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From: Charles Monteiro <char...@monteirosfusion.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:11:47 -0500
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actually then let me rephrase that just like MongoDB has "ruby bindings"
does MagLev have a Ruby binding or is it that MagLev is basically another
Ruby vm i.e. just like MRI , Rubinus, JRuby ?

does MagLev have a pre-built restful api available ?

if MagLev is another Ruby implementation to what MRI version is it
currently compatible ?

thanks

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Michael Latta <mla...@technomage.com>wrote:

> If you mean by "talk to JRuby" can there be a JRuby VM sending HTTP or
> other requests to a MagLev VM, sure.  If you mean use a JRuby VM and have
> MagLev somehow run within that VM, then no.  MagLev is a VM and a database
> in one, they are not separable.  But, you could treat MagLev as just a
> database and put a simple json API on top of your object model and use
> services from another "front end" VM that runs the Rails stack.  It would
> sort of be a waste but it would work.  If there are specific java libraries
> you want access to it might make sense, but I would probably go the other
> way, and put the JRuby and java libraries in a support role to Rails
> running in MagLev.
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Charles A. Monteiro wrote:
>
> > so we have started using MongoDB from Ruby here at our shop. I want to
> > be able to push MagLev as an alternative. I have tried using the
> > following points:
> >
> > 1. MagLev is based on Gemstone/S which has proven to be a very
> > scaleable time tested solution and which has been deployed by some
> > giants in industry, I drop names like JP , OOCL, NYK , there are more
> > but those come to mind in the heat of argument.
> > 2. MagLev can handle a complex object model , document based dbs fall
> > don't deal with that very well.
> >
> > Where I stumble is in issues such:
> >
> > 1. MongoDB , CouchDB and Cassandra apparently can handle a very heavy
> > rate of inserts per sec. I'm don't have stats for MagLev.
> > 2. Community/Support , these other have decent communities behind it,
> > can't claim the same about MagLev and I'm confused by VmWare's
> > specific long term commitment to MagLev.
> > 3. The documents on the site i.e. cookbook recipes are not quite
> > there, not sufficient. I need to walk folks here thru for example
> > Sinatra type of flow with MagLev persisting things.
> > 4. Lack of Windows support is an issue although not a "great" issue
> > 5. Question , is there any reason why I could not talk to MagLev from
> > JRuby ?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > -Charles
> >
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actually then let me rephrase that just like MongoDB has &quot;ruby binding=
s&quot; does MagLev have a Ruby binding or is it that MagLev is basically a=
nother Ruby vm i.e. just like MRI , Rubinus, JRuby ?<div><br></div><div>

does MagLev have a pre-built restful api available ?</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>if MagLev is another Ruby implementation to what MRI version is it curre=
ntly compatible ?</div><div><br></div><div>thanks<br><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote">

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Michael Latta <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:mla...@technomage.com">mla...@technomage.com</a>&gt;</span> wro=
te:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

If you mean by &quot;talk to JRuby&quot; can there be a JRuby VM sending HT=
TP or other requests to a MagLev VM, sure. =A0If you mean use a JRuby VM an=
d have MagLev somehow run within that VM, then no. =A0MagLev is a VM and a =
database in one, they are not separable. =A0But, you could treat MagLev as =
just a database and put a simple json API on top of your object model and u=
se services from another &quot;front end&quot; VM that runs the Rails stack=
. =A0It would sort of be a waste but it would work. =A0If there are specifi=
c java libraries you want access to it might make sense, but I would probab=
ly go the other way, and put the JRuby and java libraries in a support role=
 to Rails running in MagLev.<br>


<br>
Michael<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On Jan 20, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Charles A. Monteiro wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; so we have started using MongoDB from Ruby here at our shop. I want to=
<br>
&gt; be able to push MagLev as an alternative. I have tried using the<br>
&gt; following points:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 1. MagLev is based on Gemstone/S which has proven to be a very<br>
&gt; scaleable time tested solution and which has been deployed by some<br>
&gt; giants in industry, I drop names like JP , OOCL, NYK , there are more<=
br>
&gt; but those come to mind in the heat of argument.<br>
&gt; 2. MagLev can handle a complex object model , document based dbs fall<=
br>
&gt; don&#39;t deal with that very well.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Where I stumble is in issues such:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 1. MongoDB , CouchDB and Cassandra apparently can handle a very heavy<=
br>
&gt; rate of inserts per sec. I&#39;m don&#39;t have stats for MagLev.<br>
&gt; 2. Community/Support , these other have decent communities behind it,<=
br>
&gt; can&#39;t claim the same about MagLev and I&#39;m confused by VmWare&#=
39;s<br>
&gt; specific long term commitment to MagLev.<br>
&gt; 3. The documents on the site i.e. cookbook recipes are not quite<br>
&gt; there, not sufficient. I need to walk folks here thru for example<br>
&gt; Sinatra type of flow with MagLev persisting things.<br>
&gt; 4. Lack of Windows support is an issue although not a &quot;great&quot=
; issue<br>
&gt; 5. Question , is there any reason why I could not talk to MagLev from<=
br>
&gt; JRuby ?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; thanks<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -Charles<br>
&gt;<br>
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