On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Joshua Marks <jma
...@curriki.org> wrote:
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> I think we are in agreement, _*somewhat*_. The educationaAuthority for
> the framework should be CCSSO/NGA Center for the CCSS framework, regardless
> of the URL provider for that framework. Jurisdiction might be an more
> descriptive name then educationalAuthority. Or perhaps even more accurate
> for this use is something like frameworkAuthority or frameworkPublisher as
> an Organization. CCSSO does not really fit your definition of jurisdiction,
> does it? The adopters of the standard are the jurisdiction, which are the
> states and districts applying the CCSS. Hmmm. ****
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> *From:* lrmi@googlegroups.com [mailto:lrmi@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf
> Of *Stuart Sutton
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:59 AM
> *To:* lrmi@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Adding tags from another ontology****
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> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Joshua Marks <jma...@curriki.org> wrote:
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> This is where the proposed educationalAuthority as an organization entity
> -> http://schema.org/Organization is still needed in the spec as an
> attribute of the educaitonalAlignment or perhaps the educaitonalFramework.
> I had thought you added it. This would add CCSSO/NGA center to the
> alignment and together the TargetName/GUID is sufficient to match the
> aligned skill even if the TargetURL is not from the CCSSO but rat the
> equivalent URL form AB (
> http://www.academicbenchmarks.org/search/?standard_id=20962&topic_id=...)
> , ASN (http://asn.jesandco.org/resources/S1143480) or any other look-up
> reference hosted by some system for the Common Core. ****
> Joshua, I may be misinterpreting what you are saying, so correct me if I
> am. I disagree *somewhat* with how you have framed this. While I
> certainly agree that educational-authority-as-organization would be good
> and useful information to have available, I'd assert that the "authority"
> in both cases you note would be CCSSO. The "authority" for the *content*of a JES&Co. data representation of a CCSSO assertion is not JES&Co. In
> the ASN, this notion of organizational authority is what is call the
> "jurisdiction" or "jurisdictional authority" defined as "A legal,
> quasi-legal, organizational or institutional domain of the entity mandating
> the use of the achievement standard within a given context--e.g.,
> California, Singapore, NCTM." CCSSO is the one who has jurisdictional
> authority--it is the one who authored the content of the node and exercises
> authority over that content. In this regard, I would say that
> organizations such as JES&Co., Academic Benchmarks and EdGate are data
> intermediaries that neither exercise nor assert "authority" with regard to
> the CCSSO-authored content of the data they mediate. I would even go so
> far as to assert that CCSSO is the final authority as to whether the
> JES&Co. representation is an accurate representation of its creation.
> Now, if you want to know who the data mediator is (as opposed to
> promulgator :-) that is bringing that node of CCSSO data to you or your
> system, that's a different matter. But it is not a matter of "educational
> authority"...I would not think.
> Stuart
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