On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Jeff Johnson <jeffjohn...@gmail.com> wrote: > I still say it would be nice if there was a list of things to do when this > happens so its not such a mystery.
> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Lockadoc <locka...@aol.com> wrote:
>> Mother says white star lost its Internet connection at 12:06
>> I am at space now >> Anything I can do for it? >> Bill S >> Sent from my iPhone
Thanks Bill! If you'd like to help, The two computers upstairs in the music loft are the ones that she is watching, just go up there and see if the ethernet router is still powered, and go up to the mission control area and make sure that one is powered too, and reboot the computer if needed. On Apr 6, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote:
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Dan Bowen <steamf...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Bill! If you'd like to help, The two computers upstairs in the > music loft are the ones that she is watching, just go up there and see if > the ethernet router is still powered, and go up to the mission control area > and make sure that one is powered too, and reboot the computer if needed.
> On Apr 6, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote:
> I still say it would be nice if there was a list of things to do when this > happens so its not such a mystery.
> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Lockadoc <locka...@aol.com> wrote:
>> Mother says white star lost its Internet connection at 12:06
>> I am at space now >> Anything I can do for it? >> Bill S >> Sent from my iPhone
I'm not a paying member, so I don't have access to the building unless someone is going to be there. I want to get to the roof, or other possible antenna sight, in order to be able to judge how much work is going to be involved in setting up a mesh-net node there and what kind of other sites could be considered for another node. I doubt that I could see my own garage roof from there, but maybe. Anybody have a pair of binoculars handy?
I can't be there tonight, but FYI you'll need a ladder to get on our roof.
Our neighboring building had it's roof redone with a rubber membrane that can easily be damaged. Because of this, no one is allowed to use the neighbor's roof to access our own roof. This is out of respect for the neighbor, to avoid damaging his roof. We've had one situation in the past because of using his roof without asking, and we don't want another one. It's possible we can contact him for permission / schedule a time to get up there in a monitored way...
...but basically what I'm saying is make sure you've got a ladder that you can use to access the roof from the alleyway first.
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 3:33 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: > I'm not a paying member, so I don't have access to the building unless > someone is going to be there. I want to get to the roof, or other > possible antenna sight, in order to be able to judge how much work is > going to be involved in setting up a mesh-net node there and what kind of > other sites could be considered for another node. I doubt that I could > see my own garage roof from there, but maybe. Anybody have a pair of > binoculars handy?
So there is no access to the roof from inside the space's building? I don't own an extension ladder that tall, and don't think that I'd be inclined to use it anyway.
> I can't be there tonight, but FYI you'll need a ladder to get on our roof.
> Our neighboring building had it's roof redone with a rubber membrane > that can easily be damaged. Because of this, no one is allowed to use > the neighbor's roof to access our own roof. This is out of respect for > the neighbor, to avoid damaging his roof. We've had one situation in > the past because of using his roof without asking, and we don't want > another one. It's possible we can contact him for permission / > schedule a time to get up there in a monitored way...
> ...but basically what I'm saying is make sure you've got a ladder that > you can use to access the roof from the alleyway first.
> Chris
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 3:33 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: >> I'm not a paying member, so I don't have access to the building unless >> someone is going to be there. I want to get to the roof, or other >> possible antenna sight, in order to be able to judge how much work is >> going to be involved in setting up a mesh-net node there and what kind >> of >> other sites could be considered for another node. I doubt that I could >> see my own garage roof from there, but maybe. Anybody have a pair of >> binoculars handy?
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:58 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: > So there is no access to the roof from inside the space's building? I > don't own an extension ladder that tall, and don't think that I'd be > inclined to use it anyway.
> Creighton
> > I can't be there tonight, but FYI you'll need a ladder to get on our > roof.
> > Our neighboring building had it's roof redone with a rubber membrane > > that can easily be damaged. Because of this, no one is allowed to use > > the neighbor's roof to access our own roof. This is out of respect for > > the neighbor, to avoid damaging his roof. We've had one situation in > > the past because of using his roof without asking, and we don't want > > another one. It's possible we can contact him for permission / > > schedule a time to get up there in a monitored way...
> > ...but basically what I'm saying is make sure you've got a ladder that > > you can use to access the roof from the alleyway first.
> > Chris
> > On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 3:33 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: > >> I'm not a paying member, so I don't have access to the building unless > >> someone is going to be there. I want to get to the roof, or other > >> possible antenna sight, in order to be able to judge how much work is > >> going to be involved in setting up a mesh-net node there and what kind > >> of > >> other sites could be considered for another node. I doubt that I could > >> see my own garage roof from there, but maybe. Anybody have a pair of > >> binoculars handy?
> Not without judicious use of a sawzall, there isn't.
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:58 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org > <mailto:creig...@sdf.lonestar.org>> wrote:
> So there is no access to the roof from inside the space's building? I > don't own an extension ladder that tall, and don't think that I'd be > inclined to use it anyway.
> Creighton
> > I can't be there tonight, but FYI you'll need a ladder to get on > our roof.
> > Our neighboring building had it's roof redone with a rubber membrane > > that can easily be damaged. Because of this, no one is allowed > to use > > the neighbor's roof to access our own roof. This is out of > respect for > > the neighbor, to avoid damaging his roof. We've had one situation in > > the past because of using his roof without asking, and we don't want > > another one. It's possible we can contact him for permission / > > schedule a time to get up there in a monitored way...
> > ...but basically what I'm saying is make sure you've got a > ladder that > > you can use to access the roof from the alleyway first.
> > Chris
> > On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 3:33 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org > <mailto:creig...@sdf.lonestar.org>> wrote: > >> I'm not a paying member, so I don't have access to the building > unless > >> someone is going to be there. I want to get to the roof, or other > >> possible antenna sight, in order to be able to judge how much > work is > >> going to be involved in setting up a mesh-net node there and > what kind > >> of > >> other sites could be considered for another node. I doubt that > I could > >> see my own garage roof from there, but maybe. Anybody have a > pair of > >> binoculars handy?
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:08 PM, John Hicks <johnl...@gulfbridge.com> wrote: > ** > Or through one of the skylights...
> On 04/09/2012 06:33 PM, Brad Luyster wrote:
> Not without judicious use of a sawzall, there isn't.
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:58 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
>> So there is no access to the roof from inside the space's building? I >> don't own an extension ladder that tall, and don't think that I'd be >> inclined to use it anyway.
>> Creighton
>> > I can't be there tonight, but FYI you'll need a ladder to get on our >> roof.
>> > Our neighboring building had it's roof redone with a rubber membrane >> > that can easily be damaged. Because of this, no one is allowed to use >> > the neighbor's roof to access our own roof. This is out of respect for >> > the neighbor, to avoid damaging his roof. We've had one situation in >> > the past because of using his roof without asking, and we don't want >> > another one. It's possible we can contact him for permission / >> > schedule a time to get up there in a monitored way...
>> > ...but basically what I'm saying is make sure you've got a ladder that >> > you can use to access the roof from the alleyway first.
>> > Chris
>> > On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 3:33 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: >> >> I'm not a paying member, so I don't have access to the building unless >> >> someone is going to be there. I want to get to the roof, or other >> >> possible antenna sight, in order to be able to judge how much work is >> >> going to be involved in setting up a mesh-net node there and what kind >> >> of >> >> other sites could be considered for another node. I doubt that I could >> >> see my own garage roof from there, but maybe. Anybody have a pair of >> >> binoculars handy?
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:08 PM, John Hicks <johnl...@gulfbridge.com> > wrote:
>> ** >> Or through one of the skylights...
>> On 04/09/2012 06:33 PM, Brad Luyster wrote:
>> Not without judicious use of a sawzall, there isn't.
>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:58 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
>>> So there is no access to the roof from inside the space's building? I >>> don't own an extension ladder that tall, and don't think that I'd be >>> inclined to use it anyway.
>>> Creighton
>>> > I can't be there tonight, but FYI you'll need a ladder to get on our >>> roof.
>>> > Our neighboring building had it's roof redone with a rubber membrane >>> > that can easily be damaged. Because of this, no one is allowed to use >>> > the neighbor's roof to access our own roof. This is out of respect >>> for >>> > the neighbor, to avoid damaging his roof. We've had one situation in >>> > the past because of using his roof without asking, and we don't want >>> > another one. It's possible we can contact him for permission / >>> > schedule a time to get up there in a monitored way...
>>> > ...but basically what I'm saying is make sure you've got a ladder >>> that >>> > you can use to access the roof from the alleyway first.
>>> > Chris
>>> > On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 3:33 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: >>> >> I'm not a paying member, so I don't have access to the building >>> unless >>> >> someone is going to be there. I want to get to the roof, or other >>> >> possible antenna sight, in order to be able to judge how much work >>> is >>> >> going to be involved in setting up a mesh-net node there and what >>> kind >>> >> of >>> >> other sites could be considered for another node. I doubt that I >>> could >>> >> see my own garage roof from there, but maybe. Anybody have a pair >>> of >>> >> binoculars handy?
Having a long ladder for direct roof access is the best option, but I can still make arrangements with the neighbor to get access to the roof if that's desired. I just need to know in advance when this will happen, so I can contact him and make arrangements. It still requires a short ladder to make the hop from the neighbor's roof to ours, but we have that.
Contact me directly if this is something you're interested in.
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:57 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: > Some other time, then.
> Creighton
>> Judicious use of a hammer, then.
>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:08 PM, John Hicks <johnl...@gulfbridge.com> >> wrote:
>>> ** >>> Or through one of the skylights...
>>> On 04/09/2012 06:33 PM, Brad Luyster wrote:
>>> Not without judicious use of a sawzall, there isn't.
>>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:58 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
>>>> So there is no access to the roof from inside the space's building? I >>>> don't own an extension ladder that tall, and don't think that I'd be >>>> inclined to use it anyway.
>>>> Creighton
>>>> > I can't be there tonight, but FYI you'll need a ladder to get on our >>>> roof.
>>>> > Our neighboring building had it's roof redone with a rubber membrane >>>> > that can easily be damaged. Because of this, no one is allowed to use >>>> > the neighbor's roof to access our own roof. This is out of respect >>>> for >>>> > the neighbor, to avoid damaging his roof. We've had one situation in >>>> > the past because of using his roof without asking, and we don't want >>>> > another one. It's possible we can contact him for permission / >>>> > schedule a time to get up there in a monitored way...
>>>> > ...but basically what I'm saying is make sure you've got a ladder >>>> that >>>> > you can use to access the roof from the alleyway first.
>>>> > Chris
>>>> > On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 3:33 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: >>>> >> I'm not a paying member, so I don't have access to the building >>>> unless >>>> >> someone is going to be there. I want to get to the roof, or other >>>> >> possible antenna sight, in order to be able to judge how much work >>>> is >>>> >> going to be involved in setting up a mesh-net node there and what >>>> kind >>>> >> of >>>> >> other sites could be considered for another node. I doubt that I >>>> could >>>> >> see my own garage roof from there, but maybe. Anybody have a pair >>>> of >>>> >> binoculars handy?
> Having a long ladder for direct roof access is the best option, but I > can still make arrangements with the neighbor to get access to the > roof if that's desired. I just need to know in advance when this will > happen, so I can contact him and make arrangements. It still requires > a short ladder to make the hop from the neighbor's roof to ours, but > we have that.
> Contact me directly if this is something you're interested in.
> Chris
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:57 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: > > Some other time, then.
> > Creighton
> >> Judicious use of a hammer, then.
> >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:08 PM, John Hicks <johnl...@gulfbridge.com> > >> wrote:
> >>> ** > >>> Or through one of the skylights...
> >>> On 04/09/2012 06:33 PM, Brad Luyster wrote:
> >>> Not without judicious use of a sawzall, there isn't.
> >>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:58 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
> >>>> So there is no access to the roof from inside the space's building? I > >>>> don't own an extension ladder that tall, and don't think that I'd be > >>>> inclined to use it anyway.
> >>>> Creighton
> >>>> > I can't be there tonight, but FYI you'll need a ladder to get on our > >>>> roof.
> >>>> > Our neighboring building had it's roof redone with a rubber membrane > >>>> > that can easily be damaged. Because of this, no one is allowed to > use > >>>> > the neighbor's roof to access our own roof. This is out of respect > >>>> for > >>>> > the neighbor, to avoid damaging his roof. We've had one situation in > >>>> > the past because of using his roof without asking, and we don't want > >>>> > another one. It's possible we can contact him for permission / > >>>> > schedule a time to get up there in a monitored way...
> >>>> > ...but basically what I'm saying is make sure you've got a ladder > >>>> that > >>>> > you can use to access the roof from the alleyway first.
> >>>> > Chris
> >>>> > On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 3:33 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: > >>>> >> I'm not a paying member, so I don't have access to the building > >>>> unless > >>>> >> someone is going to be there. I want to get to the roof, or other > >>>> >> possible antenna sight, in order to be able to judge how much work > >>>> is > >>>> >> going to be involved in setting up a mesh-net node there and what > >>>> kind > >>>> >> of > >>>> >> other sites could be considered for another node. I doubt that I > >>>> could > >>>> >> see my own garage roof from there, but maybe. Anybody have a pair > >>>> of > >>>> >> binoculars handy?
Would some kind of cantilevered platform be worth looking at hacking together with our building guy's permission?
Sturdy L brackets into the masonry (if that will work on our instance) and a platform that could be stepped out onto without making any contact at all with the neighbors roof....
(Besides platform install and maintenance). Not talking about something huge.. couple of boards wide.. (from our wall.).. with perhaps some stirrups/etc to secure a ladder base.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Jeff Johnson <jeffjohn...@gmail.com> wrote: > If plywood was put down over any place on the roof that was going to be > stood on or hold a ladder, it should be okay, if the neighbor grants > consent.
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Christopher Cprek <paxtita...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> Having a long ladder for direct roof access is the best option, but I >> can still make arrangements with the neighbor to get access to the >> roof if that's desired. I just need to know in advance when this will >> happen, so I can contact him and make arrangements. It still requires >> a short ladder to make the hop from the neighbor's roof to ours, but >> we have that.
>> Contact me directly if this is something you're interested in.
>> Chris
>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:57 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: >> > Some other time, then.
>> > Creighton
>> >> Judicious use of a hammer, then.
>> >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:08 PM, John Hicks <johnl...@gulfbridge.com> >> >> wrote:
>> >>> ** >> >>> Or through one of the skylights...
>> >>> On 04/09/2012 06:33 PM, Brad Luyster wrote:
>> >>> Not without judicious use of a sawzall, there isn't.
>> >>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:58 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
>> >>>> So there is no access to the roof from inside the space's building? >> I >> >>>> don't own an extension ladder that tall, and don't think that I'd be >> >>>> inclined to use it anyway.
>> >>>> Creighton
>> >>>> > I can't be there tonight, but FYI you'll need a ladder to get on >> our >> >>>> roof.
>> >>>> > Our neighboring building had it's roof redone with a rubber >> membrane >> >>>> > that can easily be damaged. Because of this, no one is allowed to >> use >> >>>> > the neighbor's roof to access our own roof. This is out of respect >> >>>> for >> >>>> > the neighbor, to avoid damaging his roof. We've had one situation >> in >> >>>> > the past because of using his roof without asking, and we don't >> want >> >>>> > another one. It's possible we can contact him for permission / >> >>>> > schedule a time to get up there in a monitored way...
>> >>>> > ...but basically what I'm saying is make sure you've got a ladder >> >>>> that >> >>>> > you can use to access the roof from the alleyway first.
>> >>>> > Chris
>> >>>> > On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 3:33 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> >> wrote: >> >>>> >> I'm not a paying member, so I don't have access to the building >> >>>> unless >> >>>> >> someone is going to be there. I want to get to the roof, or other >> >>>> >> possible antenna sight, in order to be able to judge how much work >> >>>> is >> >>>> >> going to be involved in setting up a mesh-net node there and what >> >>>> kind >> >>>> >> of >> >>>> >> other sites could be considered for another node. I doubt that I >> >>>> could >> >>>> >> see my own garage roof from there, but maybe. Anybody have a pair >> >>>> of >> >>>> >> binoculars handy?
> Would some kind of cantilevered platform be worth looking at hacking > together with our building guy's permission?
> Sturdy L brackets into the masonry (if that will work on our instance) and > a platform that could be stepped out onto without making any contact at all > with the neighbors roof....
> (Besides platform install and maintenance). Not talking about something > huge.. couple of boards wide.. (from our wall.).. with perhaps some > stirrups/etc to secure a ladder base.
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Jeff Johnson <jeffjohn...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> If plywood was put down over any place on the roof that was going to be >> stood on or hold a ladder, it should be okay, if the neighbor grants >> consent.
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Christopher Cprek <paxtita...@gmail.com >> > wrote:
>>> Having a long ladder for direct roof access is the best option, but I >>> can still make arrangements with the neighbor to get access to the >>> roof if that's desired. I just need to know in advance when this will >>> happen, so I can contact him and make arrangements. It still requires >>> a short ladder to make the hop from the neighbor's roof to ours, but >>> we have that.
>>> Contact me directly if this is something you're interested in.
>>> Chris
>>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:57 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: >>> > Some other time, then.
>>> > Creighton
>>> >> Judicious use of a hammer, then.
>>> >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:08 PM, John Hicks <johnl...@gulfbridge.com> >>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> ** >>> >>> Or through one of the skylights...
>>> >>> On 04/09/2012 06:33 PM, Brad Luyster wrote:
>>> >>> Not without judicious use of a sawzall, there isn't.
>>> >>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:58 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
>>> >>>> So there is no access to the roof from inside the space's building? >>> I >>> >>>> don't own an extension ladder that tall, and don't think that I'd be >>> >>>> inclined to use it anyway.
>>> >>>> Creighton
>>> >>>> > I can't be there tonight, but FYI you'll need a ladder to get on >>> our >>> >>>> roof.
>>> >>>> > Our neighboring building had it's roof redone with a rubber >>> membrane >>> >>>> > that can easily be damaged. Because of this, no one is allowed to >>> use >>> >>>> > the neighbor's roof to access our own roof. This is out of respect >>> >>>> for >>> >>>> > the neighbor, to avoid damaging his roof. We've had one situation >>> in >>> >>>> > the past because of using his roof without asking, and we don't >>> want >>> >>>> > another one. It's possible we can contact him for permission / >>> >>>> > schedule a time to get up there in a monitored way...
>>> >>>> > ...but basically what I'm saying is make sure you've got a ladder >>> >>>> that >>> >>>> > you can use to access the roof from the alleyway first.
>>> >>>> > Chris
>>> >>>> > On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 3:33 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >> I'm not a paying member, so I don't have access to the building >>> >>>> unless >>> >>>> >> someone is going to be there. I want to get to the roof, or >>> other >>> >>>> >> possible antenna sight, in order to be able to judge how much >>> work >>> >>>> is >>> >>>> >> going to be involved in setting up a mesh-net node there and what >>> >>>> kind >>> >>>> >> of >>> >>>> >> other sites could be considered for another node. I doubt that I >>> >>>> could >>> >>>> >> see my own garage roof from there, but maybe. Anybody have a >>> pair >>> >>>> of >>> >>>> >> binoculars handy?
Not sure what type of parapet if any is on the roof but the best thing might be a non-permanent fixture so we don't have to deal w/ any issues about that. Either use a 'drape over' removable hook-top ladder to just stuff out the windw and hook to the roof on the odd time we need up there, or if there's nothing like that, install a set of permenently affixed mounted that a removable ladder can hook onto (this can be as simple as a set of vertical posts drilled and mounted to whatever parapet we can access right over the window). That way there's no issues w/ a permenent ladder (since we like to watch for code problems) plus it's not going to touch the neighboring buildings or any shared walls at all. I've used them for ladders on construction sites. http://www.hiloclimbers.com/parapet_clamps.html http://www.hiloclimbers.com/re_hooks.html We used pompier ladders in scouts during competitions so using one for a single level climb isn't a big deal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQKHc6xgk5o
Actually, if we had the materials, an access point could be built with pressure treated lumber for a normal access to the roof from the closed off alley, provided we don't have individuals using it as a hangout space.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Jeff Johnson <jeffjohn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Or a ladder from the top of the stairs in the closed off alley way. That > thing must be pretty close to the top.
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 2:49 PM, James Copeland <copeland.jam...@gmail.com > > wrote:
>> Would some kind of cantilevered platform be worth looking at hacking >> together with our building guy's permission?
>> Sturdy L brackets into the masonry (if that will work on our instance) >> and a platform that could be stepped out onto without making any contact at >> all with the neighbors roof....
>> (Besides platform install and maintenance). Not talking about something >> huge.. couple of boards wide.. (from our wall.).. with perhaps some >> stirrups/etc to secure a ladder base.
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Jeff Johnson <jeffjohn...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> If plywood was put down over any place on the roof that was going to be >>> stood on or hold a ladder, it should be okay, if the neighbor grants >>> consent.
>>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Christopher Cprek < >>> paxtita...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Having a long ladder for direct roof access is the best option, but I >>>> can still make arrangements with the neighbor to get access to the >>>> roof if that's desired. I just need to know in advance when this will >>>> happen, so I can contact him and make arrangements. It still requires >>>> a short ladder to make the hop from the neighbor's roof to ours, but >>>> we have that.
>>>> Contact me directly if this is something you're interested in.
>>>> Chris
>>>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:57 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: >>>> > Some other time, then.
>>>> > Creighton
>>>> >> Judicious use of a hammer, then.
>>>> >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:08 PM, John Hicks <johnl...@gulfbridge.com> >>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>> ** >>>> >>> Or through one of the skylights...
>>>> >>> On 04/09/2012 06:33 PM, Brad Luyster wrote:
>>>> >>> Not without judicious use of a sawzall, there isn't.
>>>> >>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:58 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
>>>> >>>> So there is no access to the roof from inside the space's >>>> building? I >>>> >>>> don't own an extension ladder that tall, and don't think that I'd >>>> be >>>> >>>> inclined to use it anyway.
>>>> >>>> Creighton
>>>> >>>> > I can't be there tonight, but FYI you'll need a ladder to get on >>>> our >>>> >>>> roof.
>>>> >>>> > Our neighboring building had it's roof redone with a rubber >>>> membrane >>>> >>>> > that can easily be damaged. Because of this, no one is allowed >>>> to use >>>> >>>> > the neighbor's roof to access our own roof. This is out of >>>> respect >>>> >>>> for >>>> >>>> > the neighbor, to avoid damaging his roof. We've had one >>>> situation in >>>> >>>> > the past because of using his roof without asking, and we don't >>>> want >>>> >>>> > another one. It's possible we can contact him for permission / >>>> >>>> > schedule a time to get up there in a monitored way...
>>>> >>>> > ...but basically what I'm saying is make sure you've got a ladder >>>> >>>> that >>>> >>>> > you can use to access the roof from the alleyway first.
>>>> >>>> > Chris
>>>> >>>> > On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 3:33 PM, <creig...@sdf.lonestar.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >> I'm not a paying member, so I don't have access to the building >>>> >>>> unless >>>> >>>> >> someone is going to be there. I want to get to the roof, or >>>> other >>>> >>>> >> possible antenna sight, in order to be able to judge how much >>>> work >>>> >>>> is >>>> >>>> >> going to be involved in setting up a mesh-net node there and >>>> what >>>> >>>> kind >>>> >>>> >> of >>>> >>>> >> other sites could be considered for another node. I doubt that >>>> I >>>> >>>> could >>>> >>>> >> see my own garage roof from there, but maybe. Anybody have a >>>> pair >>>> >>>> of >>>> >>>> >> binoculars handy?
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Sean McPherson <sean...@gmail.com> wrote: > Not sure what type of parapet if any is on the roof but the best thing > might be a non-permanent fixture so we don't have to deal w/ any issues > about that. Either use a 'drape over' removable hook-top ladder to just > stuff out the windw and hook to the roof on the odd time we need up there, > or if there's nothing like that, install a set of permenently affixed > mounted that a removable ladder can hook onto (this can be as simple as a > set of vertical posts drilled and mounted to whatever parapet we can access > right over the window). That way there's no issues w/ a permenent ladder > (since we like to watch for code problems) plus it's not going to touch the > neighboring buildings or any shared walls at all. I've used them for > ladders on construction sites. > http://www.hiloclimbers.com/parapet_clamps.html > http://www.hiloclimbers.com/re_hooks.html We used pompier ladders in > scouts during competitions so using one for a single level climb isn't a > big deal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQKHc6xgk5o
If there's a sturdy parapet and we can't do the access from the stairs, an overhook ladder might be the best bet then. Still a bit more work than asking permission from neighbor and putting down a piece of wood and using an extension ladder, but not much more :D
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Jeff Johnson <jeffjohn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Note, the building owner does not want any holes drilled into the > building.
If we had unlimited resources, a nice option would be to build a small deck area (to level out the ground) just outside the grill area (alley). If built with a covered roof (so people could grill out of the rain), the covered roof could serve as a location to put a ladder to get the remaining 10-12 feet to the roof when needed, since access would be near the back of the building where the roof is at the lowest point.
This wouldn't be a short term solution for Creighton tho. What would be is to use my 23 foot extension ladder secured to the bed of a pickup truck (to give it another 3 feet).
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Sean McPherson <sean...@gmail.com> wrote: > If there's a sturdy parapet and we can't do the access from the stairs, an > overhook ladder might be the best bet then. Still a bit more work than > asking permission from neighbor and putting down a piece of wood and using > an extension ladder, but not much more :D
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Jeff Johnson <jeffjohn...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> Note, the building owner does not want any holes drilled into the >> building.
