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Steven Veeneman

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May 11, 2012, 4:32:42 PM5/11/12
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I don't know how it happened but for the last couple of decades I've been distracted by concerns other than those related to Kate Bush.

Things changed this weekend when at a conference somewhere I read the words of the Gayatri - a translation which reminded me of the prayer that Lily begins with.  Wow, that was  a memory.

The next day I was sitting near decent Wifi and heard that prayer from a cell phone two ladies were viewing just ten feet away.  They looked at me a little strange as I, a sixtyish old guy, stood up and stammered "Excuse me, but is that, is that, uhh, is that..."

"Kate Bush?" one of them offered.

"Right, Kate Bush!"  Suddenly we were all friends and looking at the youtube video together.

That did it.  I began re-discovering in a way that gave my heart confusing mixes of nostalgia, intrigue and relief.

Two days ago I did a google search for my last name "Veeneman" and rec.music.gaffa.  I found posts of mine to that old newsgroup dated 1990.

Cripes, was it that long ago.  Of course it was, when email addresses were bangpaths, and dns was still a bit in the future, not to mention browsers and youtube.  As I see and this message confirms, the LH list is alive and well.

The reason I am writing in today is to enquire if anyone remembers Vicki - my memory says Vicki Mapes.  Is she still around?  Vicki if you read this then I say hello.

As I say hello to you all I suppose, so Hello from a fan who strayed a bit.

Steve

Douglas Alan

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May 15, 2012, 3:54:56 PM5/15/12
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On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Steven Veeneman <shv...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I don't know how it happened but for the last couple of decades I've been distracted by concerns other than those related to Kate Bush.

That just will not do! But it's great to have you back now.
 
Two days ago I did a google search for my last name "Veeneman" and rec.music.gaffa.  I found posts of mine to that old newsgroup dated 1990.

Cripes, was it that long ago.

Time is very strange. When I think about things like that it always feels like stuff that happened in another lifetime. A lifetime which occurred just last week or so.
 
The reason I am writing in today is to enquire if anyone remembers Vicki - my memory says Vicki Mapes.  Is she still around?  Vicki if you read this then I say hello.

We certainly wouldn't forget Vicki! She pops in every now and then to say hello, but not all that often as of late.

Did you see that Kate won the South Bank award, as an upset over Adele and consequently made her first public appearance for quite some time?
 
|>ouglas

pDale

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May 15, 2012, 3:58:07 PM5/15/12
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On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Steven Veeneman <shv...@yahoo.com> wrote:
The reason I am writing in today is to enquire if anyone remembers Vicki - my memory says Vicki Mapes.  Is she still around?  Vicki if you read this then I say hello.

I don't think she's around here much anymore. You've missed some history!

As I say hello to you all I suppose, so Hello from a fan who strayed a bit.

A fellow fan is always welcome back. (Or at least they're never barred! (-_^) )

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Don Williams

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May 15, 2012, 4:00:18 PM5/15/12
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You didn't miss much...except Jade. She lived through the wild and
dangerous '80s.

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Douglas Alan

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May 15, 2012, 4:00:53 PM5/15/12
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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:58 PM, pDale <pda...@gmail.com> wrote:
A fellow fan is always welcome back. (Or at least they're never barred! (-_^) )

Is that a wink? Or a raised Vulcan eyebrow?

|>ouglas

pDale

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May 15, 2012, 4:16:05 PM5/15/12
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To be sure, it is a wink. (^_^)

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pDale

Douglas Alan

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May 15, 2012, 4:38:08 PM5/15/12
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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 4:16 PM, pDale <pda...@gmail.com> wrote:
Is that a wink? Or a raised Vulcan eyebrow?

To be sure, it is a wink. (^_^)

Now you've got two raised Vulcan eyebrows! I'm sorry if I tweaked you.
 
|>ouglas

Richard Messum

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May 15, 2012, 4:51:59 PM5/15/12
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Nice to hear from you again, Steven. 

Vickie Mapes is now Vickie Williams and is happily running the Happy Rhodes fan group on Facebook. http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/happyrhodesfans/

Richard



On 11/05/2012 4:32 PM, Steven Veeneman wrote:
I don't know how it happened but for the last couple of decades I've been distracted by concerns other than those related to Kate Bush.

<snip>

Cripes, was it that long ago.  Of course it was, when email addresses were bangpaths, and dns was still a bit in the future, not to mention browsers and youtube.  As I see and this message confirms, the LH list is alive and well.

The reason I am writing in today is to enquire if anyone remembers Vicki - my memory says Vicki Mapes.  Is she still around?  Vicki if you read this then I say hello.

As I say hello to you all I suppose, so Hello from a fan who strayed a bit.

Steve

pDale

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May 15, 2012, 5:08:10 PM5/15/12
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So what if I use my daughter's Japan-style emoticons. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoticon#Japanese_style I'm getting too old to keep turning my head to the side. (I guess I put the wink on the wrong side; I was improvising.)

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pDale

Vickie

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May 16, 2012, 8:24:56 AM5/16/12
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Hello Steve! Thank you, Doug, Uli and Richard for
thinking of me. Of course I would see this right before
I have to go to work. I'm busy and happy (and still
Happy-besotted) and doing well. My biggest obsession
nowadays (non-music) is movies. I saw 366 movies
in the theater last year (329 the year before) because
the crazy runs deep with me, and watching movies
is generally more socially-acceptable than thousands of
other things I could be doing. So nice to see you.

Vickie

Vickie

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May 16, 2012, 8:43:16 AM5/16/12
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I know this is off-topic, but there are so many smart
and connected Kate fans out there I can't resist.

Any Engineers out there? In the "It Never Hurts To
Ask Because You Never Know, Right?" Dept., does
anyone know any US/Canada-based Engineers
(all types including Verification Engineers), Design Architects,
Layout Designers, or Corporate types who work at Apple,
Google, Cisco, Oracle, IBM, Samsung, Bose, Boston Scientific,
Fairchild Semiconductor, Sandisk, a United Technology
Corp company (including Otis Elevator and Pratt Whitney),
Dell, BAE, Agilent, Eaton and other companies? Must work or
be involved with with EAD tools. I recruit for paid focus groups
and research studies and I'm looking for such to take part in
a PAID study. It's an ONLINE study and they'd be paid $200.

I know that sounds weird, but that's what I do every day,
look for people who want to get paid for their opinions.
We're not selling anything or headhunting, opinions only.
If you do (or are!) call 888-863-4353 and ask for CHERYL.
(that's the main study name so you/they wouldn't ask for
me). The study is next week. More info upon request
but I have to go to work now and won't be able to answer
until this evening because I don't check mail during the day.

Steve_V

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May 16, 2012, 9:37:39 AM5/16/12
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On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:54:56 PM UTC-5, Douglas Alan wrote:

Did you see that Kate won the South Bank award, as an upset over Adele and consequently made her first public appearance for quite some time?
 
|>ouglas


I could not believe my fortune at discovering that video as soon as I moved my gaze to all things KaTe!  Ah, what time has done to us all, but to discover that not only is she hard at work doing what she loves, she's appreciated publicly!  Very heartwarming that.  Seeing her family with her was fun too!

Steve 

ttu...@aol.com

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May 16, 2012, 9:51:08 AM5/16/12
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...if you consider Terry Gilliam family...



Steve_V

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May 17, 2012, 6:55:59 AM5/17/12
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Hmm.  I was thinking of her kid, whose voice I'd heard on the Deeper Understanding version.  I'm assuming that it was him.  Come to think of it though, I'd consider Terry Gilliam family in a broader sense, and it was just as nice to see.  When I first saw the clip though, I'd not recognized him.

Mikael Lännqvist

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May 17, 2012, 10:03:54 AM5/17/12
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From:  Vickie

 ...  watching movies
is generally more socially-acceptable than thousands of
other things I could be doing. So nice to see you. 
Please do tell us more about what you could be doing, sounds interesting... ;)
 
Anyway, I will always be grateful for how you insisted I avoid any and all
trailers for The Matrix. Recalling Johnny Mnemonics in the beginning gave
me the wonderfully wrong idea of what was going on, which made the
plunge into the rabbit-hole so much more awesome.
 
As for going to the movies in general, you beat me tenfold.
 


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Music is like vintage wine. It keeps getting better over the years,
if those who made it knew how to make it right...
____________________________________________________Mikael_Lännqvist_

Douglas Alan

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May 17, 2012, 2:01:11 PM5/17/12
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On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Vickie <xenus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Any Engineers out there? In the "It Never Hurts To
Ask Because You Never Know, Right?" Dept., does
anyone know any US/Canada-based Engineers

I'm an engineer, but I assume that software engineers don't count? I've never even heard of the term EAD, unless that's Canadian for CAD. Heavy use of CAD tools are pretty out of vogue in the software engineering field these days.

|>ouglas

Neal Mulvenna

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May 17, 2012, 2:50:09 PM5/17/12
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I worked for IBM for many, many years, and one thing I learned about myself is that I absolutely HATE acronyms. Hardly anyone bothers to explain up front the meaning they have in mind for the abbreviation they are using. And almost all acronyms can stand for several different subjects, sometimes too closely rated to rule them out.
Seems like the most common usage (of some 60+ choices) of EAD regarding tools is Encoded Archival Description, but then why in hell would one need be an engineer to play with XML/DTD/XSLT?
Regards,
Neal Mulvenna

Don Williams

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May 17, 2012, 5:37:57 PM5/17/12
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What does HATE stand for?

Douglas Alan

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May 17, 2012, 5:45:36 PM5/17/12
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On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Don Williams <donwi...@gmail.com> wrote:
What does HATE stand for?

I asked a fellow named Don once, and he said "Healthy Alternative To Empathy".

|>ouglas

Richard Messum

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May 17, 2012, 6:06:14 PM5/17/12
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"Hackers Against Tyranny Everywhere"?

Richard

Vickie

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May 17, 2012, 7:22:00 PM5/17/12
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*hangs head in shame* I screwed up by posting too quickly, rushing to go
to work. I meant EDA (to confirm, Electronic Design Automation) tools.
It was a typo, not intentional. The study is "about design challenges and the
use of EDA tools to solve those challenges". Thanks for replying, we're looking for:

Design engineers, Project Leaders, CAD engineers, CAD managers,
CAD Directors, Systems engineers, Systems architects, Engineering managers,
Directors, VPs of engineering, IC Packaging engineers, Layout designers,
Manufacturing engineers, Assembly engineers, Process engineers, Verification
engineers & Corporate management. The participants must have more than
casual involvement with EDA tools, and must be involved in one or more
of the following: IC or ASIC Design, System-on-chip design, System design.
There's more criteria to quality but those are some of the basics.

The participants also have to work at one of 88 specific EDA-using companies,
but I'm not going to list them, the list is too long. They don't have to work at the
head office location, as long as they're based in the US or Canada. It is an internet
study, an online focus group, so it doesn't matter where they are at the time of
the study.

It's crazy. Last week I recruited 12 engineers and research scientists for a
completely different study, had no problems at all, it was a breeze, easy as
pie. I got participants from Microsoft, the US Navy, several universities,
aerospace and defense companies, I was a goddess at work. This week,
I can't get anyone to return my calls. Desperate times call for desperate
measures, hence my posting here. I love my job. It's fun to give money
away, but people have to want it, and trust us (and, well, qualify for the
study).

We do sometimes have studies for software engineers, really, all kinds of
other professions, ranging from teachers to Oncologists to Human Resources
Benefits managers to small business owners to Financial Planners to Optometrists
to bus drivers to Nurses to farmers and on and on. We recruit for hundreds of
studies  every year. Call that number and ask to join the database if getting paid
for giving your opinions appeals to you. Some studies are in-person focus
groups, some are telephone interviews, some are internet (or internet/phone)
interviews. All pay, all are legit. 

Thanks for reading and not being too upset that I brought my work into
the group.

V


From: Douglas Alan <darkw...@gmail.com>

Vickie

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May 17, 2012, 7:34:12 PM5/17/12
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From: Mikael Lännqvist <trill...@bredband.net>


        >>From:  Vickie
        >> ...  watching movies
        >>is generally more socially-acceptable than thousands of
        >>other things I could be doing. So nice to see you.

>    Please do tell us more about what you could be doing, sounds interesting... ;)

Well, I could be a crack whore, a pickpocket, a smuggler, a drunk
driver, a spammer, a pedophile or a lawyer. Luckily my obsessive
personality traits were always directed toward harmless activities,
mainly Kate Bush, Happy Rhodes, and movies.

Thanks for telling me I helped you with The Matrix viewing. That
made me smile.

V

Douglas Alan

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May 17, 2012, 8:17:00 PM5/17/12
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On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Vickie <xenus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Luckily my obsessive
personality traits were always directed toward harmless activities,
mainly Kate Bush, Happy Rhodes, and movies.

Now all you have to do is add Marina & the Diamonds to the list of obsessions, and you'll be perfect! Hey, Marina even has a song about obsessions, called, well, "Obsessions":

The video for it is pretty interesting too.
 
|>ouglas

yellowmatter

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May 18, 2012, 12:43:56 PM5/18/12
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Damn! No video for Bubblegum Bitch yet.
I wonder if this song will be heard on North American radio without being censored?
Sadly, I doubt it.

...Jim

Douglas Alan

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May 18, 2012, 12:55:29 PM5/18/12
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On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 12:43 PM, yellowmatter <yellow...@gmail.com> wrote re Marina:
Damn! No video for Bubblegum Bitch yet.
I wonder if this song will be heard on North American radio without being censored?
Sadly, I doubt it.

I haven't heard any plans to release this song as a single. The next single is going to be "Power and Control". I'm sure there will be future singles to come. I think that "Bubblegum Bitch" would make a great single, but it probably won't be.

Marina did release a new video today, though. It's great! Very strange and David Lynch-ey:


|>ouglas

yellowmatter

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May 18, 2012, 1:19:19 PM5/18/12
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Some of the comments on it are quite hilarious.

... Jim

ps: Adele's 21 is awful. I've really tried to like it, but I keep thinking she's a mellower version of Janis Joplin.

yellowmatter

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May 18, 2012, 1:26:11 PM5/18/12
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On 2012-05-18, at 12:55 PM, Douglas Alan wrote:

>
> I haven't heard any plans to release this song as a single. The next single is going to be "Power and Control". I'm sure there will be future singles to come. I think that "Bubblegum Bitch" would make a great single, but it probably won't be.

Homewrecker would make a great single.

...Jim

Douglas Alan

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May 18, 2012, 1:34:38 PM5/18/12
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On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 1:19 PM, yellowmatter <yellow...@gmail.com> wrote:

Marina did release a new video today, though. It's great! Very strange and David Lynch-ey:


|>ouglas


Some of the comments on it are quite hilarious.

My favorite is, "I love the choreography".

|>ouglas

angela

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May 18, 2012, 5:01:30 PM5/18/12
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Just to make it clear to everyone I do not resemble Deamondi-pavlova
in any shape or form this test was designed to make the partcipant
fail. And come to terms with the alter ego as a true representation
of a dancer who hides their true identity in shame. Perhaps thats why
in the red shoes she is so mad.

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