RE: [Voice Of Nepal] Re: He bhagwan yeh 'Monk ?' ko kya hogaya hai? See proof of Hillman is Muslim/ His friend sent me personal mail and asked to stop Hindu non sense

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This is really absurd…How is Hinduism any different than Buddhism?  Don’t try to separate these two “man made” religions.  The only truth is Ved Dharma.  We are all proud Hindus as well as Buddhists.  Nepal is the birthplace of peace pioneer Lord Buddha and Lord Sita. Not to mention, it’s the residence of Lord Shiva.

 

Separating Hinduism from Buddhism, especially in context of Nepal, shows a higher degree of ignorance.

A person associated with Nepal Council Of World Affairs and a practicing Buddhist should not refer Hindusim as “non-sense”.  The noble eight folds path doesn’t teach this.  It’s unfortunate to witness it here.

Mr. Tamla Ukyab
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Email: hima...@mail.com.np

 

Himalayan Intercontinental P. Ltd. T. U. Road, Balkhu Fax: 977-1-4271979 Tel: 4279852, 4271979 E-mail: hima...@mail.com.np

 

Hillman:

Next time you reply, do it with your real name.  People want to talk to humans not UFOs. Besides, if you argue and are confident about your position, you definitely need to credited. Washington DC Today is quite deceiving.

 

I would suggest everyone to stop this discussion.  Please do NOT hit the reply or reply all buttons.

 

 

Sincerely,

 

Ashutosh Shrivastav

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United Nationalist Nepalese (UNN)

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Subject: [Voice Of Nepal] Re: He bhagwan yeh 'Monk ?' ko kya hogaya hai? See proof of Hillman is Muslim/ His friend sent me personal mail and asked to stop Hindu non sense

 

Hello Monk Revol,

What are you talking about ? Without knowing anything you write or blame others with whatever words or phrases that come in your mind ? This is absurd - no good at all.

Tamla Ukyab and Pasang Eden Ukyab are NOT MUSLIMS  - got it. They practise Buddhism and live in Kathmandu.

He bhagwan yeh 'Monk ?' ko kya hogaya hai.

Thanks,

Hillman

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:13 PM, monk revol <revoluti...@gmail.com> wrote:


 

See friends one more Muslim has sent me this e-mail and asked me to stop Hindu nonsense....


On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Tamla Ukyab and Pasang Eden Ukyab <hima...@mail.com.np> wrote:

 

Pls unsubscribe all these Hindu nonsenses.

Thank you

 

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Hillman 2C [Washington DC, Today] <hill...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Yogi Hemant Panchpor,

Pranam and thank you for the message below. I respectfully differ from you and again write please read Mod Nath's Devasur Sangram. Then Nepal Government had banned this bookuntil 1990 ! The Vedic Society was a primitive, so Vedic Dharma was also primitive.

And please copy your messages to others also so that others have chance to read your views.

Thank you and pranam again

Hill Man

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:18 PM, HEMANT PANCHPOR <hemantp...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Hill Man:

 

Can you use telephone invented by a Canadian in 19th century?  I don't think so.  Similarly, we cannot use the 'contents of old book' as it is in the present condition.  I have a 13th century Dattatray Pothi (collections of stories based on revelations of incarnation of Dattatray referring to Vedas and Puranas).  The daily routine of Brahmin as told by Ved Vyas is impossible to follow.  For example, as I remember, if a man uninates while standing, he will go to hell for the number of years equal to the number of hairs on his body.  The laws written were applicable to the time frame when they were written.  If people don't understand it, it is their ignorance.

 

Though I cannot talk about Nepal as I have visited it only once though I belong to the same Ved Dharm.  Similarly, Michael Witzel has no right to talk about the issue without understanding the basic knowledge of the problem.  Rana has his views based on his own experience in his life.  You cannot generalize his experience as Nepal's condition.  For example, if in my neighbourhood in Toronto, there are many drug dealers and prostitutes, can I say, there is problem of drug and prostitutes in Canada.  It is entirely wrong.

 

India has changed a lot has been changed in last century.  Many scholars visited the West, and made a lot of social changes.  That is why India is leading today.  In Nepal, the movement of democracy started in 1990, so you need to give them time to change.  Though I do not agree with some Indian people like Raja Ram Mohan Roy, who stopped the procedure of Sati in India, did not live long in India but died in London.  If he calls hmself 'social reformist' as mentioned in 'history', what the hell he is doing in London instead of India?  Such hypocrites have destroyed the Ved Dharm culture though they come from India.  The concept behind Sati was totally different.  A woman in Vedic times was not sleeping around like here in North America.  She was loyal to her husband to such an extent that after his death, she wanted to sacrifice life voluntarily.  Of course, if she had kids, it was forbidden to go for Sati.  But Muslims in 700 AD and Britisher, Portugese, French all invaded India, and destroyed the sanctity of Dharm.  That is the reason why people are cheating,lieing, playing power games etc.  These are the gifts of invaders.

 

Still people from India, Nepal and other places where Ved Dharm was practiced are innocent.  Everybody took advantage of their innocence, calling themselves 'smart'.  Ved Dharm does not such evil people 'smart' or Pandit.  The spiritiual knowlege of the East is very difficult for 'opportunist' West to understand.

 

What I am trying to say that we must reinstate 'four pillars' of Ved Dharm as an essential components of life?  It has nothing to do with exploitation of some people by some other people.  Don't you agree that in North America also, there is a great deal of exploitation?  Discrimination is seen everywhere, and that is the reason why 'Human Rights Commissions' needed to be established. thoough I have my own doubt about 'justice' in North America.  I am sure, many will agree with me.

 

So, Mr.Hillman, before you clean somebody's house, look into your house first, and clean it.  YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO CRITICISE IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW AND SET AN EXAMPLE BY YOUR OWN ACTION.  PLEASE STOP THIS MESSING AROUND WITH OTHER COUNTRIES.  NORTH AMERICA NEEDS TO FIX MANY SOCIAL, ECONOMICAL, LEGAL, AND OTHER PROBLEMS.  Why Bush sent people in Afghanistan is not to get 'social justice' to people but 'get advantage of being superpower'.  The West has played this game since Britishers ruled the world from 19th century with deception and lies.

 

Come one, don''t be another hypocrite.  Nobody cares for Price Charles and Camilla in Canada now, because their days have gone.  We are in 21st century, right!

Yogi Hemant Panchpor alias Aadeshnath
416-653-8125
http://filedby.com/author/AADESHNATH/2896575/  
http://www.youtube.com/user/Aadeshnath

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Hillman 2C [Washington DC, Today] <hill...@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Hillman 2C [Washington DC, Today] <hill...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Please do not waste time ----------------'Devasur Sangram' by Mod Nath Prashrit 1988 [3rd Edition]
To: "Misras" <mis...@ntc.net.np>
Cc: "monk revol" <revoluti...@gmail.com>, "HEMANT PANCHPOR" <hemantp...@yahoo.com>, "Md Nouman" <nouma...@gmail.com>, "Dhawal Surkheti" <dhawals...@yahoo.com>, "Rana 1616" <rana...@yahoo.com>, "Ashutosh Shrivastav" <ashutosh.x...@unnepal.org>, aimsa...@gmail.com, aimsafo...@googlegroups.com, "Tilak Shrestha" <til...@hotmail.com>, "Bal Krishna Mabuhang" <hangm...@yahoo.com>
Received: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 1:53 PM

Hello Misrasji,

Are talking of Plato ? His is different. But the Manu Maharaj [Manusmriti] bans all Shudras[sic] from reading Vedas, owning  property or saving money or wealth.

Manu also declares all properties owned by Shudras[sic] ultimately belongs to Brahmins [ Manusmriiti verses:
1-100 . 8-276 and 10-129]. My god.....

Those who talk of such kind of Caste System as 'assest of Hinduism' are not doing any justice to the mindkind. They are spreading false belief.

I think Mod Nath Prasrit is a Sanskrit Scholar, is an Acharya.

And, brain is to train. Only equal opportunity required.

Thanks,

Hillman 2c

 

 

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Misras <mis...@ntc.net.np> wrote:

 

 

It is true that all societies every where and at all times are divided along those: 

 

1. Who use their brains ( intellectual work )

2. Who work as executives and warriors,

3. Who engage in business and trade

4. Who provide labour

 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:05 PM

Subject: Please do not waste time ----------------'Devasur Sangram' by Mod Nath Prashrit 1988 [3rd Edition]

 

Hi Hillman

 

No Issues,caste system is natural phenomena in any culture,nation etc which no one can deny.I am not talking about today's caste system.It is not by birth.

 

All references which you have given are false as Michael Witzel lacks sanskrit knoweldge and experience and  is no indologist and David Frawley is indologist.Moreover I gave you archaelogical findings information which no one can deny.

 

Mod Nath Prashrit  is also wrong and lacks actual sanskrit understanding so he cannot be quoted.

We are not here to make you agree on what we belive and please do not waste my time by sending personal e-mails asking about Hindusim.

 

Your attitude gives us the feeling that you are Muslim as only they are good in doing all this kind of activity.

 

 

Vande Matram

 

 

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Hillman 2C [Washington DC, Today] <hill...@gmail.com> wrote:

David Frawley's works are not taken seriously.

Ofcourse yes, Rig Veda was written some 3 thousand years ago [carbon dating].  Steve Farmer http://www.safarmer.com/; Michael Witzel http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/mwpage.htm ; FRITS STAAL http://sites.google.com/site/fritsstaal/and other's works are relevant in this context.

In the 21st century, if we talk of Brahman, Chhetriya, Vaisya and Shudra, then we are going nowhere at all. 

'Devasur Sangram' by Mod Nath Prashrit 1988 [3rd Edition] also gives a clear idea of Vedic Society and culture.

I sincerely differ from what you have written below in different colours and  am not interested in discussing any further.

Thanks,

Hill Man 2c.


 

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:37 AM, monk revol <revoluti...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Hillman

 

Thanks for asking intellectual question and we would love to give you reply on this.Your Question in Blue and my reply in Yellow

 

Was there any caste system in Vedic Society

First it is very important to define catse system.The one which prevails today is not caste system it is called Race system.Caste System is defined like this.

 

Any person preaching about GOD is Brahmin and he lives life of monk,he does not take money and live on mercy and food plus help provided by people.His only duty is to teach and preach Human about GOD and that GOD is one and he loves all and we all are one.This person is called Brahmin.

 

Person whose responsibility is to fight for country and protect its border is called kshatriya.His responsibility is to protect people and nation against evil.

 

Person who is involved in economic development of nation and people by doing trade is called Vaishya.

 

If some one is not able to do any of the above then he is called shudra but in order for him to survive he serves the above three.Like he provides water to soldiers in war.Helps Trader in loading truck etc.Is called Shudra.

 

Out of all the above anyone can move from Brahmin to kshatriya and from kshatriya to Vaishya to Shudra.Based on qualification not based on Birth.

 

This was created by GOD as natural segregation of society and till date you can see world and all countries fall into these and will always fall in these four sections,Yes this is in Vedas.

 

How was the Vedic Society some 3 thousand years ago ? Obviously, it was primitive in all respects

 

Vedic society is not 3000Yrs Old it is more then 1 million Year Old and Earth has changed it shape in that duration.Hindu calculation ids divided into Youga i.e time Span and Kal You started 3500Yrs back when Lord Krishna was their after his death Kal Yug started.Vedas itself are eternal they were recited Orally and afterwards written in sanskrit.UNESCO recognize Vedas.

 

 

It was not advanced like the age of ours when scients, having found water, are thinking of doing something special in the Moon

Mordern scientist says that we might have alines or more advanced society 2000Light Years from here.Then why they don't want to believe that on earth also it is possible to have Advanced society.Just by making Machines and Mordern instrument we do not become advanced.See crop in US all is processed food of GMO and so many diseases because of it .On the other hand ancient society used to have organic food and they used to do Meditation and lot of other advanced internal techniques for betterment of human race and body.Most of the modern History is already proved wrong as it was done by britishers,please read books of David Frawley and E.PockcoK.We have seen that Charles Darwin theory itself is wrong and till date weused to consider it right.In Market you can find so many Cough Syrup but all suppresant none of them cures on other hand ancient society used to have solution to medical problems they used to remove it from root.This is big topic of discussion.

You want to keep the Caste System and now  look what is the plight of Sudras of India and Nepal even today

 

We want to remove the caste system what is present today as it was formed by bristishers but you cannot take out the caste system explained in the first point that is natural segregation of society.

 

How has Manu and his followers suppressed the disadvantaged group - the Sudras ? What is your thought about it ?

 

Manu never taught to suppress Shudras it was done by britishers.If you read Manus Book called Manusmriti no where he says suppress them.This is false ,moreover Manu is nothing but NOAH of Bible and Jewish scriptures.Manu and NOAH are our true fathers and great people the originator of human being.

 

 

Can anyone enlighten me if Krishna  really was born in Mathura and Geeta is what he told Arjun during the Mahabharat War ?

Yes it is true and Ramayan and Gita are historical books of Hindu religion.They teach love,peace and Dharm.

Can these myths be proven by any archaelogical evidence or findings ?

Please find the proofs of Lost City of Krishna from Americans.Book By David Frawley (Christian)

 

 

 

 

 

 

NASA Find Ramas Bridge

 

 

Thanks


 

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Hillman 2C [Washington DC, Today] <hill...@gmail.com> wrote:

I actually don't have time to discuss this issue.

No idea what your 'Ved Dharma' is all about ? I think you are also talking of Rig Veda, aren't you ? Was there any caste system in Vedic Society ? How was the Vedic Society some 3 thousand years ago ? Obviously, it was primitive in all respects.

It was not advanced like the age of ours when scients, having found water, are thinking of doing something special in the Moon ?

You want to keep the Caste System and now  look what is the plight of Sudras of India and Nepal even today ?

How has Manu and his followers suppressed the disadvantaged group - the Sudras ? What is your thought about it ?

Can anyone enlighten me if Krishna  really was born in Mathura and Geeta is what he told Arjun during the Mahabharat War ?

Can these myths be proven by any archaelogical evidence or findings ?

Myths are manufactured by a clever minds.

 

[And all religions and cultures are good and great for those who practise them.]

Thanks,

And have agreat day.

Hill Man

 

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:13 PM, HEMANT PANCHPOR <hemantp...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Hillman (I am sorry, I don't know your 'real name'):

 

I strongly agree with Revolutionary Monk(I am sorry, I don't know your real name too).  Though the language he has used is coming out of frustration due to hundreds of years of oppression by colonialists.  I know many Caucasians have suffered due to colonialists.

 

I will invite your attention to caste system as per Bhagwad Geeta, the most revered holy book considered by Hindus or rather Ved Dharmiyas (those who believe in Ved Dharm).  By the way, you will agree with me that Ved Dharm is oldest living Dharm (Righteous Way of Living), but NOT so-called RELIGION.  Religions are made by human being, as per my knowledge, for control of power.  You may agree that many Caucasians are revisiting to Ved Dharm in present time for this reason.

 

Bhagwad Geeta, Ch.18, v.41,42,43,and 44.

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I am sorry for blurr image, but you can visit website for more information. Here the original verses are in Sanskrit, and everybody has translated it in English as per his ability, knowledge of Sankrit and English, and his own context that may differ from the original context in which Krishna told His Truth to Arjun. Paricharya in Sankrit is translated as SERVICE in English in v.44 includes all in the society (not just upper three varnas as per actual Sankrit verse). Swabhavi in Sankrit is translated as NATURE in English in all verses, but Swabhav means person's natural attitutde (swa is self, and bhav is faith or attitude). Please understand that Sankrit is very rich language that have more than one meaning in English, and that is the reason there are confusions in translations. For all purpose, original Sankrit verse is more authentic and English translations.

Revolutionary Monk has messed up with Islam regarding 'Fatwa'. I want to make it clear that even in Bhagwad Geeta, Krishna makes it clear to Arjun that he can do what he wants upon listening to His message in Bhagwad Geeta in Ch.18,v.63.

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INVASION THEORIES ARE INVENTED BY COLONIALISTS FOR THEIR CONVENIENCE TO RULE THE PEOPLE, AND DOES NOT HOLD WATER. If you know the mentality of colonialists, you will understand what I mean. I have studied Quran, Bible and Bhagwad Geeta before I published my first book 'Journey to Infinity' (http://filedby.com/author/AADESHNATH/2896575/ ). My opinion about these holy books based on tone of the language used by Orators is that Quran orders, Bible instructs or suggests and Bhagwad Geeta informs. I am ready to discuss this matter at any length based on my study with anyone.

 

Dear Nouman Mani alias Md Nouman Siddique
"HAR DIL AZIZ SAF DIL NOUMAN"

I am sorry to say that your study of Quran is inadequate, and you need to study Quran to understand what it says. Here I give only a few verses from Quran that will clear your doubts in your mind. http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/does_islam_breed_violence.html

 

Here you go.

Quran 9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's cause; they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."

8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."

8:65 "O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding."

9:38 "Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah's Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place."

47:4 "When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah's Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam."

Quran 61:2 "O Muslims, why say one thing and do another? Grievously odious and hateful is it in the sight of Allah that you say that which you do not. Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in a battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure."

I hope, you may have cleared your doubts based on 'ignorance', and you will better return to your original Dharm, Ved Dharm.

 

Dear Revolutionary Monk:

I will suggest you to do homework before you talk on 'world forum' with 'ignorance'.

If anybody has doubts, please do not hesitate to contact me.

I am sorry if someone gets this email unnecessarily, but I want to tell the people on the discussion that 'you are on world forums' and your 'ignorance' cannot be taken as 'compassionate ground'. YOU MUST TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR WORDS. However, I want to emphasize that the organizations like AIMSA must know that they have no right to talk based on 'ignorance'.

I ASK AIMSA to stay away from such discussions if they are more interested in 'making business' as I can see from your website http://www.aimsanepal.org/.

 

Let's go from 'Ignorance' to 'Knowledge'.

I ALSO REQUEST YOU ALL NOT TO SEND COPIES TO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT INTERESTED IN SUCH DISCUSSIONS AND HAVE OPTED OUT.

Yogi Hemant Panchpor alias Aadeshnath
416-653-8125 Toronto, Canada
http://filedby.com/author/AADESHNATH/2896575/  
http://www.youtube.com/user/Aadeshnath  


--- On Tue, 11/17/09, monk revol <revoluti...@gmail.com> wrote:


From: monk revol <revoluti...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] Re: LO ! A 'MONK' ISSUES - A FATWA ?!? Last Warning to Md Nouman Siddique
To: "Hillman 2C [Washington DC, Today]" <hill...@gmail.com>
Cc: "Md Nouman" <nouma...@gmail.com>, "HEMANT PANCHPOR" <hemantp...@yahoo.com>
Received: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 12:46 PM

Hi Himman

 

Do you know what is caste syste,

 

People who preach about GOD is brahmins,those who fight are kshatriyas and those who do Business are vashyas,those who are not capable of any of the three are Shudras and any society is divided into these four.Muslims,Hindus,Christians all are divided into these.

 

Welll talking regarding

"Aryan Invasion Theory' and The Indus Civilization

I might be one of the author of these books.....Their is nothing like Aryan Invasion of India.Aryans were original inhabitant of India and Indus Valley is one of the oldest civilization with scientist already discovering Lost saraswati rivers.

 

Do let me know if you want to know anything about Hinduism or any other religion.

 

If anyone call you TERRORIST how will you reply...I did the same and I call people who support such people same and same solution for them also.

 

Vande Matram

 

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Hillman 2C [Washington DC, Today] <hill...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello !

You say you are a monk but you are spitting fire ! You can't have peace and love when you spit fire ! 

You praise caste system and tell others you would answer with your 'tip of sword'. This is all nonesense.

The problem is caste system,got it ? To talk of Hindu and Hindusim you would have time to read "Aryan Invasion Theory' and The Indus Civilization etc and etc.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:10 AM, monk revol <revoluti...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Friends

 

This is not a Fatwa.When he calls us Terrorist no one replies but when we tell him something then you all Hindus send these kind of e-mail against your own people.I promise that I will never correspond with you all and I am taking my name myself out of this Discussion.

 

This is the plight of Hindus,they are never united.They have never learned in last 1000Yrs.

 

May GOD bless NEPAL and India and  I apologize to all for supporting you.

 

Vande Matram

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:36 AM, AIMSA <aimsa...@gmail.com> wrote:

This is Last Waring to everyone don't try to Discuss further in this topic AIMSA is not for any religious talk so stop discussing.
 



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2009/11/17 Md Nouman <nouma...@gmail.com>

 

Then why this line



 ISLAM and Christianity do not preach peace and love it is clearly written in Quran and Bible,kill the people of  other beliefs.


 Take weapons and fight against Christians and Muslims who are not peace loving as this is what Hindusim preaches.

My dear friend Quran doesn't teach to kill innocent people. All the religion teach love and peace. Islam is the religion who only talks about love and peace. Islam has been driven in the wrong way by the some of the mullah who doesn’t know anything about Islam. He has not in deeper knowledge about Islam.

Don't listen to those MULLAH who talk nonsense, they are not well educated then don't even know Islam properly.

Muhammad Saheb never taught us to kill innocent people; he always wanted love and peace only. Islam also teach be the nationalist first then Muslim.

Whoever given the challenge itz bullshit only and I am not against to India I love India as I love Nepal.

I didn’t say that I want free education. I never used any bad language; I am just giving your reply in your word.

Whoever spreading terror in the name of Jihad, they are not doing Jihad, they are doing business in the name of Islam or Allah and this is not acceptable in the Islam.

Don’t talk against to any religion then I’ll come and join you for the peace and love work





On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Dhawal Surkheti <dhawals...@yahoo.com> wrote:

LO ! A 'MONK' ISSUES  WARNING AGAINST SOMEONE - A FATWA ?

WHAT THE HECK IS THIS ? STOP IT PLEASE ?

 


From: monk revol <revoluti...@gmail.com>
To: Md Nouman <nouma...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Mon, November 16, 2009 9:52:18 AM
Subject: Last Warning to Md Nouman Siddique

Hi Mr Siddqui

 

We are here for all Hindus,all muslims who follow love and peace and all religions who want to live in Love and peace.

 

But we are against all how want hate and cruelty and kill people.Now I will reply to each point in your e-mail.Your Points in Blue and Mine in Yellow

 

Who is this monk revol (HEMANT PANCHPOR)?

 

We are true Human and we belive on following points

 

* God is one and people call it by different name.

* We consider Nepal India as same as in History they were same.Nepal has complete right to rule itself and we agree that India should not interfere in internal polityics of Nepal.

* We worship all great peopl who have taught love and peace like Buddha,Jesus,Mahavir,Lord Krishna,Rama,Shiva etc but we are aginst any GOD or Prophet who teaches cruely and killing innocent people.

* We are with all Hindus ,Muslims,Christians etc who have faith on Love and peace and brotherhood.

 

 

But we have only one answer to people who are against above belief system and that is TIP of SWORD

 

 

Mr, you are not different with other terrorists group. They are spreading terror with guns and bullets and you are spreading terror with your word and online postings. You are the bigger terrorists than others.

 

We are not doing that we are telling truth and it is not against Muslims and we have not created any internet blog or wesbite,they are already there.We have nothing in them from our side.If you feel that the wesbite is worng then please challenge them,they claim award of 50000USD and many Muslims have failed in open Inetrnet challenge.

 

 

Stop doing this nonsense. We are here to talk about Nepal and Nepali not for India and India’s problem

Please take your name out of this group if you do not want to discuss.Problems of India and Nepal are same.You can Discuss with Mr Hemant.

 

We are staying in India for study and for the work and for that we are paying tax also. India doesn’t provide anything free of cost..

 

I am sure you are not a beggar and india even Indians have to pay money for study.If you want free education please go to some village and join some ekal vidalya.

 

 think your future plan is to become politician, am I right? Dear I would like to suggest you, wash your mind first

 

No we do not have any plan of becoming future politician.Thanks for your advice of washing our mind..Your Language shows that you are already brain washed like others.

 

Will appreciate that we do not use such language and words in this group as I promise if we continue such language against Mr Hemant  or other peopel it will be disastrous for you.Be Nice and humble..

 

Vande Matram

 

 

 

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Md Nouman <nouma...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,

   Who is this monk revol (HEMANT PANCHPOR)?

Mr, you are not different with other terrorists group. They are spreading terror with guns and bullets and you are spreading terror with your word and online postings. You are the bigger terrorists than others.

Stop doing this nonsense. We are here to talk about Nepal and Nepali not for India and India’s problem.

We are staying in India for study and for the work and for that we are paying tax also. India doesn’t provide anything free of cost.

I think your future plan is to become politician, am I right? Dear I would like to suggest you, wash your mind first.

 

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Dhawal Surkheti <dhawals...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello All,

Busy  thesedays !  I rarely have a chance to read all emails that I receive. So I think I must be out of the list, shouldn't I ?

Kindly help me out of the list, would you ?

Thank you all,

Dhawal


From: monk revol <revoluti...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009 10:34:26 AM
Subject: Stop all this discussion---Ashutosh Ji

Hi Friends

Please stop all these discussions and remember.

* We have to Unite Hindus.
* Caste system is biggest asset to Hinduism.
* India is body and Hindusim is soul and both are in danger.
* ISLAM and Christianity do not preach peace and love it is clearly written in Quran and Bible,kill the people of other beliefs.
* Take weapons and fight against Christians and Muslims who are not peace loving as this is what Hindusim preaches.

If you cannot do any one of the above please change your religion and get our of India.


It is our responsibility to give the right meaning to people that what is caste,tell them difference between catse and race and get the evil  things out of Hindu society.

Hemant Ji please do not waste energy on people who are ignorant like Ashutosh.It is not their mistake as they have not read scriptures and History of India as well as world.Let them live in peace.Let them live in fools paradise of Lord Macaulay.

Vande Matram

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Rana 1616 <rana...@yahoo.com> wrote:

?!?

UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE

 


From: Ashutosh Shrivastav <ashutosh.x...@unnepal.org>
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Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 2:51:54 PM
Subject: (Nepal) Muslim minister beats up Hindu officer mercilessly - for not sending a new car to pick her up from the airport.

Rana Ji:

 

I applause your ignorance for tactically separating Dharma and Nepal.  You are trying to separate Nepal from religion.  You are forgetting that the very foundation of Nepal is religion.  Nepal is a pilgrimage for World Sanatan/Vedic Dharma believers.  It is said that a Hindu/Buddhist must have to visit Nepal once in their lifetime to attain Moksha.  Only people from Nepal don’t have right to talk about Nepal’s issues.  Every Ved Dharma follower has equal right to visit his pilgrimage no matter where he is.  As a Nepali, I always urge the Indians (especially Congress) to stay away from Nepal’s internal issues.  However, when it comes to Hinduism/Buddhism, they have every right to poke their nose.  And equally is true for Nepalese—We have every right to poke our nose if the issue is related to Hinduism in India.  We have every right to visit ALL pilgrimages in India.

 

I wonder how you would even imagine separating Nepal from religion.  If you would have so much concern about Nepal, why don’t you dare to come with your real name?  What have you done for Nepal?  What are your actions?  If you can’t do anything good, at least mind your own business and don’t support terrorism.

 

I know what you all fear—the fear that people are awakening; people are becoming conscious; the Global Ved Dharma is uniting, UNN is rising with 100s of Sanatan Dharmic organizations backing it.

Hemant Ji:

I want you to bring the issue of religious freedom based on referendum and the issue of Monarchy when you talk to the PM, RSS, Thackery and others at your next meeting.  Also, in order to maintain peace and not the internal enemy destroy this Vedic land, I suggest you to mobilize RSS in India.  You cannot trust your Congress government.  If they get an opportunity, they will sell Bharat to Italy.

Sincerely,

Ashutosh Shrivastav

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Whenever there is a decline of Dharma or the righteousness and the rise of Adharma or the un­righteousness then I incarnate Myself, O Arjun. I incarnate in every age for the protection of the good, for the destruction of the wicked, and for the establishment of Dharma. (Bhagvad Geeta 4.07-08)"

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From: monk revol [mailto:revoluti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 12:26 PM
To: HEMANT PANCHPOR; aimsa...@gmail.com; aimsafo...@googlegroups.com; nouma...@gmail.com; Rana 1616; Ashutosh Shrivastav; Tilak Shrestha
Subject: Three websites for attaining Moksha------Salvation of soul

 

 


http://www.faithfreedom.org/------50000USD awarded if some one can prove that Mr Muhammad is prophet .

 On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:20 PM, HEMANT PANCHPOR <hemantp...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Nouman, Sujit and others:

 

Why are you showing your 'ignorance' by not accepting the truth because you don't know?  Why are you spreading 'ignorance' in place of 'knowledge'?  You cannot seperate 'society' from 'Dharm' not 'religion' of new age,  If you know, Dharm, Arth, Kam and Moksh are four Purusharth of human being as per Ved Dharm.  Dharm comes first before Arth(money), Kam(expectations and wishes) and of course, Moksh(relieving from rebirth cycle).

 

Ashutosh has been working tirelessly for the cause of 'Dharm'.  You must support such a sincere and selfless worker, if you yourself cannot do that.

 

For your reference about knowledge on Islam, please visit following websites.

You have gone far away from Ved Dharm, and you must retrain yourself to go back to the truth if you want to continue on the path of Hindu or Ved Dharm.

 

Jai Ved Dharm!

Yogi Hemant Panchpor alias Aadeshnath
416-653-8125 Toronto, Canada
http://filedby.com/author/AADESHNATH/2896575/  
http://www.youtube.com/user/Aadeshnath

--- On Fri, 11/13/09, Rana 1616 <rana...@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Rana 1616 <rana...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] FW: (Nepal) Muslim minister beats up Hindu officer mercilessly - for not sending a new car to pick her up from the airport.
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Received: Friday, November 13, 2009, 9:22 AM


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Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 9:03:09 AM
Subject: Re: [AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] FW: (Nepal) Muslim minister beats up Hindu officer mercilessly - for not sending a new car to pick her up from the airport.


From: "AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"" <aimsa...@gmail.com>
To: aimsafo...@googlegroups.com
Cc: nepalde...@googlegroups.com; hindu...@googlegroups.com; hindudha...@googlegroups.com; hinduvoice@mtnl...net.in; hindu_m...@yahoo.co.in; hindu...@hinduunity.org; hindiUS...@yahoogroups.com; HEMANT PANCHPOR <hemantp...@yahoo.com>; RSS <rashtriya-swa...@googlegroups.com>; HSS Sandiego <hss_sa...@googlegroups.com>; rana...@yahoo.com; Misras <mis...@ntc.net.np>
Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 6:56:04 AM
Subject: Re: [AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] FW: (Nepal) Muslim minister beats up Hindu officer mercilessly - for not sending a new car to pick her up from the airport.

Dear Noumanji,
As you have rightly said that we are not here to discuss religious stuffs. we have issues related to Nepal to talk, thinking that we have already blocked Mr Ashutosh from posting any further message on religious stuffs.

Thanks & With kindest Regards,

All India Madhesi Student Association (AIMSA)
http://indiamadhesi.wordpress.com/
E-mail:- aimsa...@gmail.com

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Md Nouman <nouma...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,
   
 I would like to ask all of you lets think as an example if Islam teach terrorism then why don't we organize a conference worldwide and have discussion about it that terrorist is not a good for human being and why don't we convince Muslims to not do this.

This is to be done by spiritual guru but, I am very sorry to say this our spiritual GURUs are more selfish than terrorists. He has the same mindset which some of the persons has as a spiritual guru (don't misunderstand i didn't mean to hurt anyone).

As I can see some our friends have negative thoughts on Islam. If you talk about Quran it also doesn't say anywhere that kill non muslims or kaafirs.

Someone has point out about Islam and Quran that it does teach terrorism in the name of Jihad. Friends plz clear your mind and don't listen to those who are trying to be a leader in the name of Hinduism or spiritual guru. Islam doesn't teach terror, Islam only teach love and respect to others.

Some of our friends think, Islam or Muslams mean terrorist then i would like to ask them what about Hindu terrorists (as we can see lots of Hindus groups are coming for the terror in India).

Plz understand we are not terrorists.




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Thanks & With kindest Regards,

All India Madhesi Student Association (AIMSA)
http://indiamadhesi.wordpress.com
E-mail:- aimsa...@gmail.com


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       "Decide what you want, decide what you are willing to exchange for it. Establish your priorities and go to work."

 




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''A life without dreams is like a garden without flowers.''

       "Decide what you want, decide what you are willing to exchange for it. Establish your priorities and go to work."

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