Mother says white star

[Lockadoc]

Mother says white star lost its Internet connection at 12:06

I am at space now
Anything I can do for it?
Bill S
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[Jeff Johnson]

I still say it would be nice if there was a list of things to do when this happens so its not such a mystery.   

[Christopher Cprek]

There is:

http://wiki.lvl1.org/Network

[Dan Bowen]

Thanks Bill! If you'd like to help, The two computers upstairs in the music loft are the ones that she is watching, just go up there and see if the ethernet router is still powered, and go up to the mission control area and make sure that one is powered too, and reboot the computer if needed.

[Jeff Johnson]

Cool.  Thanks, wasn't aware.

[crei...@sdf.lonestar.org]

I'm not a paying member, so I don't have access to the building unless
someone is going to be there. I want to get to the roof, or other
possible antenna sight, in order to be able to judge how much work is
going to be involved in setting up a mesh-net node there and what kind of
other sites could be considered for another node. I doubt that I could
see my own garage roof from there, but maybe. Anybody have a pair of
binoculars handy?

Creighton

[Christopher Cprek]

I can't be there tonight, but FYI you'll need a ladder to get on our roof.

Our neighboring building had it's roof redone with a rubber membrane
that can easily be damaged. Because of this, no one is allowed to use
the neighbor's roof to access our own roof. This is out of respect for
the neighbor, to avoid damaging his roof. We've had one situation in
the past because of using his roof without asking, and we don't want
another one. It's possible we can contact him for permission /
schedule a time to get up there in a monitored way...

...but basically what I'm saying is make sure you've got a ladder that
you can use to access the roof from the alleyway first.

Chris

[crei...@sdf.lonestar.org]

So there is no access to the roof from inside the space's building? I
don't own an extension ladder that tall, and don't think that I'd be
inclined to use it anyway.

Creighton

[Brad Luyster]

Not without judicious use of a sawzall, there isn't.

[John Hicks]

Or through one of the skylights...

[Brad Luyster]

Judicious use of a hammer, then.

[crei...@sdf.lonestar.org]

Some other time, then.

Creighton

> Judicious use of a hammer, then.
>
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:08 PM, John Hicks <john...@gulfbridge.com>
> wrote:
>

>> **

[Christopher Cprek]

Having a long ladder for direct roof access is the best option, but I
can still make arrangements with the neighbor to get access to the
roof if that's desired. I just need to know in advance when this will
happen, so I can contact him and make arrangements. It still requires
a short ladder to make the hop from the neighbor's roof to ours, but
we have that.

Contact me directly if this is something you're interested in.

Chris

[Jeff Johnson]

If plywood was put down over any place on the roof that was going to be stood on or hold a ladder, it should be okay, if the neighbor grants consent.

[James Copeland]

Would some kind of cantilevered platform be worth looking at hacking together with our building guy's permission? 

Sturdy L brackets into the masonry (if that will work on our instance) and a platform that could be stepped out onto without making any contact at all with the neighbors roof.... 

(Besides platform install and maintenance).  Not talking about something huge.. couple of boards wide.. (from our wall.).. with perhaps some stirrups/etc to secure a ladder base. 

[Jeff Johnson]

Or a ladder from the top of the stairs in the closed off alley way.  That thing must be pretty close to the top.

[Sean McPherson]

Not sure what type of parapet if any is on the roof but the best thing might be a non-permanent fixture so we don't have to deal w/ any issues about that. Either use a 'drape over' removable hook-top ladder to just stuff out the windw and hook to the roof on the odd time we need up there, or if there's nothing like that, install a set of permenently affixed mounted that a removable ladder can hook onto (this can be as simple as a set of vertical posts drilled and mounted to whatever parapet we can access right over the window). That way there's no issues w/ a permenent ladder (since we like to watch for code problems) plus it's not going to touch the neighboring buildings or any shared walls at all. I've used them for ladders on construction sites. http://www.hiloclimbers.com/parapet_clamps.html http://www.hiloclimbers.com/re_hooks.html We used pompier ladders in scouts during competitions so using one for a single level climb isn't a big deal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQKHc6xgk5o

 

Sean

[Jeff Johnson]

Actually, if we had the materials, an access point could be built with pressure treated lumber for a normal access to the roof from the closed off alley, provided we don't have individuals using it as a hangout space.  

[Jeff Johnson]

Note, the building owner does not want any holes drilled into the building.

[Sean McPherson]

If there's a sturdy parapet and we can't do the access from the stairs, an overhook ladder might be the best bet then. Still a bit more work than asking permission from neighbor and putting down a piece of wood and using an extension ladder, but not much more :D

[Jeff Johnson]

If we had unlimited resources, a nice option would be to build a small deck area (to level out the ground) just outside the grill area (alley).  If built with a covered roof (so people could grill out of the rain), the covered roof could serve as a location to put a ladder to get the remaining 10-12 feet to the roof when needed, since access would be near the back of the building where the roof is at the lowest point.

This wouldn't be a short term solution for Creighton tho.  What would be is to use my 23 foot extension ladder secured to the bed of a pickup truck (to give it another 3 feet).

[Sean McPherson]

Or we could build a catapult to launch people onto the roof! :)

[Christopher Cprek]

We don't get on the roof often enough to merit anything beyond a
ladder and/or catapult imho.

Chris

[Brad Luyster]

Hybrid balloon/rocket based elevator.

[Tim Miller]

your right, catapult and ladder just take so much effort,what we really need is a ballista

[Pat McCarthy]

Hmmmmm…..Hey guys, what did you do with my heavy rubber banding when you were done with the TV Demo Tape????

 

 

I has an “Idea”……

 

Patrick McCarthy

 

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[crei...@sdf.lonestar.org]

> We don't get on the roof often enough to merit anything beyond a
> ladder and/or catapult imho.
>
>

I've never paid attention to the roof, is it a standard flat roof with a
raised edge? I hate extension ladders, but if that's the only real
option, I'll do it. However, if the building owner doesn't want us to
attach anything to the building, then an attenna mount is also verboten,
so it's kinda irrelevent what the line of sight from the roof might be.
Is there a high window to hang a window-sill mount from?

Creighton

[Jeff Johnson]

Its slanted.  The Broadway side is essentially 3 floors up, and it slopes down as it gets to the main space (alley side).

[Lockadoc]

But there might already be brackets from old install of TV antennas .
Does anyone recall seeing any while up there in the past?

Bill S
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[crei...@sdf.lonestar.org]

http://scitoys.com/scitoys/scitoys/radio/computer/computer_controlled_transmitter.html

Well, if nothing else, we could use this guy's trick to cover the entire
county. I have no doubts that such a simple hack could be heard on a
normal AM radio for 30 miles or more if the transmitter is using a proper
1/2 wavelength wire antenna.

I saw this and thought, "wow, talk about your emergency transmitter".

Creighton