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Maglev is another Ruby VM, running on top for Smalltalk. Currently it
targets compatibility with 1.8.7


On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Charles Monteiro <
char...@monteirosfusion.com> wrote:

> actually then let me rephrase that just like MongoDB has "ruby bindings"
> does MagLev have a Ruby binding or is it that MagLev is basically another
> Ruby vm i.e. just like MRI , Rubinus, JRuby ?
>
> does MagLev have a pre-built restful api available ?
>
> if MagLev is another Ruby implementation to what MRI version is it
> currently compatible ?
>
> thanks
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Michael Latta <mla...@technomage.com>wrote:
>
>> If you mean by "talk to JRuby" can there be a JRuby VM sending HTTP or
>> other requests to a MagLev VM, sure.  If you mean use a JRuby VM and have
>> MagLev somehow run within that VM, then no.  MagLev is a VM and a database
>> in one, they are not separable.  But, you could treat MagLev as just a
>> database and put a simple json API on top of your object model and use
>> services from another "front end" VM that runs the Rails stack.  It would
>> sort of be a waste but it would work.  If there are specific java libraries
>> you want access to it might make sense, but I would probably go the other
>> way, and put the JRuby and java libraries in a support role to Rails
>> running in MagLev.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Charles A. Monteiro wrote:
>>
>> > so we have started using MongoDB from Ruby here at our shop. I want to
>> > be able to push MagLev as an alternative. I have tried using the
>> > following points:
>> >
>> > 1. MagLev is based on Gemstone/S which has proven to be a very
>> > scaleable time tested solution and which has been deployed by some
>> > giants in industry, I drop names like JP , OOCL, NYK , there are more
>> > but those come to mind in the heat of argument.
>> > 2. MagLev can handle a complex object model , document based dbs fall
>> > don't deal with that very well.
>> >
>> > Where I stumble is in issues such:
>> >
>> > 1. MongoDB , CouchDB and Cassandra apparently can handle a very heavy
>> > rate of inserts per sec. I'm don't have stats for MagLev.
>> > 2. Community/Support , these other have decent communities behind it,
>> > can't claim the same about MagLev and I'm confused by VmWare's
>> > specific long term commitment to MagLev.
>> > 3. The documents on the site i.e. cookbook recipes are not quite
>> > there, not sufficient. I need to walk folks here thru for example
>> > Sinatra type of flow with MagLev persisting things.
>> > 4. Lack of Windows support is an issue although not a "great" issue
>> > 5. Question , is there any reason why I could not talk to MagLev from
>> > JRuby ?
>> >
>> > thanks
>> >
>> > -Charles
>> >
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<div>Maglev is another Ruby VM, running on top for Smalltalk. Currently it =
targets compatibility with 1.8.7</div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On=
 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Charles Monteiro <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:char...@monteirosfusion.com">char...@monteirosfusion.com</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">actually then let me rephrase that just like=
 MongoDB has &quot;ruby bindings&quot; does MagLev have a Ruby binding or i=
s it that MagLev is basically another Ruby vm i.e. just like MRI , Rubinus,=
 JRuby ?<div>

<br></div><div>

does MagLev have a pre-built restful api available ?</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>if MagLev is another Ruby implementation to what MRI version is it curre=
ntly compatible ?</div><div><br></div><div>thanks<div><div class=3D"h5">

<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Michael Latta <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:mla...@technomage.com" target=3D"_blank">mla...@technomage.com<=
/a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



If you mean by &quot;talk to JRuby&quot; can there be a JRuby VM sending HT=
TP or other requests to a MagLev VM, sure. =C2=A0If you mean use a JRuby VM=
 and have MagLev somehow run within that VM, then no. =C2=A0MagLev is a VM =
and a database in one, they are not separable. =C2=A0But, you could treat M=
agLev as just a database and put a simple json API on top of your object mo=
del and use services from another &quot;front end&quot; VM that runs the Ra=
ils stack. =C2=A0It would sort of be a waste but it would work. =C2=A0If th=
ere are specific java libraries you want access to it might make sense, but=
 I would probably go the other way, and put the JRuby and java libraries in=
 a support role to Rails running in MagLev.<br>




<br>
Michael<br>
<div><div><br>
<br>
On Jan 20, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Charles A. Monteiro wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; so we have started using MongoDB from Ruby here at our shop. I want to=
<br>
&gt; be able to push MagLev as an alternative. I have tried using the<br>
&gt; following points:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 1. MagLev is based on Gemstone/S which has proven to be a very<br>
&gt; scaleable time tested solution and which has been deployed by some<br>
&gt; giants in industry, I drop names like JP , OOCL, NYK , there are more<=
br>
&gt; but those come to mind in the heat of argument.<br>
&gt; 2. MagLev can handle a complex object model , document based dbs fall<=
br>
&gt; don&#39;t deal with that very well.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Where I stumble is in issues such:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 1. MongoDB , CouchDB and Cassandra apparently can handle a very heavy<=
br>
&gt; rate of inserts per sec. I&#39;m don&#39;t have stats for MagLev.<br>
&gt; 2. Community/Support , these other have decent communities behind it,<=
br>
&gt; can&#39;t claim the same about MagLev and I&#39;m confused by VmWare&#=
39;s<br>
&gt; specific long term commitment to MagLev.<br>
&gt; 3. The documents on the site i.e. cookbook recipes are not quite<br>
&gt; there, not sufficient. I need to walk folks here thru for example<br>
&gt; Sinatra type of flow with MagLev persisting things.<br>
&gt; 4. Lack of Windows support is an issue although not a &quot;great&quot=
; issue<br>
&gt; 5. Question , is there any reason why I could not talk to MagLev from<=
br>
&gt; JRuby ?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; thanks<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -Charles<br>
&gt;<br>
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