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Brian Harper  
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 More options Sep 4 2012, 10:50 am
From: Brian Harper <brianharperstu...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 07:50:18 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 4 2012 10:50 am
Subject: Idea - Open Crowd Project

Hi everyone -

I'm a newbie at the LVL1 space - I've attended a few meetings over the last
couple of months, but I'm interested in spending more time there in the
upcoming months.  Anyway, I have a collaborative project in mind and I'm
wondering if any of you would be interested in working on it, have ideas
for it, etc.  

The idea, in a nutshell, is to use 3D scanning and printing technology to
create a “crowd” of people printed with 3D printers.  The aim of this
project is to collaborate with people who may be in different geographic
areas, but are willing collaborate in an online space.  By sharing 3D scans
of ourselves, we can work to pull together a crowd of people that exists
through the action of sharing the three dimensional “information” contained
by each body.  The grouping of people built through this project would be
an amalgam of individuals that have never seen each other, but their
representations (the prints of their bodies) exist together in one group.  
I'm also thinking the project would be open for others to add to it by
submitting their own scans and that they would also be able to print their
own "crowds" (if they had access to a 3D printer).

Personally, I also think it would be really cool to see yourself standing
with a group of people that has never before been assembled in physical
space.

Right now, I'm working with software called 123D Catch to create scans of
people, then fixing them up in Blender, Sculpturis, Netfabb, etc, then
printing on a Makerbot Replicator - I'm hoping to open this up to lots of
people, so being able to use only a regular camera would allow the highest
number of people to participate.  However, I would also like to try using
Reonstructme with a Kinect.  My computer doesn't have the right graphics
card to run Reconstructme, but maybe others at LVL1 might?

Alright, sorry for the long e-mail.  I'll be at the meeting tonight if
anyone is interested in chatting about it.

Talk to you soon,

Brian Harper


 
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 More options Sep 4 2012, 10:58 am
From: Brian Wagner <br...@tegrasys.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 10:58:32 -0400
Local: Tues, Sep 4 2012 10:58 am
Subject: Re: {LVL1} Idea - Open Crowd Project

I like the idea.  You could extend it by having scans of famous people...

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Brian Harper  
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 More options Sep 4 2012, 11:20 am
From: Brian Harper <brianharperstu...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 08:20:22 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 4 2012 11:20 am
Subject: Re: {LVL1} Idea - Open Crowd Project

Yes, that would be really cool.  I've actually been trying to do that with
images of famous people from Google images, but haven't had any success yet.

Brian


 
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Brian Harper  
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 More options Sep 5 2012, 8:30 am
From: Brian Harper <brianharperstu...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 05:30:27 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Sep 5 2012 8:30 am
Subject: Re: {LVL1} Idea - Open Crowd Project

Thanks for letting me introduce this idea to everyone at the meeting last
night.  I'm still all ears, so if anyone has any ideas or wants to help
out, I'm game - just let me know.

Brian


 
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Christopher Cprek  
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 More options Sep 5 2012, 9:23 am
From: Christopher Cprek <paxtita...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 09:23:03 -0400
Local: Wed, Sep 5 2012 9:23 am
Subject: Re: {LVL1} Idea - Open Crowd Project
Sorry I didn't get a chance to talk with you last night.

Question: Will these be full-size 3D scanned crowds? Also, contact me
off list about the IdeaFestival booth.

Chris

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 More options Sep 5 2012, 2:05 pm
From: Brian Harper <brianharperstu...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 11:05:44 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Sep 5 2012 2:05 pm
Subject: Re: {LVL1} Idea - Open Crowd Project

Hey Chris -

That would certainly be very cool to print them larger, but the ones I've
printed so far are small - around 4" high.  Right now, I'm interested in
making artwork with it .. maybe some platforms sticking out of the walls
with the crowds of people on them, so the small size is actually better for
that idea.  

Also, I'm mostly thinking about these first prints being from the waist
up.  The tests I've done on the full body scans haven't worked very well -
partly because of the narrowness of the feet compared to the rest of the
body on the print.  

One of the problems right now is that my computer can't run the
Reconstructme software.  I'm willing to buy the Kinnect, but right now I
don't have a computer to try the real time scanning option.

gotta run right now, but I'll message you about Idea Festival.
Brian


 
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 More options Sep 16 2012, 8:55 am
From: Brian Harper <brianharperstu...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 05:55:44 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Sep 16 2012 8:55 am
Subject: Re: Idea - Open Crowd Project

Hey everyone,

Just thought I'd let everyone know that I have a website up and running for
this project now, so check it out if you have a minute.  Still a work in
progress, but here it is: http://www.theopencrowdproject.com/

Spread the word if you know of others that might be interested.  I'd like
to get as many people participating from as many different geographic areas
as possible.

Thanks!
brian  


 
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 More options Sep 16 2012, 10:56 am
From: Christopher Cprek <paxtita...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:56:17 -0400
Local: Sun, Sep 16 2012 10:56 am
Subject: Re: {LVL1} Re: Idea - Open Crowd Project
Is it possible to take the photos from a fixed position and a swivel
chair? If so, we could set something up at the LVL1 Tuesday meeting
and Oculus (our documentation camera) to get a bunch of people 3D
scanned.

Chris

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 More options Sep 16 2012, 11:37 am
From: Brian Wagner <br...@tegrasys.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:37:16 -0400
Local: Sun, Sep 16 2012 11:37 am
Subject: Re: {LVL1} Re: Idea - Open Crowd Project

Have you seen this 3d scanner using a Kinect.  I think there might be a
Kinect at the space and it looks like the software is downloadable for
free. Check it out here  http://reconstructme.net/

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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:49:01 -0500
Local: Sun, Sep 16 2012 11:49 am
Subject: Re: {LVL1} Re: Idea - Open Crowd Project
 
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 More options Sep 16 2012, 12:55 pm
From: Brian Harper <brianharperstu...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:55:22 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Sep 16 2012 12:55 pm
Subject: Re: {LVL1} Re: Idea - Open Crowd Project

yeah, I've been doing a bunch of research on using the Kinect.  I tried to
get the Reconstructme software running on my PC, but my graphics card is
too old/not supported.  I've installed Windows on a MAC at school, so I'm
headed that way later today to try it.  

Chris, it would be really awesome to do scans of people at Idea Festival if
you're up for it .. I don't want it to get in the way of what you're doing
there, but I'd be all for trying it.

Kinect scanning would be WAY faster, too.  Right now, the turnaround time
is a couple of hours per scan for the photo technique.  So, I'm all for
learning a new method that speeds that process up.

For trying to get the highest number of people participating in the
project, I'm hoping that the relative ease of only needing a camera, some
tape, a marker, and sending your images in, will encourage people to get
involved.  We'll see, the jury is still out on that, though!

Brian


 
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 More options Sep 16 2012, 1:33 pm
From: Chris Kimmer <thumbl...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:33:01 -0400
Local: Sun, Sep 16 2012 1:33 pm
Subject: Re: {LVL1} Re: Idea - Open Crowd Project

I'm interested in the Kinect side and could bring my laptop + Kinect for a little bit Tuesday. Would it be before or after the regular meeting? I don't really want to deal with ReconstructMe and the Windows-only requirement. It is pretty easy to get a point cloud for different rotations of an office chair or a turntable (which should be accurately measured) and merge them together into a single dataset. After that, MeshLab + Blender is an open source way to deal with the data. Rather than trying to scan a bunch of people, the goal would be to work on getting a good data set from the Kinect and then automating it so more people could be scanned at LVL1 or anywhere else in the future.

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 More options Sep 16 2012, 7:24 pm
From: Brian Harper <brianharperstu...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:24:32 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Sep 16 2012 7:24 pm
Subject: Re: {LVL1} Re: Idea - Open Crowd Project

I'd be happy to come to LVL1 earlier than the meeting on Tuesday.  I could
probably get there about 5:30 or so.  I have a Kinect now as well, but I
couldn't get it working on the computer I was trying it on .. said the
opencl.dll is missing, so I'm not sure what to do about that.

Anyway, I'll bring what I have early and meet whoever is there to see what
we can come up with.

Brian


 
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