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Eric Hammond

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Nov 28, 2007, 9:20:01 PM11/28/07
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Thank you Amish for creating this Google Group. Hopefully, we can
start building a bit of community here which can help us work together
effectively at the startup weekend itself. I don't know if it's
"cheating", but I think it would be nice to have some sense of who is
participating instead of showing up to a room with a bunch of complete
strangers.

My name is Eric and I have been building web technology for early
stage startups for a bit over a decade (Citysearch.com, Stamps.com,
Rent.com, ThisNext.com, CampusExplorer.com) along with a few personal
projects here and there on the side.

I'm currently signed up in the "architect" role, but will have no
trouble pitching in with just about any part of the technology side of
things from systems to application to database to coordination.

Technologies I'm enjoying the most these days for development include:
Linux (Ubuntu), Perl, MySQL, Apache, Amazon EC2/S3, svn, Postfix,
Perlbal, MogileFS, Munin, and the list goes on and on...

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Eric Hammond
http://www.anvilon.com/

Gavin

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Nov 29, 2007, 9:55:24 AM11/29/07
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Hi all. I'm a front end developer working on Picasa Web Albums at
Google in Santa Monica. I can do the gnarliest possible Javascript and
C++, and a fair bit of Java, Python, and Rails. I haven't spent any
time with PHP, though it doesn't seem particularly mysterious, and my
life will remain complete if I never write another line of Perl.
(i.e., Eric: Please don't make me do Perl, as I'll still be tweaking
my 1-line script full of regex on Sunday night :-) ).

I'm glad to see that Eric is already working with the Amazon EC2/S3
stack, as I think that's the best deployment story for something as
compressed as a startup weekend, and I've used it not at all.

I'm definitely interested in something built to work with emerging
social network platforms such as Facebook, OpenSocial and Meebo. Meebo
in particular offers an easy way to build applications with a real-
time collaboration component, and their user base is growing at a good
clip.

Eric Hammond

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Dec 3, 2007, 5:09:27 AM12/3/07
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On Nov 29, 6:55 am, Gavin <gavin.dough...@gmail.com> wrote:
> (i.e., Eric: Please don't make me do Perl, as I'll still be [...]

In a team of volunteers I don't think anybody is going to "make"
anybody else do anything, especially when it's only for a weekend. I
expect we're going to have a fun time working together to figure out
how to collaborate with a mishmash of skills in different technologies
and at different experience levels.

Part of me wishes that the base programming language had been chosen
before people signed up so that folks could opt out if they really
hate that language. But, perhaps that would just spoil some of the
fun that we're going to have with this challenge.

I personally wouldn't object if we had a discussion ahead of time
finding out the target language, templating system, and the like that
many of us would be comfortable using. Unfortunately, it will be
difficult to build any sort of firm consensus online, especially with
the vast majority of the team apparently not even aware of this forum
yet.

I also expect that we're not going to be sticklers for titles. Just
because somebody signed up for "server side dev" shouldn't mean that
they can't help out with HTML/sysadmin/db tasks if there is work to be
done in those areas.

Amish

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Dec 3, 2007, 1:29:05 PM12/3/07
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Eric - right on all counts.

I can set up a time to have all the dev folks get on a call prior to
the weekend if there is enough interest.

Re: titles. It was just so we could get enough expertise to actually
execute on this - so that we don't end up with the same skill set for
everyone. It's absolutely ok for people to jump around and help out as
they see fit.

JohnP

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Dec 3, 2007, 1:43:35 PM12/3/07
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On Dec 3, 2:09 am, Eric Hammond <ehamm...@thinksome.com> wrote:
> I personally wouldn't object if we had a discussion ahead of time
> finding out the target language, templating system, and the like that
> many of us would be comfortable using.

This would be a great idea. That way we can have the toolsets
ready, and also give someone a chance to opt-out if they feel
they aren't at the level needed to participate.

Gavin Doughtie

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Dec 3, 2007, 7:30:15 PM12/3/07
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At a minimum, what would be nice to have running before the weekend starts would be:

source control
deployment server
IM/Collaboration tools

I have strong opinions about Javascript frameworks, but after that it drops off rapidly except for the "I like rails but haven't used it a lot." vote :-)

Also, at the SF weekend, Andrew advised the dev team that none of the projects that tried to use Java had been able to launch. We *could* change that, but only if we have a couple of really serious local experts who can framework the dev system ahead of time. My best guess for technology that will be successful in the short timeframe is PHP or Rails.

In my ideal world, there's a "hello world" website we can all sync to on Friday night, do a deployment with, and start coding against.

Eric: are you still at thisnext? I could walk over to 3rd street for some coffee this week and talk to you about it.

Amish

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Dec 3, 2007, 7:55:37 PM12/3/07
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If you guys don't know about this yet - check out assembla.com - it's
an integrated set of subversion, trac, IM (similar to 37signal's
campfire) and a whole lot more of collaboration tools and free up to
500 MB (i think). They are great and I can personally vouch for their
stability.



On Dec 3, 4:30 pm, "Gavin Doughtie" <gavin.dough...@gmail.com> wrote:
> At a minimum, what would be nice to have running before the weekend starts
> would be:
>
> source control
> deployment server
> IM/Collaboration tools
>
> I have strong opinions about Javascript frameworks, but after that it drops
> off rapidly except for the "I like rails but haven't used it a lot." vote
> :-)
>
> Also, at the SF weekend, Andrew advised the dev team that none of the
> projects that tried to use Java had been able to launch. We *could* change
> that, but only if we have a couple of really serious local experts who can
> framework the dev system ahead of time. My best guess for technology that
> will be successful in the short timeframe is PHP or Rails.
>
> In my ideal world, there's a "hello world" website we can all sync to on
> Friday night, do a deployment with, and start coding against.
>
> Eric: are you still at thisnext? I could walk over to 3rd street for some
> coffee this week and talk to you about it.
>

Eric Hammond

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Dec 3, 2007, 8:43:26 PM12/3/07
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Gavin:

I'm interested in Ruby on Rails, too, but I would recommend we only
tackle a platform that we have at least a few strong experts and a large
number of folks who are fairly familiar with it. We don't have time to
learn much new stuff or go hunting for solutions to too many platform
problems.

> In my ideal world, there's a "hello world" website we can all sync to on
> Friday night, do a deployment with, and start coding against.

Certainly wouldn't hurt to set up with the understanding that the team
that night might head in a different direction once we're all in the
same room.

> Eric: are you still at thisnext? I could walk over to 3rd street for
> some coffee this week and talk to you about it.

I'm working in East Santa Monica (and at home in Arcadia) but I do eat
lunch on the 3rd Street Promenade every Thursday :)

http://ThursdayLunch.com

Anybody on this list is welcome to join.

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Eric Hammond
eham...@thinksome.com

Gavin

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Dec 4, 2007, 10:17:21 AM12/4/07
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Ugh, your commute is as bad as mine! (I'm in Pasadena). I'll see you
at lunch Thursday. (What restaurant?).
> ehamm...@thinksome.com

Eric Hammond

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Dec 4, 2007, 1:53:26 PM12/4/07
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Gavin wrote:
> I'll see you at lunch Thursday. (What restaurant?).

We meet at the same place at the same time, then pick a restaurant.

Read the web page for details (and sign up for the mailing list if you'd
like).

http://ThursdayLunch.com

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Eric Hammond
eham...@thinksome.com
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JohnP

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Dec 4, 2007, 2:45:17 PM12/4/07
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On Dec 4, 10:53 am, Eric Hammond <ehamm...@thinksome.com> wrote:
> Gavin wrote:
> > I'll see you at lunch Thursday. (What restaurant?).
>
> We meet at the same place at the same time, then pick a restaurant.
>
> Read the web page for details (and sign up for the mailing list if you'd
> like).
>
> http://ThursdayLunch.com

If we need a meeting in addition to the lunch, and folks don't
mind the freeway dance to Woodland Hills, I can host a gathering,
maybe Saturday night?

Or we can use this internet thing and get on IRC for a meeting. :)

-John
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