Monterey Historics
Glenn Stephens
year. It was great to run with a bunch of Elevens, a Fifteen, and
other cars from the period. Here are some pictures from the race and a
video of a couple of laps.
People in cars:
Silver 42 Series I - Brian MacEachern
Silver 52 Series I - Ed Nigro
Red 41 Series I - Glenn Stephens
Green 38 Series II LeMans car - Bruce Miller
Yellow Lola - Chris Orosco
Black Lola - Stirling Moss
Black Dolphin - unknown
Porsche 550 - unknown
http://traqmate.com/Events/Monterey09/racestart1.jpg
http://traqmate.com/Events/Monterey09/sidebyside.jpg
http://traqmate.com/Events/Monterey09/corkscrewslide.jpg
http://traqmate.com/Events/Monterey09/bruce.jpg
http://traqmate.com/Events/Monterey09/stirling.jpg
http://traqmate.com/Events/Monterey09/brianandporsche.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJytGuEL1uM
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Peter Yeomans
Some very nice shots-interesting rear shot of the 42 car appears to have
flared guards at the front and rear-also runs without the rear pressure
reducing holes-I think I also seen a shot of the chassis frame of this car
some time back in HLR and it has also been modified with additional chassis
rails- have you had a close look at it?
On another matter could you tell me what type of brake pads you are using
please-I am still trying to find out if I should vary my pads due to lock up
issues at the rear= as previously posted-the suppliers (Carbotech) have not
answered my query on the subject.
Regards Peter Yeomans
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Gearhead
was available when it needed a body many years ago. He does have some
small spacers between the DeDion and the rear hubs that increase the
track a bit so he might have flared the bodywork for clearance. I do
not believe that he has any extra bracing in the rear.
Regarding brakes, when I got my car it had 20 year old Ferrodo pads
which worked ok but took a few stops to heat up. For the last 3 years
I have been running
rear KFP 5505-P42A
front KFP 5504-P42A
pads that I get from Truechoice (http://www.truechoice.com) in Ohio.
The backing plates are a shiny gold color. They are easy to bed, stop
well, and are easy on my old chrome-plated steel rotors that came with
the car. We have to run Dunlop 204s so the braking limitation is the
tire.
Neither Brian nor I run with any pressure-reducing holes in the rear
end. Never had a problem and both cars are fast.
Glenn
Roger Sieling
I also run the KFP pads on the front of my S2, but still have some DS11s at the rear, because when I first went to all KFPs, there was too much rear brake, and my Eleven has not been modified to have pedal bias adjustment. I started to modifiy it a few years back, then left it alone, perhaps in responce to this brake issue. I sort of like having a bit more rear brake and as I trail brake into a turn, eventually the rear breaks loose and at that instant, I'm off the brakes and back on the power, sort of like a hand brake turn in rallying, it initiates the drift. I think I have the gold pads on the Eleven and the same KFP but blue on the 20/22. Because the formula car has adjustable bias, I set it up more or less the same, w/ just a tad too much rear brake. I'm afraid I'm not more help on the Eleven set-up, since I've last run it at Sebring 2006 and before that 2001. But the single seater is sooo much fun.
4DTN does have vents in the back of the body and VFT and I looked at old pics of 4DTN in 1958 and they were there late in the season. They also show up in McGreevy's photos of the EE blue car in 1960 and 61.
I don't remember if I ever asked Keith Hall if he remembered cutting them and why.
Roger Sieling
Peter Yeomans
Nice to hear from you Roger-hope all is well-I think I read some time back in an old HLR magazine that the vent cut outs come from original times in events with high speed sections the rears started to fly off and this was the Lotus solution-your brake comment is I guess what I am faced with-i.e. running a lower friction type in the rear- the pull up power is much greater with these ceramic pads combined with new cast iron rotors in lieu of the steel type- previously I used a carbon metallic type pads – ahhh, lots of fun experimenting!!!
Have attached shot from the top section of Mt Panorama at Bathurst just before the run back down-a very daunting circuit-billiard table smooth providing you stay on the black stuff with concrete walls to remind you to do just that!
Stay well
Yeoey
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Gearhead
appear in the post?
Regarding rear vents, I never had a problem with the rears but the car
has a dzus fastener on the leading edge in the center as well as the
spring latches. I would think that once the rear pressurizes, it would
effectively block more air from entering. While this would harm the
brake and diff cooling, it would probably be good for top speed.
Glenn
On Aug 22, 2:12 am, "Peter Yeomans" <ye...@three.com.au> wrote:
> Nice to hear from you Roger-hope all is well-I think I read some time back
> in an old HLR magazine that the vent cut outs come from original times in
> events with high speed sections the rears started to fly off and this was
> the Lotus solution-your brake comment is I guess what I am faced with-i.e.
> running a lower friction type in the rear- the pull up power is much greater
> with these ceramic pads combined with new cast iron rotors in lieu of the
> 1985KViewDownload
Peter Yeomans
I have enclosed a rare shot single float bowl from car 267 which was sold
here at an auction late last year for just short of A140,000-the car had
never been fully restored but was in quite OK condition
Yeoey
mike imerman
This is to Peter Ross, but because of the knowledge base here, it may cause lively discus ion. If I have entered "new Subject" incorrectly (which I suspect I have), please show me.
Peter, on July 19, 2007, you posted on the Mille Miglia. In all of your research (I have never had the pleasure of reading your article), and with all of your knowledge did you find either Gegor Grant's S2 or Bruno Ferrari's (S1-S2?) chassis numbers?
In Graham Capel's book "Lotus-the Historic Years" on page 121 the list of the fist S2's were there, complete with chassis numbers. But next the the Mille car it just says "Team Lotus".
Was this a Collin Chapman plan (assembled car; no number?).
Were you able to track the movement of either of these two cars afterward? Do they exist today?
On a related note, I really wanted to communicate with you further back in '07; unfortunately I have not been on line until now.
I have an account of the Mille that may not have come over the pond to you.
Irwin Stambler - "Great Moments In Racing"
Published by Scholastic Magazine
1969; USA
I must have got this from a class book sale when I was about 10 years old!
I doubt it would have added anything to your knowledge, although Grant's name was mentioned several times.
Mike
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Peter Ross
Thank you very much for the photos, they are excellent.
To my great surprise and delight I have had a number of people send me photos of this
event, so please do not be offended if I don't use them all.
I'm so glad you got past before the end of the video!
Yours sincerely,
Peter Ross HLR Magazine Editor, The Birches, Cuckoo Mills, FALMOUTH, Cornwall TR11
4HZ
01326-317789 Fax (from UK only) 0871-231-7299 pe...@historiclotusregister.co.uk
www.historiclotusregister.co.uk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Stephens" <gaste...@track-systems.com>
To: "Lotus History" <lotus-...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 6:32 PM
Subject: Monterey Historics
>
> I had the pleasure of competing at the Monterey Historic Races this
> year. It was great to run with a bunch of Elevens, a Fifteen, and
> other cars from the period. Here are some pictures from the race and a
> video of a couple of laps.
>
> People in cars:
> Silver 42 Series I - Brian MacEachern
> Silver 52 Series I - Ed Nigro
> Red 41 Series I - Glenn Stephens
> Black Lola - Stirling Moss
> Black Dolphin - unknown
> Porsche 550 - unknown
>
> http://traqmate.com/Events/Monterey09/racestart1.jpg
>
> http://traqmate.com/Events/Monterey09/sidebyside.jpg
>
> http://traqmate.com/Events/Monterey09/corkscrewslide.jpg
>
> http://traqmate.com/Events/Monterey09/bruce.jpg
>
> http://traqmate.com/Events/Monterey09/stirling.jpg
>
> http://traqmate.com/Events/Monterey09/brianandporsche.jpg
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJytGuEL1uM
> >
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The Gregor Grant car was #308, but the number of the Bruno Ferrari car is not known.
The subsequent history of both cars is covered by the article in "Historic Lotus" #50
for Autumn 2007, and you can buy a back issue and pay for it online if you go to
www.historiclotusregister.co.uk
Yours sincerely,
Peter Ross HLR Magazine Editor, The Birches, Cuckoo Mills, FALMOUTH, Cornwall TR11
4HZ
01326-317789 Fax (from UK only) 0871-231-7299 pe...@historiclotusregister.co.uk
www.historiclotusregister.co.uk
----- Original Message -----
From: "mike imerman" <mike.i...@att.net>
To: <lotus-...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:55 AM
Subject: New Subject: Mille Miglia
This is to Peter Ross, but because of the knowledge base here, it may cause lively
discus ion. If I have entered "new Subject" incorrectly (which I suspect I have),
please show me.
Peter, on July 19, 2007, you posted on the Mille Miglia. In all of your research (I
have never had the pleasure of reading your article), and with all of your knowledge
did you find either Gregor Grant's S2 or Bruno Ferrari's (S1-S2?) chassis numbers?
In Graham Capel's book "Lotus-the Historic Years" on page 121 the list of the first
S2's were there, complete with chassis numbers. But next to the Mille car it just
says "Team Lotus".
Was this a Collin Chapman plan (assembled car; no number?).
Were you able to track the movement of either of these two cars afterward? Do they
exist today?
On a related note, I really wanted to communicate with you further back in '07;
unfortunately I have not been on line until now.
I have an account of the Mille that may not have come over the pond to you.
Irwin Stambler - "Great Moments In Racing"
Published by Scholastic Magazine
1969; USA
I must have got this from a class book sale when I was about 10 years old!
I doubt it would have added anything to your knowledge, although Grant's name was
mentioned several times.
Mike
Jeff Snook
Maybe next time!
Who was in the dark car you passed going into the corkscrew?
Jeff Snook
http://www.snooksdreamcars.com
-----Original Message-----
From: lotus-...@googlegroups.com [mailto:lotus-...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Glenn Stephens
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:32 PM
To: Lotus History
06:04:00
Gearhead
We missed you. Brian and I started on the front row but I quickly
learned there is a big difference between outright speed in qualifying
and knowing how to race at a track. That was Don Spaethe in a mid-
engined 1962 Dolphin America. He is a California native and must race
at Laguna all the time.
He can really drive, the car is very good, and that is the strongest
1100cc climax I have ever seen. Even when I got off a corner well, I
didn't start reeling him in until the end of the straights. He must
have a had the preferred 4.22 diff whereas I was running a 3.90. I was
really surprised by how slick the track was in the afternoon and he
slipped by me on the first lap. Of course it was a matter of pride not
to be beaten by a smaller displacement car so I had to run him down.
Unfortunately Brian MacEachern got punted by an over-optimistic
maneuver by Chris Orosco down in turn 2. Nothing serious but a good
dent in the bodywork and a broken taillight and it spun him out. It
didn't matter because none of us had anything for the 6 cylinder
Corvair-powered Pirhana.
Glenn
On Aug 23, 2:12 pm, "Jeff Snook" <jsn...@wcnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Glen, nice driving at Monterey. Sorry I was not able to join you guys.
> Maybe next time!
>
> Who was in the dark car you passed going into the corkscrew?
>
boben...@netscape.net
From: Gearhead <gaste...@track-systems.com>
To: Lotus History <lotus-...@googlegroups.com>
Stewart Smith
Gearhead
because some of the Dolphins came with them. It is definitely strong.
Of course the entry list also shows the Piranha with a 2000cc Corvair
engine. The earliest Corvairs were 140 cu in = 2.3 liters by my
calculations.
Hmmm....