On Saturday, June 23, 2012 10:47:14 AM UTC-4, Christopher wrote:
> UPDATE:
> I just stopped by the space to see how work is progressing and spoke > with the MSD crew chief.
> They've dug out the drain pipe at the foot of the stairs. They were > waiting for some blades to arrive to cut open the pipe and remove more > sediment/debris/evil spirits. All the information before about > multiple drain lines was apparently incorrect speculation. We've got > the main drain line connecting from the two drains in the basement out > towards the alleyway where the sinkhole appeared. The excavation in > the alleyway went deeper than their excavators could dig, so by > cutting open our pipes and removing debris directly they hope to find > the connection to the yet to be discovered main drain. I left right as > the new blades arrived to cut open the pipe.
> MSD said they are still on a normal workday schedule, and not > overtime. This is work is part of monthly allocated work for repairs > of this kind. They hope to have us draining before their day ends at > 3pm. I'll be waiting for more updates from the landlord when we get to > that point.
> Chris
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Everseeker <e...@gmail.com<eversee...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > Perhaps, if the landlord is going on a 'fill the hole' bender, it would > be > > good to show him the hole-under-slab deal in the server room... > Fill/sealing > > that would be... > > A good thing
The good news: MSD finally found where all that concrete went to!
The bad news: It is in our sewer pipe leading back out to the main drain.
They are attempting to free it enough to get our plumbing going... but
now I'm hearing talk of running all new drainage lines for the
building and digging trenches all along the alley back to Logan or
Shelby St. It's promising that there are still MSD workers at
location past 3pm I suppose.
They still have yet to find where this drain is actually going. The
new information is that the back hoe operator ripped out the buried
drain rather violently. Ideally you dig around these pipes, so as to
determine their direction. But this was not the case.
Getting a straight answer on how long this will take has proven
impossible. The landlord is making arrangements for either use of the
neighboring facilities, or getting us some portable restrooms for the
interim. As soon as these arrangements are made, we can reopen the
space independent of the MSD work that will be continuing presumably
through next week.
As always, I'll provide updates as I receive them.
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:04 AM, John Coder <code...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the update Chris
> On Saturday, June 23, 2012 10:47:14 AM UTC-4, Christopher wrote:
>> UPDATE:
>> I just stopped by the space to see how work is progressing and spoke
>> with the MSD crew chief.
>> They've dug out the drain pipe at the foot of the stairs. They were
>> waiting for some blades to arrive to cut open the pipe and remove more
>> sediment/debris/evil spirits. All the information before about
>> multiple drain lines was apparently incorrect speculation. We've got
>> the main drain line connecting from the two drains in the basement out
>> towards the alleyway where the sinkhole appeared. The excavation in
>> the alleyway went deeper than their excavators could dig, so by
>> cutting open our pipes and removing debris directly they hope to find
>> the connection to the yet to be discovered main drain. I left right as
>> the new blades arrived to cut open the pipe.
>> MSD said they are still on a normal workday schedule, and not
>> overtime. This is work is part of monthly allocated work for repairs
>> of this kind. They hope to have us draining before their day ends at
>> 3pm. I'll be waiting for more updates from the landlord when we get to
>> that point.
>> Chris
>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Everseeker <e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Perhaps, if the landlord is going on a 'fill the hole' bender, it would
>> > be
>> > good to show him the hole-under-slab deal in the server room...
>> > Fill/sealing
>> > that would be...
>> > A good thing
Hey Chris, am I correct in thinking that msd is doing what they can but are
just having problems completing the task? I ask because we deal with MSD
and the water company on a daily basis and the main head of MSD is the
father in law of our operations manager, so I have some direct contacts to
some people that can make sure things are being handled correctly. I
haven't brought it up because I'd prefer not to reach out to these guys
unless its really justified by someone at msd not handling something
correctly, and so far I haven't got that impression but just wanted to let
you know I can make phone calls if needed.
On Jun 23, 2012 6:54 PM, "Christopher Cprek" <paxtita...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The good news: MSD finally found where all that concrete went to!
> The bad news: It is in our sewer pipe leading back out to the main drain.
> They are attempting to free it enough to get our plumbing going... but
> now I'm hearing talk of running all new drainage lines for the
> building and digging trenches all along the alley back to Logan or
> Shelby St. It's promising that there are still MSD workers at
> location past 3pm I suppose.
> They still have yet to find where this drain is actually going. The
> new information is that the back hoe operator ripped out the buried
> drain rather violently. Ideally you dig around these pipes, so as to
> determine their direction. But this was not the case.
> Getting a straight answer on how long this will take has proven
> impossible. The landlord is making arrangements for either use of the
> neighboring facilities, or getting us some portable restrooms for the
> interim. As soon as these arrangements are made, we can reopen the
> space independent of the MSD work that will be continuing presumably
> through next week.
> As always, I'll provide updates as I receive them.
> Chris
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:04 AM, John Coder <code...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Thanks for the update Chris
> > On Saturday, June 23, 2012 10:47:14 AM UTC-4, Christopher wrote:
> >> UPDATE:
> >> I just stopped by the space to see how work is progressing and spoke
> >> with the MSD crew chief.
> >> They've dug out the drain pipe at the foot of the stairs. They were
> >> waiting for some blades to arrive to cut open the pipe and remove more
> >> sediment/debris/evil spirits. All the information before about
> >> multiple drain lines was apparently incorrect speculation. We've got
> >> the main drain line connecting from the two drains in the basement out
> >> towards the alleyway where the sinkhole appeared. The excavation in
> >> the alleyway went deeper than their excavators could dig, so by
> >> cutting open our pipes and removing debris directly they hope to find
> >> the connection to the yet to be discovered main drain. I left right as
> >> the new blades arrived to cut open the pipe.
> >> MSD said they are still on a normal workday schedule, and not
> >> overtime. This is work is part of monthly allocated work for repairs
> >> of this kind. They hope to have us draining before their day ends at
> >> 3pm. I'll be waiting for more updates from the landlord when we get to
> >> that point.
> >> Chris
> >> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Everseeker <e...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Perhaps, if the landlord is going on a 'fill the hole' bender, it
> would
> >> > be
> >> > good to show him the hole-under-slab deal in the server room...
> >> > Fill/sealing
> >> > that would be...
> >> > A good thing
Yeah, MSD is dedicated to resolving this but it's just hard to remove
concrete after it's poured. :-/
UPDATE:
MSD has located all the sewer system connection points they need to
locate and found all the concrete. Turns out the sewer tunnel was just
a couple of feet farther than they were able to dig. And that's where
all the concrete was.
There will be a meeting between the landlord and MSD at 9am Monday.
They've got a basic idea that they'll need to redo all the drainage
lines out to Logan St. and thus have to trench the whole alley.
Sometime after that meeting, we'll be getting one or more
port-a-potties to use while the work is going on. That will allow us
to open while MSD is redoing the buildings sewage line. So expect us
to be open on Monday. I will update everyone once I know this is a go.
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Jonathan Clark <jdc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Chris, am I correct in thinking that msd is doing what they can but are
> just having problems completing the task? I ask because we deal with MSD and
> the water company on a daily basis and the main head of MSD is the father in
> law of our operations manager, so I have some direct contacts to some people
> that can make sure things are being handled correctly. I haven't brought it
> up because I'd prefer not to reach out to these guys unless its really
> justified by someone at msd not handling something correctly, and so far I
> haven't got that impression but just wanted to let you know I can make phone
> calls if needed.
> On Jun 23, 2012 6:54 PM, "Christopher Cprek" <paxtita...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> UPDATE:
>> The saga continues...
>> The good news: MSD finally found where all that concrete went to!
>> The bad news: It is in our sewer pipe leading back out to the main drain.
>> They are attempting to free it enough to get our plumbing going... but
>> now I'm hearing talk of running all new drainage lines for the
>> building and digging trenches all along the alley back to Logan or
>> Shelby St. It's promising that there are still MSD workers at
>> location past 3pm I suppose.
>> They still have yet to find where this drain is actually going. The
>> new information is that the back hoe operator ripped out the buried
>> drain rather violently. Ideally you dig around these pipes, so as to
>> determine their direction. But this was not the case.
>> Getting a straight answer on how long this will take has proven
>> impossible. The landlord is making arrangements for either use of the
>> neighboring facilities, or getting us some portable restrooms for the
>> interim. As soon as these arrangements are made, we can reopen the
>> space independent of the MSD work that will be continuing presumably
>> through next week.
>> As always, I'll provide updates as I receive them.
>> Chris
>> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:04 AM, John Coder <code...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > Thanks for the update Chris
>> > On Saturday, June 23, 2012 10:47:14 AM UTC-4, Christopher wrote:
>> >> UPDATE:
>> >> I just stopped by the space to see how work is progressing and spoke
>> >> with the MSD crew chief.
>> >> They've dug out the drain pipe at the foot of the stairs. They were
>> >> waiting for some blades to arrive to cut open the pipe and remove more
>> >> sediment/debris/evil spirits. All the information before about
>> >> multiple drain lines was apparently incorrect speculation. We've got
>> >> the main drain line connecting from the two drains in the basement out
>> >> towards the alleyway where the sinkhole appeared. The excavation in
>> >> the alleyway went deeper than their excavators could dig, so by
>> >> cutting open our pipes and removing debris directly they hope to find
>> >> the connection to the yet to be discovered main drain. I left right as
>> >> the new blades arrived to cut open the pipe.
>> >> MSD said they are still on a normal workday schedule, and not
>> >> overtime. This is work is part of monthly allocated work for repairs
>> >> of this kind. They hope to have us draining before their day ends at
>> >> 3pm. I'll be waiting for more updates from the landlord when we get to
>> >> that point.
>> >> Chris
>> >> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Everseeker <e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Perhaps, if the landlord is going on a 'fill the hole' bender, it
>> >> > would
>> >> > be
>> >> > good to show him the hole-under-slab deal in the server room...
>> >> > Fill/sealing
>> >> > that would be...
>> >> > A good thing
> Yeah, MSD is dedicated to resolving this but it's just hard to remove
> concrete after it's poured. :-/
> UPDATE:
> MSD has located all the sewer system connection points they need to
> locate and found all the concrete. Turns out the sewer tunnel was just
> a couple of feet farther than they were able to dig. And that's where
> all the concrete was.
> There will be a meeting between the landlord and MSD at 9am Monday.
> They've got a basic idea that they'll need to redo all the drainage
> lines out to Logan St. and thus have to trench the whole alley.
> Sometime after that meeting, we'll be getting one or more
> port-a-potties to use while the work is going on. That will allow us
> to open while MSD is redoing the buildings sewage line. So expect us
> to be open on Monday. I will update everyone once I know this is a go.
> Chris
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Jonathan Clark <jdc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey Chris, am I correct in thinking that msd is doing what they can but are
>> just having problems completing the task? I ask because we deal with MSD and
>> the water company on a daily basis and the main head of MSD is the father in
>> law of our operations manager, so I have some direct contacts to some people
>> that can make sure things are being handled correctly. I haven't brought it
>> up because I'd prefer not to reach out to these guys unless its really
>> justified by someone at msd not handling something correctly, and so far I
>> haven't got that impression but just wanted to let you know I can make phone
>> calls if needed.
>> On Jun 23, 2012 6:54 PM, "Christopher Cprek" <paxtita...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> UPDATE:
>>> The saga continues...
>>> The good news: MSD finally found where all that concrete went to!
>>> The bad news: It is in our sewer pipe leading back out to the main drain.
>>> They are attempting to free it enough to get our plumbing going... but
>>> now I'm hearing talk of running all new drainage lines for the
>>> building and digging trenches all along the alley back to Logan or
>>> Shelby St. It's promising that there are still MSD workers at
>>> location past 3pm I suppose.
>>> They still have yet to find where this drain is actually going. The
>>> new information is that the back hoe operator ripped out the buried
>>> drain rather violently. Ideally you dig around these pipes, so as to
>>> determine their direction. But this was not the case.
>>> Getting a straight answer on how long this will take has proven
>>> impossible. The landlord is making arrangements for either use of the
>>> neighboring facilities, or getting us some portable restrooms for the
>>> interim. As soon as these arrangements are made, we can reopen the
>>> space independent of the MSD work that will be continuing presumably
>>> through next week.
>>> As always, I'll provide updates as I receive them.
>>> Chris
>>> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:04 AM, John Coder <code...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the update Chris
>>>> On Saturday, June 23, 2012 10:47:14 AM UTC-4, Christopher wrote:
>>>>> UPDATE:
>>>>> I just stopped by the space to see how work is progressing and spoke
>>>>> with the MSD crew chief.
>>>>> They've dug out the drain pipe at the foot of the stairs. They were
>>>>> waiting for some blades to arrive to cut open the pipe and remove more
>>>>> sediment/debris/evil spirits. All the information before about
>>>>> multiple drain lines was apparently incorrect speculation. We've got
>>>>> the main drain line connecting from the two drains in the basement out
>>>>> towards the alleyway where the sinkhole appeared. The excavation in
>>>>> the alleyway went deeper than their excavators could dig, so by
>>>>> cutting open our pipes and removing debris directly they hope to find
>>>>> the connection to the yet to be discovered main drain. I left right as
>>>>> the new blades arrived to cut open the pipe.
>>>>> MSD said they are still on a normal workday schedule, and not
>>>>> overtime. This is work is part of monthly allocated work for repairs
>>>>> of this kind. They hope to have us draining before their day ends at
>>>>> 3pm. I'll be waiting for more updates from the landlord when we get to
>>>>> that point.
>>>>> Chris
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Everseeker <e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Perhaps, if the landlord is going on a 'fill the hole' bender, it
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> good to show him the hole-under-slab deal in the server room...
>>>>>> Fill/sealing
>>>>>> that would be...
>>>>>> A good thing
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Jason Dodd <jason.s.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Measure twice, poor once?
> On 06/24/2012 02:25 PM, Christopher Cprek wrote:
>> Yeah, MSD is dedicated to resolving this but it's just hard to remove
>> concrete after it's poured. :-/
>> UPDATE:
>> MSD has located all the sewer system connection points they need to
>> locate and found all the concrete. Turns out the sewer tunnel was just
>> a couple of feet farther than they were able to dig. And that's where
>> all the concrete was.
>> There will be a meeting between the landlord and MSD at 9am Monday.
>> They've got a basic idea that they'll need to redo all the drainage
>> lines out to Logan St. and thus have to trench the whole alley.
>> Sometime after that meeting, we'll be getting one or more
>> port-a-potties to use while the work is going on. That will allow us
>> to open while MSD is redoing the buildings sewage line. So expect us
>> to be open on Monday. I will update everyone once I know this is a go.
>> Chris
>> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Jonathan Clark <jdc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hey Chris, am I correct in thinking that msd is doing what they can but
>>> are
>>> just having problems completing the task? I ask because we deal with MSD
>>> and
>>> the water company on a daily basis and the main head of MSD is the father
>>> in
>>> law of our operations manager, so I have some direct contacts to some
>>> people
>>> that can make sure things are being handled correctly. I haven't brought
>>> it
>>> up because I'd prefer not to reach out to these guys unless its really
>>> justified by someone at msd not handling something correctly, and so far
>>> I
>>> haven't got that impression but just wanted to let you know I can make
>>> phone
>>> calls if needed.
>>> On Jun 23, 2012 6:54 PM, "Christopher Cprek" <paxtita...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> UPDATE:
>>>> The saga continues...
>>>> The good news: MSD finally found where all that concrete went to!
>>>> The bad news: It is in our sewer pipe leading back out to the main
>>>> drain.
>>>> They are attempting to free it enough to get our plumbing going... but
>>>> now I'm hearing talk of running all new drainage lines for the
>>>> building and digging trenches all along the alley back to Logan or
>>>> Shelby St. It's promising that there are still MSD workers at
>>>> location past 3pm I suppose.
>>>> They still have yet to find where this drain is actually going. The
>>>> new information is that the back hoe operator ripped out the buried
>>>> drain rather violently. Ideally you dig around these pipes, so as to
>>>> determine their direction. But this was not the case.
>>>> Getting a straight answer on how long this will take has proven
>>>> impossible. The landlord is making arrangements for either use of the
>>>> neighboring facilities, or getting us some portable restrooms for the
>>>> interim. As soon as these arrangements are made, we can reopen the
>>>> space independent of the MSD work that will be continuing presumably
>>>> through next week.
>>>> As always, I'll provide updates as I receive them.
>>>> Chris
>>>> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:04 AM, John Coder <code...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for the update Chris
>>>>> On Saturday, June 23, 2012 10:47:14 AM UTC-4, Christopher wrote:
>>>>>> UPDATE:
>>>>>> I just stopped by the space to see how work is progressing and spoke
>>>>>> with the MSD crew chief.
>>>>>> They've dug out the drain pipe at the foot of the stairs. They were
>>>>>> waiting for some blades to arrive to cut open the pipe and remove more
>>>>>> sediment/debris/evil spirits. All the information before about
>>>>>> multiple drain lines was apparently incorrect speculation. We've got
>>>>>> the main drain line connecting from the two drains in the basement out
>>>>>> towards the alleyway where the sinkhole appeared. The excavation in
>>>>>> the alleyway went deeper than their excavators could dig, so by
>>>>>> cutting open our pipes and removing debris directly they hope to find
>>>>>> the connection to the yet to be discovered main drain. I left right as
>>>>>> the new blades arrived to cut open the pipe.
>>>>>> MSD said they are still on a normal workday schedule, and not
>>>>>> overtime. This is work is part of monthly allocated work for repairs
>>>>>> of this kind. They hope to have us draining before their day ends at
>>>>>> 3pm. I'll be waiting for more updates from the landlord when we get to
>>>>>> that point.
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Everseeker <e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Perhaps, if the landlord is going on a 'fill the hole' bender, it
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> good to show him the hole-under-slab deal in the server room...
>>>>>>> Fill/sealing
>>>>>>> that would be...
>>>>>>> A good thing
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Christopher Cprek <paxtita...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, MSD is dedicated to resolving this but it's just hard to remove
> concrete after it's poured. :-/
> UPDATE:
> MSD has located all the sewer system connection points they need to
> locate and found all the concrete. Turns out the sewer tunnel was just
> a couple of feet farther than they were able to dig. And that's where
> all the concrete was.
> There will be a meeting between the landlord and MSD at 9am Monday.
> They've got a basic idea that they'll need to redo all the drainage
> lines out to Logan St. and thus have to trench the whole alley.
> Sometime after that meeting, we'll be getting one or more
> port-a-potties to use while the work is going on. That will allow us
> to open while MSD is redoing the buildings sewage line. So expect us
> to be open on Monday. I will update everyone once I know this is a go.
> Chris
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Jonathan Clark <jdc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey Chris, am I correct in thinking that msd is doing what they can but are
>> just having problems completing the task? I ask because we deal with MSD and
>> the water company on a daily basis and the main head of MSD is the father in
>> law of our operations manager, so I have some direct contacts to some people
>> that can make sure things are being handled correctly. I haven't brought it
>> up because I'd prefer not to reach out to these guys unless its really
>> justified by someone at msd not handling something correctly, and so far I
>> haven't got that impression but just wanted to let you know I can make phone
>> calls if needed.
>> On Jun 23, 2012 6:54 PM, "Christopher Cprek" <paxtita...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> UPDATE:
>>> The saga continues...
>>> The good news: MSD finally found where all that concrete went to!
>>> The bad news: It is in our sewer pipe leading back out to the main drain.
>>> They are attempting to free it enough to get our plumbing going... but
>>> now I'm hearing talk of running all new drainage lines for the
>>> building and digging trenches all along the alley back to Logan or
>>> Shelby St. It's promising that there are still MSD workers at
>>> location past 3pm I suppose.
>>> They still have yet to find where this drain is actually going. The
>>> new information is that the back hoe operator ripped out the buried
>>> drain rather violently. Ideally you dig around these pipes, so as to
>>> determine their direction. But this was not the case.
>>> Getting a straight answer on how long this will take has proven
>>> impossible. The landlord is making arrangements for either use of the
>>> neighboring facilities, or getting us some portable restrooms for the
>>> interim. As soon as these arrangements are made, we can reopen the
>>> space independent of the MSD work that will be continuing presumably
>>> through next week.
>>> As always, I'll provide updates as I receive them.
>>> Chris
>>> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:04 AM, John Coder <code...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> > Thanks for the update Chris
>>> > On Saturday, June 23, 2012 10:47:14 AM UTC-4, Christopher wrote:
>>> >> UPDATE:
>>> >> I just stopped by the space to see how work is progressing and spoke
>>> >> with the MSD crew chief.
>>> >> They've dug out the drain pipe at the foot of the stairs. They were
>>> >> waiting for some blades to arrive to cut open the pipe and remove more
>>> >> sediment/debris/evil spirits. All the information before about
>>> >> multiple drain lines was apparently incorrect speculation. We've got
>>> >> the main drain line connecting from the two drains in the basement out
>>> >> towards the alleyway where the sinkhole appeared. The excavation in
>>> >> the alleyway went deeper than their excavators could dig, so by
>>> >> cutting open our pipes and removing debris directly they hope to find
>>> >> the connection to the yet to be discovered main drain. I left right as
>>> >> the new blades arrived to cut open the pipe.
>>> >> MSD said they are still on a normal workday schedule, and not
>>> >> overtime. This is work is part of monthly allocated work for repairs
>>> >> of this kind. They hope to have us draining before their day ends at
>>> >> 3pm. I'll be waiting for more updates from the landlord when we get to
>>> >> that point.
>>> >> Chris
>>> >> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Everseeker <e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > Perhaps, if the landlord is going on a 'fill the hole' bender, it
>>> >> > would
>>> >> > be
>>> >> > good to show him the hole-under-slab deal in the server room...
>>> >> > Fill/sealing
>>> >> > that would be...
>>> >> > A good thing
Sigh. Never doubt an engineer with decades of experience. When you sent out word that they would be digging and the space would be closed, I asked my Dad, a civil engineer P.E. with 40+ years of experience, what was going on. After a fascinating explanation of things like Karst topography, how sinkholes form, how virtrified clay pipes degrade, and what the thought was most likely going on (sounds like he was dead one, BTW), I asked him how long he thought LVL1 was going to be closed. He gave me an estimate a lot longer than I expected, noting that they were most likely going to run a new sewer line in the alley. I dismissed it, thinking that because of the expense they would just unclog the problem with ours. Of course, from what you're describing, they're doing everything he predicted. Never doubt an engineer who can quote OSHA code from a rough, second-hand description of work being doing on a problem you can't really explain.
On the bright side, he had a whole bunch of suggestions since work was being performed anyway. I don't remember most of them but they included installing a "clean out" system in the alley and suggestions on the proper pipe thickness for PVC (schedule 80, i think?) we would need. Since these are all things that the landlord is going to have to decide on, I'm sure my Dad would be happy to talk to him and answer any questions he had or to offer advice. Chris, if the landlord would like this, just let me know.
>________________________________ > From:Christopher Cprek <paxtita...@gmail.com> >To:lvl1@googlegroups.com >Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 2:25 PM >Subject: Re: {LVL1} Re: LVL1 temporarily closed until further notice
>Yeah, MSD is dedicated to resolving this but it's just hard to remove >concrete after it's poured. :-/
>UPDATE:
>MSD has located all the sewer system connection points they need to >locate and found all the concrete. Turns out the sewer tunnel was just >a couple of feet farther than they were able to dig. And that's where >all the concrete was.
>There will be a meeting between the landlord and MSD at 9am Monday. >They've got a basic idea that they'll need to redo all the drainage >lines out to Logan St. and thus have to trench the whole alley.
>Sometime after that meeting, we'll be getting one or more >port-a-potties to use while the work is going on. That will allow us >to open while MSD is redoing the buildings sewage line. So expect us >to be open on Monday. I will update everyone once I know this is a go.
>Chris
>On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Jonathan Clark <jdc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hey Chris, am I correct in thinking that msd is doing what they can but are >> just having problems completing the task? I ask because we deal with MSD and >> the water company on a daily basis and the main head of MSD is the father in >> law of our operations manager, so I have some direct contacts to some people >> that can make sure things are being handled correctly. I haven't brought it >> up because I'd prefer not to reach out to these guys unless its really >> justified by someone at msd not handling something correctly, and so far I >> haven't got that impression but just wanted to let you know I can make phone >> calls if needed.
>> On Jun 23, 2012 6:54 PM, "Christopher Cprek" <paxtita...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> UPDATE:
>>> The saga continues...
>>> The good news: MSD finally found where all that concrete went to!
>>> The bad news: It is in our sewer pipe leading back out to the main drain.
>>> They are attempting to free it enough to get our plumbing going... but >>> now I'm hearing talk of running all new drainage lines for the >>> building and digging trenches all along the alley back to Logan or >>> Shelby St. It's promising that there are still MSD workers at >>> location past 3pm I suppose.
>>> They still have yet to find where this drain is actually going. The >>> new information is that the back hoe operator ripped out the buried >>> drain rather violently. Ideally you dig around these pipes, so as to >>> determine their direction. But this was not the case.
>>> Getting a straight answer on how long this will take has proven >>> impossible. The landlord is making arrangements for either use of the >>> neighboring facilities, or getting us some portable restrooms for the >>> interim. As soon as these arrangements are made, we can reopen the >>> space independent of the MSD work that will be continuing presumably >>> through next week.
>>> As always, I'll provide updates as I receive them.
>>> Chris >>> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:04 AM, John Coder <code...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> > Thanks for the update Chris
>>> > On Saturday, June 23, 2012 10:47:14 AM UTC-4, Christopher wrote:
>>> >> UPDATE:
>>> >> I just stopped by the space to see how work is progressing and spoke >>> >> with the MSD crew chief.
>>> >> They've dug out the drain pipe at the foot of the stairs. They were >>> >> waiting for some blades to arrive to cut open the pipe and remove more >>> >> sediment/debris/evil spirits. All the information before about >>> >> multiple drain lines was apparently incorrect speculation. We've got >>> >> the main drain line connecting from the two drains in the basement out >>> >> towards the alleyway where the sinkhole appeared. The excavation in >>> >> the alleyway went deeper than their excavators could dig, so by >>> >> cutting open our pipes and removing debris directly they hope to find >>> >> the connection to the yet to be discovered main drain. I left right as >>> >> the new blades arrived to cut open the pipe.
>>> >> MSD said they are still on a normal workday schedule, and not >>> >> overtime. This is work is part of monthly allocated work for repairs >>> >> of this kind. They hope to have us draining before their day ends at >>> >> 3pm. I'll be waiting for more updates from the landlord when we get to >>> >> that point.
>>> >> Chris
>>> >> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Everseeker <e...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> > Perhaps, if the landlord is going on a 'fill the hole' bender, it >>> >> > would >>> >> > be >>> >> > good to show him the hole-under-slab deal in the server room... >>> >> > Fill/sealing >>> >> > that would be... >>> >> > A good thing
