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Yandex.RU

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Mar 15, 2008, 12:58:22 PM3/15/08
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Hello!

I have only ONE question.
Where is packages-6.2-release? I have FreeBSD 6.2, and tuning it.
Where I can download packages for my freebsd version?

I wait for reply!

defenderx, with love :)

Glen Barber

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Mar 15, 2008, 3:26:36 PM3/15/08
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Yandex.RU said:
>
> I have only ONE question.
> Where is packages-6.2-release? I have FreeBSD 6.2, and tuning it.
> Where I can download packages for my freebsd version?
>

That is two questions. packages-6.2-release is gone, because
6.2-RELEASE has passed its EOL.

For 6.X packages, you have a choice of packages-6.3-release or
packages-6-stable.


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Mar 15, 2008, 3:25:20 PM3/15/08
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>I have only ONE question.
>Where is packages-6.2-release? I have FreeBSD 6.2, and tuning it.
>Where I can download packages for my freebsd version?

Thats a great question, and it appears that the 6.2-release packages
repository has been removed. Looking in ftp.freebsd.org I see 5-stable,
6-stable, 6.3-release, 7-stable, 7.0-release, and 8-current. There is
no 6.2-release directory so "pkg_add -r" returns an error for any package
that you try to load. Very aggravating.

Apparently the release team is only providing packages for the most
recent streams. I'd like to know why that is, and also why they insist
on listing "packages" under "ports". The documentation makes it very
clear there is a difference between the two. Why anyone on the release
team thinks it's intuitive to look for a ready-to-go "package" under
a "ports" directory which has been defined by documentation as something
that needs to be compiled, is a mystery to simpletons like myself.


Glen Barber

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Mar 15, 2008, 3:43:41 PM3/15/08
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I forgot to add -- you can change the default ftp server for pkg_add:
setenv PACKAGESITE ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/{YOUR_ARCH}/{FREEBSD_VERSION}/Latest

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Tore Lund

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Mar 15, 2008, 5:38:51 PM3/15/08
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>> I have only ONE question.
>> Where is packages-6.2-release? I have FreeBSD 6.2, and tuning it.
>> Where I can download packages for my freebsd version?
>
> Thats a great question, and it appears that the 6.2-release packages
> repository has been removed. Looking in ftp.freebsd.org I see 5-stable,
> 6-stable, 6.3-release, 7-stable, 7.0-release, and 8-current. There is
> no 6.2-release directory so "pkg_add -r" returns an error for any package
> that you try to load. Very aggravating.

Aggravating indeed. The real question here is why the OP does not
upgrade to 6.3-RELEASE.

I don't see a problem with not providing disk space for such a specific
set of packages, and especially when a number of them can be found on
the ISOs for the release in question.
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Tore

Kris Kennaway

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Mar 15, 2008, 6:42:02 PM3/15/08
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Disk space is not infinite. ftp-archive has old releases. packages are
built from ports and are part of the ports collection.

Kris

Jonathan Wallace

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Mar 15, 2008, 9:51:04 PM3/15/08
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I think lack of disk space is a poor excuse for an organization
distributing an OS. This isn't the 90's. 500GB drives are $99.00 at
newegg and that's enough to hold the OS, ports, and packages for 50
releases (at least). Surely the decision not to keep older releases
where pkg_add() can find them by default, could not have been made
based upon lack of disk space.

There's no documentation about ftp-archive here
http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html, here
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/packages-using.html,
or even if I go to www.freebsd.org and try to use the search tool to
find any reference to "ftp archive". That's great that you (as a
FreeBSD contributor) know where to find the old release packages, and
great that I do now as well. But it really sucks that I had to spend
this much time finding that information when it could be documented in
the handbook or some other obvious location. Certainly, it would seem,
one of the reasons Jordan wrote pkg_add() was for ease of use in regards
to finding and installing packages. That work is just as certainly
trivialized when people at FreeBSD make bad decisions that cause the
command not to work "out of the box" and further causes a user to jump
through hoops to discover how to use the command for releases that are
hardly more than a few years old.

There should be a packages link at the same level of the ports directory.
Keep the ports directory structure as you want, but it doesn't hurt to
add a link and make the distinction more obvious in the ftp location.
The documentation makes the distinction and the ftp tree should as well.

Kris Kennaway

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Mar 15, 2008, 10:19:26 PM3/15/08
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Jonathan Wallace wrote:
> I think lack of disk space is a poor excuse for an organization
> distributing an OS. This isn't the 90's. 500GB drives are $99.00 at
> newegg and that's enough to hold the OS, ports, and packages for 50
> releases (at least). Surely the decision not to keep older releases
> where pkg_add() can find them by default, could not have been made
> based upon lack of disk space.

Uh, we don't store the main FTP site on crappy lowest common denominator
hardware (thank god). New shelves for netapp filers are slightly more
than $99 (but if you'd like to donate us one that would be nice). Also,
you're way off on your size estimates. A release is currently about
60-80GB, and that is more space than is free on the filer. Which is why
6.2 had to be moved off-site.

> There's no documentation about ftp-archive here
> http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html, here
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/packages-using.html,
> or even if I go to www.freebsd.org and try to use the search tool to
> find any reference to "ftp archive". That's great that you (as a
> FreeBSD contributor) know where to find the old release packages, and
> great that I do now as well. But it really sucks that I had to spend
> this much time finding that information when it could be documented in
> the handbook or some other obvious location. Certainly, it would seem,
> one of the reasons Jordan wrote pkg_add() was for ease of use in regards
> to finding and installing packages. That work is just as certainly
> trivialized when people at FreeBSD make bad decisions that cause the
> command not to work "out of the box" and further causes a user to jump
> through hoops to discover how to use the command for releases that are
> hardly more than a few years old.

As part of the freebsd community, feel free to send-pr the request.

Kris

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