-theoretical
interoperability issues. And as long as the (internal or external)
customer is paying the bills, how am I, or any DNS admin, in a position
to say "no"?

                                                   - Kevin


 
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