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In the keyboard commander window, there is a popup menu to select which =
option key to use (left, right, or both). Select both and there you go. =
You get the usual warning that the option key will not work normally =
after doing this, but it works fine provided the keystroke you want =
involves one or more modifiers in addition to option. I is only =
keystrokes that are option-only which will be affected.
On Oct 24, 2012, at 10:32 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" =
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No, you're not odd at all. Hey, if it works for you, do it. It's =
whatever makes you feel most comfortable.
> =20
> Chris.
> =20
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Hall
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Automator, launch application
>=20
> Certainly. I'm probably odd in this way, but I like to use mainstream =
solutions whenever I can, even on the keyboard. I find myself using the =
ctrl-f3 command to go to my dock instead of vo-d, for instance, and I =
very much prefer setting up shotrcuts through the operating system if I =
can help it. I don't know why, but there it is.
> On Oct 24, 2012, at 9:52 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" =
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
>> Or, even better, still: in keyboard commander, or in numpad =
commander, provided you have one like I do.
>> =20
>> Chris.
>> =20
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Alex Hall
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 2:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: Automator, launch application
>>=20
>> Why not set one in keyboard shortcuts instead of making a service? If =
you really want a service, try restarting; that, plus upgrading to the =
latest ML release, did the trick when my own service experiment refused =
to trigger.
>> On Oct 24, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Traci <our4p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>> Hey, thanks for that tip. I liked the podcast, however it didn't =
fully help me. It was definitely a VO issue, or maybe a vo user issue. =
;)
>>>=20
>>> The happy news, is I have successfully created my service shortcut, =
but the shortcut doesn't seem to work anywhere. I can hit go-m, go to =
finder, then arrow down to services, and my launch messages shortcut is =
there. I can vo-space on it, and the app launches, but when I'm sitting =
on my desktop and hit my keyboard shortcut, the app doesn't launch.
>>>=20
>>> I'm going to try a different key combo and see it that remedies the =
problem.
>>>=20
>>> I'm just so tickled I created the automator task! Now lets see if I =
can make it 100% successful.
>>>=20
>>> Traci
>>> Sent by Macbook Air Mail
>>>=20
>>> On Oct 23, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Nicholas Parsons =
<mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>> There's a good podcast series called Mac Automation Made Simple by =
Ben W something. It's not from a VoiceOver perspective, but it should =
let you know what you can do and then you can figure out how to achieve =
the same outcomes with VoiceOver. If you're interested and =
have trouble finding it let me know and I'll give you more information =
or the link or something.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Nic
>>>>=20
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>>=20
>>=20
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
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> Have a great day,
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Diso-8859-1"><base href=3D"x-msg://157/"></head><body =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">In the keyboard commander =
window, there is a popup menu to select which option key to use (left, =
right, or both). Select both and there you go. You get the usual warning =
that the option key will not work normally after doing this, but it =
works fine provided the keystroke you want involves one or more =
modifiers in addition to option. I is only keystrokes that are =
option-only which will be affected.<br><div><div>On Oct 24, 2012, at =
10:32 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com">clgillan...@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space; "><div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">No, you're not =
odd at all. Hey, if it works for you, do it. It's whatever =
makes you feel most comfortable.</font></div><div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial"></font> </div><div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">Chris.</font></div><div> </div><blockquote =
style=3D"border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; =
border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; =
margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; "><div style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: =
normal; font-family: arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; =
background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial =
initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
title=3D"mehg...@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:mehg...@gmail.com">Alex =
Hall</a></div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: =
arial; "><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
title=3D"macvisionaries@googlegroups.com" =
href=3D"mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com">macvisionaries@googlegroup=
s.com</a></div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: =
arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, October 24, 2012 =
9:54 PM</div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: =
arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: Automator, launch =
application</div><div><br></div>Certainly. I'm probably odd in this way, =
but I like to use mainstream solutions whenever I can, even on the =
keyboard. I find myself using the ctrl-f3 command to go to my dock =
instead of vo-d, for instance, and I very much prefer setting up =
shotrcuts through the operating system if I can help it. I don't know =
why, but there it is.<br><div><div>On Oct 24, 2012, at 9:52 PM, =
"Christopher-Mark Gilland" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com">clgillan...@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" style=3D"widows: 2; =
text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: medium; =
line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; word-wrap: break-word; =
white-space: normal; orphans: 2; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; =
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
"><div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Or, even better, still: in =
keyboard commander, or in numpad commander, provided you have one like I =
do.</font></div><div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial"></font> </div><div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">Chris.</font></div><div> </div><blockquote =
style=3D"border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; =
border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; =
margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; "><div style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: =
normal; font-family: arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div =
style=3D"background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: =
normal; font-family: arial; "><b>From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
title=3D"mehg...@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:mehg...@gmail.com">Alex =
Hall</a></div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: =
arial; "><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
title=3D"macvisionaries@googlegroups.com" =
href=3D"mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com">macvisionaries@googlegroup=
s.com</a></div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: =
arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span =
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2:13 PM</div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: =
arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: Automator, launch =
application</div><div><br></div>Why not set one in keyboard shortcuts =
instead of making a service? If you really want a service, try =
restarting; that, plus upgrading to the latest ML release, did the trick =
when my own service experiment refused to trigger.<br><div><div>On Oct =
24, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Traci <<a =
href=3D"mailto:our4p...@gmail.com">our4p...@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hey, thanks for that =
tip. I liked the podcast, however it didn't fully help me. =
It was definitely a VO issue, or maybe a vo user issue. =
;)<div><br></div><div>The happy news, is I have successfully =
created my service shortcut, but the shortcut doesn't seem to work =
anywhere. I can hit go-m, go to finder, then arrow down to =
services, and my launch messages shortcut is there. I can vo-space =
on it, and the app launches, but when I'm sitting on my desktop and hit =
my keyboard shortcut, the app doesn't =
launch.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm going to try a different key combo =
and see it that remedies the problem.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm just =
so tickled I created the automator task! Now lets see if I can =
make it 100% successful.</div><div><br></div><div>Traci<br><div =
apple-content-edited=3D"true"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"widows: 2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; =
border-spacing: 0px; border-collapse: separate; font-style: normal; =
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text-indent: 0px; border-spacing: 0px; border-collapse: separate; =
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-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; "><div style=3D"word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space; ">Sent by Macbook Air =
Mail</div></span></span></div><br><div><div>On Oct 23, 2012, at 9:25 PM, =
Nicholas Parsons <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com">mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.co=
m</a>> wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Hi Tracy,<br>There's a good podcast series called Mac =
Automation Made Simple by Ben W something. It's not from a VoiceOver =
perspective, but it should let you know what you can do and then you can =
figure out how to achieve the same outcomes with<span =
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class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span> <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>VoiceOver. If you're =
interested and have trouble finding it let me know and I'll give you =
more information or the link or =
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