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Kelly Peet  
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 More options Nov 14 2012, 11:24 am
From: Kelly Peet <ke...@academicbenchmarks.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:24:12 -0500
Local: Wed, Nov 14 2012 11:24 am
Subject: Re: Convention for Encoding Grade Level in LRMI

Mike,
comments in line.

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Mike Collett <m...@schemeta.com> wrote:
> Hi Kelly
> And these often change when a curriculum changes, for example new
> concepts, deprecated items or new structures.
> Also there are multilinguality requirements that mean that translations
> can come online frequently.

good points. in addition to curriculum, academic standards change in
various ways on a variety of schedules.

> A question is: where are mappings and such changes managed?
> To put all this in the metadata is asking for trouble and, as you imply,
> gives rise to massive legacy issues.

put to the industry, i suspect the general answer to your question is some
brand of content management system (CMS).   specifically, for Academic
Benchmarks, we interact with a variety of CMS platforms based on our
client's specific choices, while internally keeping track of content by
tagging to a multi-faceted conceptual framework (cognitive, concept,
constraint, limit, etc), which is, in turn, mapped to standards, allowing
us to escape the legacy issues that inevitably arise with onboarding
fleeting metadata, as you suggest.  standards alignment is a byproduct of
our technique, and i might suggest a bit of a red herring in the discussion
at hand.

> Our experience is that you try to keep the metadata to a minimum (unique
> ids plus perhaps one preferred label) and deal with the mappings,
> translations, navigation structures and change control via a separate
> service.

exactly our approach.  minimum viable description for the intended
audience, robust, real-time resolution services.

thanks for chiming in,
kelly

> Cheers
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> On 14 Nov 2012, at 14:47, Kelly Peet <ke...@academicbenchmarks.com> wrote:

> A slight tangent to the point, more of a question to the original thinkers
> of LRMI's design, regarding Jim's point #2 as it relates to scalability:

> Presuming a piece of content being tagged is applicable to many
> authorities (for argument sake, let's stay with 50 states for now), it
> would seem necessary to cite 50 URIs to assert and meet the requirement of
> "all applicable learning standard items".  My mind runs in a variety of
> directions:

> - what about content that applies to more than one learning standard per
> authority (or to a portion of a learning standard)?

> - what is the ultimate size of the payload making such assertions?

> - did i read earlier that hidden-only markup may not be considered by
> search engines, so all these assertions must appear on the page?

> - i hear Common Core pointed as one possible antidote to 50 states, but
> wonder about subjects besides Math and Language Arts, as well as the
> numerous varieties of state-specific Common Core standards (possibly making
> the presumptive 50 more like 100).

> I completely understand if this line of questioning is quelled on this
> thread.  Just thinking one step down the road how to support LRMI while
> also being keenly attuned to the volume and scalability issues and how to
> address them.  We have a couple million content items tagged tightly to
> hundreds of authorities, more than 400M assertions across 10 subject
> areas.  Looking for pearls of wisdom.
> kelly

> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Jim Goodell <
> james.donald.good...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Good mediation Joshua, and good points Stuart, Kelley, and Doug (glad to
>> have you join the discussion).  I'll concede that multiple options are best
>> for LRMI.

>>  ...maybe it is a matter of communications to inform publishers that
>> their resource will be more discoverable if they tag by enumerating each
>> applicable grade level rather than (or in addition to) the proxy for a
>> grade range such as "elementary", and even more discoverable if also tagged
>> with standards, and even more discoverable if aligned with more granular
>> micro standards.   ...or maybe simple/concrete messaging: for best
>> discoverability tag with both 1) the list of grade levels AND 2) alignment
>> to all applicable learning standard items.   Perhaps this messaging can be
>> part of whatever is published as the convention for grade level alignment.

>> -jim


 
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