Lotus Super Seven at Pikes Peak 1966

[Peter Ross]

I just got this message from Steph in France.

I had a look on the Artemis Images website
[http://www.artemisimages.com/gallery.aspx?photomode=3&categoryid=5858] where I found
it under "Pikes Peak" in the "1960s". It is Image Name: ppih0496.jpg and the
caption is: "Dan Morgan driving his Lotus Ford to a second place finish in 1966 with
a time of 13:9.8. This photo is part of the Pikes Peak International Hill Climb
archive. "

Can anyone tell us more? What capacity is a "cobra" engine?

Peter Ross
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Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:51 AM
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Hi
First excuse my bad English, but I'm French.
I'm really fan of Lotus Seven. I'm driving a 1996 Caterham.
I've found this picture :see attached file

It was in the sixties during a Pikes Peak High Climb. It was driving by Dan Morgan.
In this car there is a cobra engine.
Does anyone know something on this car or car like this one ?
Thanks

[John Donohoe]

I presume that would be the 'Cobra' engine as installed in the AC Cobra -- i.e., a 260 or 289 V8 or a 427 V8... based on the physical sizes of engine and chassis, I would tend to think the 289 would be the more likely possibility...

The descriptions here bear out the hypothesis... http://www.fordcobraengines.com/cobra_engine%20history.htm 

The 427 was new in 1965 and "The 289 was an innovative engine for its time: small, lightweight"

Cheers,

John Donohoe

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[Eric Perrin]

Hi Peter,

Nice picture....from memory, generally Cobra engines were originally 4.2
litres on the prototypes then 4.7litre (289 ci) for the production of
the 'standard leaf sprung Cobras'. Later 7 litre (427 ci) for the coil
spring cars.

Kind regards
Eric

Peter Ross a écrit :

[Pace...@aol.com]

There is a photo of it in the Nov. 1966 issue of Road & Track on p.67. Unfortunately, no mention of it in the accompanying article. Morgan finished second in the over-2-liter class with a 13:59.8 run. First was the usual champ Ak Miller in a Devin special. Third was a Corvette followed by two ancient Kurtis sports cars. By 1966 Cobra engines were 289" (only a handful of early Cobras had the 260). Judging from the air cleaner sticking through the top of the hood, the Lotus engine had a single 4-barrel carb.
Harold Pace

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Can anyone tell us more?  What capacity is a "cobra" engine?

Hi Peter,

The engine would be a Ford V8, as prepared for the Cobra sports cars of Carroll Shelby from 1963 forward.

Bob

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As memory serves me, they had at least two different capacity engines,
the largest being the 427. They took a british built AC aluminum body
and stuffed it with an American drivetrain. Wikipedia has a bit of
info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_Cobra

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[Constant Wagner]

Hi folks,

Just to illustrate that one needs to be very careful with Wikipedia type
information:
The link attached opens a page where three cars are pictured: none of these
is a genuine AC Cobra.

The Gulf livered car is a replica offered for sale in Germany in 2003. I
know this car as it had been offered to me at that time.

The red car is at best an AC Ace body with maybe something Cobra under the
bonnet. Cobras were never built on AC Ace or AC Ace Bristol basis but early
cars were built on AC Ace Zephyr basis. This car had an altogether different
nose and the resulting Cobra had extended lips to accommodate for wider
tires than the Ace.

The third dark blue car can be easily recognized as a replica, just have a
closer look at the wheels.

Just for info.

Constant
HLR member & ACOC member
Luxembourg

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