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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 04:02:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vijendra <vijendra.i...@gmail.com>
To: lrmi@googlegroups.com
Cc: LRMI TWG <lrmi-twg@googlegroups.com>
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Subject: Re: LRMI 1.0 Examples Listing
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Hi,

I have just recently started on lrmi and there are a certain queries that 
keep coming up. Coincidently, *Monty* asks a major share of mine and I am 
very glad that most of the queries are answered very quickly.

I am currently working on a template page that will allow users(course 
managers, instructors...) to markup the data with ease. Though an easy 
task, I still have not got hold on certain things. I have some queries, 
forgive me if they are too trivial - 

Firstly, it would be great if someone could give a correct usage of tag *
educationalAlignment*. It seems none of the 3 examples contain a detailed 
use of this tag and its other properties.

Secondly, the tag *typicalAgeRange* would lose some effect when we start 
marking-up University courses. Like the course page from MIT OCW by Peter, 
undergraduates have been mentioned with 18-21. How about if we could use a 
tag on lines of *prerequisites*? University courses have that property 
wherein you cannot opt for a course unless you have already done another.
Similarly, even at school level, you cannot do a learning resource, like 
multiplication, if you have not done a prerequisite, maybe say arithmetic 
addition. Or do integration without having done differentiation. Leaning 
has to follow an order. We could exploit that order to get us a better 
markup.

Thirdly, about differences in marking-up a full *course* and a resource 
level(a *lecture or lesson*). Thankfully, *Peter* is already working on it. 
That a course is simply a collection of resources put together - is a 
course considered a learning resource? 

Lastly, *maybe a little too trivial*, but are we supposed to stick to the 
tags(Properties) given provided by lrmi or we can use the vocabulary used 
in schema.org? The examples have used properties such as 'author' for 
'creator' and 'datePublished' for 'created' etc(as in Peter's example).

regards
Vijendra

On Saturday, June 9, 2012 8:53:52 PM UTC+5:30, Greg Grossmeier wrote:
>
> Hello, 
>
> If you come across or create any new LRMI example marked up content, 
> please either reply to this email on thread or send me a message. I have 
> started a collection at: 
>   http://www.lrmi.net/the-specification/examples 
>
> Best, 
>
> Greg 
>
> -- 
> Greg Grossmeier 
> Education Technology & Policy Coordinator 
> twitter: @g_gerg / identi.ca: @greg / skype: greg.grossmeier 
>

On Saturday, June 9, 2012 8:53:52 PM UTC+5:30, Greg Grossmeier wrote:
>
> Hello, 
>
> If you come across or create any new LRMI example marked up content, 
> please either reply to this email on thread or send me a message. I have 
> started a collection at: 
>   http://www.lrmi.net/the-specification/examples 
>
> Best, 
>
> Greg 
>
> -- 
> Greg Grossmeier 
> Education Technology & Policy Coordinator 
> twitter: @g_gerg / identi.ca: @greg / skype: greg.grossmeier 
>

On Saturday, June 9, 2012 8:53:52 PM UTC+5:30, Greg Grossmeier wrote:
>
> Hello, 
>
> If you come across or create any new LRMI example marked up content, 
> please either reply to this email on thread or send me a message. I have 
> started a collection at: 
>   http://www.lrmi.net/the-specification/examples 
>
> Best, 
>
> Greg 
>
> -- 
> Greg Grossmeier 
> Education Technology & Policy Coordinator 
> twitter: @g_gerg / identi.ca: @greg / skype: greg.grossmeier 
>

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<span style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;">Hi,</span><br style=3D"fon=
t-family: verdana,sans-serif;"><br style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif=
;"><span style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;">I have just recently st=
arted on lrmi and there are a certain queries that keep coming up. Coincide=
ntly, </span><i style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;">Monty</i><span s=
tyle=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;"> asks a major share of mine and I=
 am very glad that most of the queries are answered very quickly.</span><br=
 style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;"><br style=3D"font-family: verda=
na,sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;">I am curre=
ntly working on a template page that will allow users(course managers, inst=
ructors...) to markup the data with ease. Though an easy task, I still have=
 not got hold on certain things. I have some queries, forgive me if they ar=
e too trivial - </span><br style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;"><br s=
tyle=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-family: verda=
na,sans-serif;">Firstly, it would be great if someone could give a correct =
usage of tag </span><b style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;">education=
alAlignment</b><span style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;">. It seems =
none of the 3 examples contain a detailed use of this tag and its other pro=
perties.</span><br style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;"><br style=3D"=
font-family: verdana,sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-=
serif;">Secondly, the tag </span><b style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-seri=
f;">typicalAgeRange</b><span style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;"> wo=
uld lose some effect when we start marking-up University courses. Like the =
course page from MIT OCW by Peter, undergraduates have been mentioned with =
18-21. How about if we could use a tag on lines of </span><b style=3D"font-=
family: verdana,sans-serif;">prerequisites</b><span style=3D"font-family: v=
erdana,sans-serif;">? University courses have that property wherein you can=
not opt for a course unless you have already done another.</span><br style=
=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-family: verdana,s=
ans-serif;">Similarly, even at school level, you cannot do a learning resou=
rce, like multiplication, if you have not done a prerequisite, maybe say ar=
ithmetic addition. Or do integration without having done differentiation. L=
eaning has to follow an order. We could exploit that order to get us a bett=
er markup.</span><br style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;"><br style=
=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-family: verdana,s=
ans-serif;">Thirdly, about differences in marking-up a full </span><i style=
=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;">course</i><span style=3D"font-family:=
 verdana,sans-serif;"> and a resource level(a </span><i style=3D"font-famil=
y: verdana,sans-serif;">lecture or lesson</i><span style=3D"font-family: ve=
rdana,sans-serif;">). Thankfully, </span><i style=3D"font-family: verdana,s=
ans-serif;">Peter</i><span style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;"> is a=
lready working on it. </span><br style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;"=
><span style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;">That a course is simply a=
 collection of resources put together - is a course considered a learning r=
esource? </span><br style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;"><br style=3D=
"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans=
-serif;">Lastly, </span><i style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;">maybe=
 a little too trivial</i><span style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;">,=
 but are we supposed to stick to the tags(Properties) given provided by lrm=
i or we can use the vocabulary used in schema.org? The examples have used p=
roperties such as 'author' for 'creator' and 'datePublished' for 'created' =
etc(as in Peter's example).</span><br style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-se=
rif;"><br style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily: verdana,sans-serif;">regards</span><br style=3D"font-family: verdana,=
sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-family: verdana,sans-serif;">Vijendra</spa=
n><br><br>On Saturday, June 9, 2012 8:53:52 PM UTC+5:30, Greg Grossmeier wr=
ote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex=
;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">Hello,
<br>
<br>If you come across or create any new LRMI example marked up content,
<br>please either reply to this email on thread or send me a message. I hav=
e
<br>started a collection at:
<br>&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://www.lrmi.net/the-specification/examples" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://www.lrmi.net/the-<wbr>specification/examples</a>
<br>
<br>Best,
<br>
<br>Greg
<br>
<br>--=20
<br>Greg Grossmeier
<br>Education Technology &amp; Policy Coordinator
<br>twitter: @g_gerg / <a href=3D"http://identi.ca" target=3D"_blank">ident=
i.ca</a>: @greg / skype: greg.grossmeier
<br></blockquote><br>On Saturday, June 9, 2012 8:53:52 PM UTC+5:30, Greg Gr=
ossmeier wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-=
left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">Hello,
<br>
<br>If you come across or create any new LRMI example marked up content,
<br>please either reply to this email on thread or send me a message. I hav=
e
<br>started a collection at:
<br>&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://www.lrmi.net/the-specification/examples" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://www.lrmi.net/the-<wbr>specification/examples</a>
<br>
<br>Best,
<br>
<br>Greg
<br>
<br>--=20
<br>Greg Grossmeier
<br>Education Technology &amp; Policy Coordinator
<br>twitter: @g_gerg / <a href=3D"http://identi.ca" target=3D"_blank">ident=
i.ca</a>: @greg / skype: greg.grossmeier
<br></blockquote><br>On Saturday, June 9, 2012 8:53:52 PM UTC+5:30, Greg Gr=
ossmeier wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-=
left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">Hello,
<br>
<br>If you come across or create any new LRMI example marked up content,
<br>please either reply to this email on thread or send me a message. I hav=
e
<br>started a collection at:
<br>&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://www.lrmi.net/the-specification/examples" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://www.lrmi.net/the-<wbr>specification/examples</a>
<br>
<br>Best,
<br>
<br>Greg
<br>
<br>--=20
<br>Greg Grossmeier
<br>Education Technology &amp; Policy Coordinator
<br>twitter: @g_gerg / <a href=3D"http://identi.ca" target=3D"_blank">ident=
i.ca</a>: @greg / skype: greg.grossmeier
<br></blockquote>
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